The next Eric Cantona
Joao Felix
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He doesn't. He's just inconsistent. He's often better in high pressure games actually.
And I'd argue mentality is part of talent, but whatever. Don't mind me being pedantic
Because Jorge Mendes told them to. *Ordered*
Please no. He’s not enigmatic, he’s just not very good. Technically gifted but lacks decisiveness and mental fortitude.
Another one of those must have "generational talents".
A weak player with no fixed position on the field. Is not an advanced midfielder in the three, is not a #10, doesn't score enough to be a SS, doesn't have the pace to be a wide player.
He should drop down a couple of levels, ala Sancho, and try to rebuild his career in a comfortable environment. He is still young. Doing the rounds at the big clubs on loans isn't doing him any favors.
A weak player with no fixed position on the field. Is not an advanced midfielder in the three, is not a #10, doesn't score enough to be a SS, doesn't have the pace to be a wide player.
He should drop down a couple of levels, ala Sancho, and try to rebuild his career in a comfortable environment. He is still young. Doing the rounds at the big clubs on loans isn't doing him any favors.
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Insane to think Benfica got €120m for him. They do this alot. They sell the world that they have a generational player in their team every year and almost every season clubs give them hefty sums of money. This year it’s Joao Neves. Absolute leeches.
Just checked, the amounts of duds Benfica have sold to the other clubs for huge sums of money in recent years is astonishing. It’s almost criminal. Joao felix, Gonçalo Ramos, Enzo Fernandes, Darwin Nunez, Renato Sanches, Nelson semedo, Andre Gomes, Lazar Markovic etc. They should be called out for this insanity in the meetings whenever they want to sell a player. This year they have projected Neves as next big thing and want a king’s ransom.
And the clubs keep buying those duds for insane money.
They don't put a gun to the buying club's executives head to buy their players. If clubs stupidly keep buying these players at inflated prices than the inquisition need to happen at their end, not Benfica's. It is not criminal to stick to their lofty valuations if they know these stupid clubs are going to pony up. I think racket is at the agent's end. How many of these are Jose Mende's players? Still, it's the buying club that need to walk away instead of falling for it again and again.
When I said Insanity I didn’t mean you mate. Relax.
I don't know if it's them pushing it or other clubs getting overexcited at the next big Benfica wonderkid, but a lot of those players only had one good year for them. A couple only had six good months. Selling early seems to serve them well.
Just kidding
My bad. Didn't know you are a wannabe comedian.
feck Benfica!
On a serious note, I agree with a lot what you said.It's Jorge Mendes. It's all him. Most of those big moves were either to clubs he owns i.e. Benfica --> Atletico, or Benfica --> Valencia / clubs that trust him completely and want to mantain a good relationship with him and are willing to help him out - PSG, Barcelona / and a few of those are just stupid moves. Benfica/Mendes are very good at selling their players' talent, give Jorge what is Jorge's
Eh? They want him back ?
Yawn. Never cared for him
Distinct Sancho vibes in how he hates the club that actually owns him and thinks of him way higher than he actually is. Difference being, Atleti can actually sell him for a great price and we are unable to offload Sancho even for relative peanuts
Can they? Haven’t they been trying without luck for 2 years? Loaning him out anywhere possible in the hopes the loan club will buy him.
As far as I know, they have been trying to sell him for "insanely high" price, now they will probably sell him for a great price = at least double of what anybody wants to pay for Sancho
I am sure even we would have bought Felix if they sold him to us for ~70 millions, previous years, and it's not like Felix is on small wages
No one is paying that much for Felix, they’ll get him on loan again.
Chelsea are welcome to him , he will give you moments for sure , but just has not fulfilled his promise and certainly not what we need right now.
atletico are asking £42m for Felix. What a huge loss for them. Chelsea will snap him up and worst case Scenerio someone else will take a punt on him for a similar fee based on the hype around him alone. If he kicks on he’ll be worth so much more.
Looks to me like they are selling him for a Conor Gallagher, sounds a shite deal to me.
Probably Felix + money for Conor.
I would much rather have Joao back than rolling the dice on Samu.
Chelsea have had every player in Europe on their books at some point in the past three years - I guess it was inevitable that they'd have to start circling back for a second go with a few of them.
I need to know why the Alvarez and Gallagher are so dependent on Chelsea singing a player from Atleti. So what if the Omorodion deal has collapsed? Do they have a cash flow problem or something? Why must we buy a player from them?
All sensible questions. I think the answer is something akin to, "Chelsea gonna Chelsea".
I think it's due to FFP, atletico has to sell someone as that would make instant revenue while buying a player would count as amortization. Let's say they buy Alvarez for 95M with a 5 year contract, on their books that'll reflect as a 19M spend per year. So maybe Chelsea and Atletico are helping each other out with that Gallagher and someone deal.
But the way Romano frames it is like as if the Alvarez and Gallagher deals cannot be completed without an additional deal of a player going from Atleti to Chelsea.
Okay I guess that makes sense if they have FFP issues. I still don’t see why we have to do them a solid by signing a random player from them now that the player we wanted from them isn’t happening anymore.
I guess we can expect them to scratch our back in a future window when we need to offload Mudryk or something
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Jorge Mendes is crazy powerful
I get why it matters to Atleti’s move for Alvarez, but I thought the contracts were all signed for Gallagher?
If they weren’t, then it is simply a matter of Athleti needing Chelsea to buy someone for what they were going to spend on Omorodion or Atletico can’t afford their deals.
Gallagher has already been practicing with Atletico. Do they are going to need to clarify why we should care enough to buy Felix, unless it is a REALLY good price.
I know they wanted to back out of Gallagher deal for a better midfield option several days ago, but I thought that ship had settled. Unless maybe there is something in the contract tying us to buying Omorodion so they could fund Alvarez.
We had at least 4 teams that wanted Gallagher though. He sold for 25m less than Villa offered. What you describing sounds like Chelsea purely helping Madrid.
I get that THEY can’t afford their deals with Omorodion off. Now, they only agreed to sell us Omorodion based on the “good faith” that they were signing Alvarez. Is that contract signed? Are we obligated to be “nice “ and keep them from sinking?
I’m sure there are other teams that would buy Felix for 40m
oh really? wow, 42mil is low from what he was priced at, before
Maybe, but Felix clearly doesn't want to play there and Simeone hates his guts so...
Yes I think you're right it sounds more like an Atletico problem than Chelsea's problem. Most likely it was Chelsea rejecting Omorodion due to something they saw in the physical examen rather than the player rejecting Chelsea.
Now I don't think it's in the best interest of Chelsea to let the Gallagher deal get cancelled but I think you'll find easier to accommodate Gallagher than Atletico will find to accommodate Joao. It's been clear for years that Simeone doesn't like Joao and Joao don't want to play in Atletico as long as Simeone is there, yet they still haven't been able to sell him.
They've only found loans for him, the truth is Joao was once a promising player but that's been fading with the years. That big fee is the thing that keeps him in the loop but besides that he hasn't shown any signs of being a special player. Plus he's not so young anymore he's almost 25 already and hasn't had a single successful season, not with Atletico, Chelsea nor Barca. Also he hasn't been particularly impressive with Portugal either. I imagine he's on big wages due to the 130M transfer fee Atletico paid for him.
I don't think Chelsea would fancy paying even 40-50M for Joao, I don't think any team would as Atletico has been looking for it for two seasons and there hasn't been any takers.
How can Chelsea have all these players on their books and afford all these signings? Without impacting FFP, I don’t get it.