Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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I remember it was 15mil, Caf wanted 25 at least. Should have just taken it.
When will the mental gymnastics end? Always blaming the player. There are enough video evidence and quotes from both Ole and Moyes proving that Ole wanted him to stay and promised him a bigger role. Moyes didn't even bother with a serious bid after talking to Ole and finding out his plans for Lingard.
There is also plenty of evidence of the player wanting out, in fact the Caf keeps slagging Lingard as a West Ham supporter for constantly liking West Ham posts and whining about not playing. He also asked to go to Newcastle for a loan fee which we tried to extort Newcastle for with a relegation avoidance clause.
Face it, we had plenty of opportunities to bin Lingard and he was more than happy to cooperate, we just failed to take them for whatever reason. Those decision makers need to be investigated for gross incompetence.
If you have any understanding of how negotiations work then you will understand that we were not going to say to West Ham please come and take him and equally they were not going to open the discussions by saying that he was their top priority. It was perfectly clear a deal was there to be struck but Jesse wanted to stay, he could have submitted a transfer request but did not do so even though any halfwit could have seen he had no role in the team here.
We agreed a fee for a permanent transfer with Newcastle and he turned it down because he wanted to be a free agent at the end of the season. He wanted the loan to put himself in the shop window but frankly just as I don't blame him for looking after number one I also don't blame the club for not bending over to accommodate his wishes.
Im sure he will, but it will sum up why he should have not been a part of our club for the past 7 years.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...s/man-united-transfers-jesse-lingard-21597631
"Ole [Gunnar Solskjaer] made it clear to me quite early in the transfer window that he wanted to keep him.
"So I knew pretty early in the transfer window that he was staying at Manchester United. I had a private conversation with Ole who made it clear that he was staying."
That's a pretty interesting way of telling clubs to come get your players. You sound like some whiny broad telling your boyfriend that you do not want a birthday celebration this year due to covid, only to get super upset when he didn't organise a big surprise party inviting your best friends. It's like your boyfriend needs to have understanding how negotiations work and you mean you want a big party when you said you didn't want one.
How about start acting like a big professional club and tell the buyers and the player what you actually want to do?
https://dailynationtoday.com/jesse-...-payment-that-exists-with-deal-falling-apart/
Sure, Lingard has never submitted a transfer request despite meeting up with Ole and Ralf to talk about a transfer. He even goes to the media to tell everyone he wants a transfer which then you slate him for being a media leak.
You are making things up now. There is no permanent deal with Newcastle. Everything was agreed, we were just greedy bitches wanting to squeeze more money from Newcastle. Now that it has backfired on us, you want to place all the blame on the players. How professional eh?
Not making anything up, this is one of a number of threads around it if you want to go back and research what went on in the window, I am not going to do all of the work for you though unless you want to start paying me. On the subject of making things up, can you please point to where I have slated Jesse for being a media leak? I have not condemned Jesse for his actions I am just stating the fact that both last summer and again in January he could have forced his way out if he wanted to but he chose not to and so it is laughable that the player and his supporters are now whining about how badly he has been treated. He wanted to have his cake and eat it and these are the consequences when if he had just been mature enough to admit he was done here and West Ham was his best choice he would be playing in a European semi final this week and possibly back in the England squad.
Just admit you got this wrong and are being unfair to Lingard. There is no need to defend our piss poor management and organisation. Fact is he is easily moved on snd valued by other teams, he is better than what the haters give him credit for, but for whatever reason we can't get the best out of him and make him seem like a cancer.
In a nutshell you`ve provided the actual situation with Jesse. I`ve always liked him and his off-field antics were mild compared to the footballers with bad attitudes and behaviour for real. I haven`t seen games of his where he didn`t give a damn, in fact as we know his work-rate is one of the reasons he has done well on loan and one of the reasons he was valued by previous managers such as Ole.
He has always been proud to be a youth product just like Marcus and there is also a reason people like Scholesy have defended him in the media.
Shame he didnt get the chance to replicate the form he showed during his loan at West Ham, but he leaves with best wishes hope he goes on to have a good rest of his career
I hope this 'great youth product' who takes photos with the shirt of a top 4/6 rival in the middle of our season fecks off asap in the summer.
Crazy how stuff like this slides off Lingard and Rashford but with Pogba it's remembered for years.
All three need to go.
Crazy how stuff like this slides off Lingard and Rashford but with Pogba it's remembered for years.
All three need to go.
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I cant believe some comments here. He is a mediocre player who should have been booted out of the club 5 years ago.
Piss poor management and a mediocre player who is a bad influence are not mutually exclusive.
No farewell sub?
I'm glad he didn't get it. How can a player who posts pictures of himself in a west ham kit still be allowed to be here?
If reports are to believed, he's going to get another chance
Is it though? It could as easily be Rangnick deciding to not play him for the remaining games.
How come?
That's the sun's nonsense. He's done hereIf reports are to believed, he's going to get another chance
I hope so. Don't want to see him in a united shirt again.
I see it more as punishment.
My thoughts exactly.
Quick, someone convince him to stay!
Poor guy, didn't get his OT sending off
You would hope that after he told Scholes that things were a shit show, and then he was missing for 'personal reasons' against Chelsea would suggest he won't feature again
Same
He can't wait that long based on his chat with Scholes.
Exactly. The constant leaks from the dressing room is infuriating. At first, I dismissed it as journalists fiction but we must have the leakiest bunch of players in the PL (on the pitch and off).
Apparently Ragnick was asked about morale and he said something like "ask Lingard" referencing Scholes' comment so maybe he isn't playing him out of spite. Which is fine by me.
For sure, let's be honest, the amount of shit he's done over the years on social media and leaking stuff to the press he should have known it would come back to bite him in the arse one day
They were all given their send offs tonight apart from Lingard. Does make you wonder …..
F**k him, he deserves nothing.
I think the one's that have been professional and have tried to do what the manager has asked of them but physically can't do it anymore got their send off's. The toxic cnuts who've been talking to the press and causing issues haven't and won't.
Rangnick has restrained himself, if keane was in charge criminal charges would be getting drawn up as we speak.
Mental that these types of post are still being posted about Lingard in 2022. The fact he somehow survived here until 2022 is some feat though.
Why would I admit to that? I was not wrong and you have not provided any evidence to the contrary. A transfer request from the player and he would have been gone but he chose not to do that. There is plenty of evidence of the piss poor management of the team as you say and I am not defending the club but I am sick of the narrative that Jesse has been mistreated when that is far from the truth.
I feel your first sentence is less plausible than the second.
I loved how Scholes said "I hope Jesse won't mind me saying this but...". Jesus. Scholes won't be told many secrets from now on.
His brother was compensated handsomely in the form of millions of pounds over those 20 odd years.
Lingard probably has Scholes to thank for not getting a send-off.