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This isn’t about equivocation though. Beckham didn’t particularly get a great send off, does that mean I can’t believe Lingard deserved a little better? The fact you’ve clutched at Michael fecking Keane & Macheda says it all. Just admit you don’t like the guy & move on. Lingard has literally played in/scored in final wins & you think that warrants the same level of acknowledgment as a Macheda? Of course you don’t but this RedCaf so you’ve got to leave all good faith at the keyboard. If you can’t see the rather clear differences in their United careers then football isn’t for you lad.
When did I say every academy graduate should/does get a send off. I’m talking about a graduate that has scored in multiple cup finals for the club. As above other graduates with more accolades haven’t had send offs either, not sure why that matters in this case as multiple instances can be wrong.
Why dont you have a go at listing every United academy graduate who got a nice send off from OT before leaving.
I will openly admit I don't like the guy based on his actions and his performances for Manchester United, that isn't a secret and I'm sure I'm not the only one. So what if he's played and scored in finals? That doesn't entitle him to anything or anyone else for that matter, and Macheda arguably won United the league by the way, but you probably forgot that I guess.
faux outrage? I'm glad he's run his contract down otherwise we'd probably have him stinking up the place for years to come. He's full of shit, and that's the problem, nothing to do with offers and contracts. Ralf told a fan he was leaving, Lingard got upset and called the manager a liar on social media and yet look here, he's running his contract down. He create's drama out of nothing because he's terrified J Lingz will get some bad brand rep.Jesse and his brother are placing the blame on Rangnick so accuse me of being Ralf's brother if you must as it's him I'm sticking up forI always wondered which user was Jesse's brother
When did I say every academy graduate should/does get a send off. I’m talking about a graduate that has scored in multiple cup finals for the club. As above other graduates with more accolades haven’t had send offs either, not sure why that matters in this case as multiple instances can be wrong.
So instead of making things up, stick to the topic. We’re talking about Lingard, who despite his decline for us has actually at points delivered for the club in big moments. It ending for him [read Lingard not all graduates] in this way is disappointing.
‘Every academy graduate’
I think part of the accusation arises from Mata and Matic 'getting a send off'. But really they weren't getting a send off so much as getting selected ahead of Lingard and others. Deservedly. They were subbed off before the end because they were probably knackered which is fair enough and just a sensible use of players that age. It gave them an opportunity to say goodbye to Old Trafford. They weren't given it, they took it by being better than Lingard amongst others.
No ones changing the goalposts. I posted about Lingard & your response is ‘every academy graduate’ which is irrelevant. As per you’ve waded, in off topic & disingenuously. I mentioned Beckham in a previous post, keep up. You’re so addicted to conflict you’re repeating my own points at me.
Did Cavani earn his minutes?
Macheda didn’t win United the league lad, he scored a very important goal against Villa. If we’re at the point where you’re trying to equivocate their United careers let’s end it here cause there is no comparison. It’s like me saying cause Lingard scored in multiple cup finals he’s been better than Beckham.I will openly admit I don't like the guy based on his actions and his performances for Manchester United, that isn't a secret and I'm sure I'm not the only one. So what if he's played and scored in finals? That doesn't entitle him to anything or anyone else for that matter, and Macheda arguably won United the league by the way, but you probably forgot that I guess.
Respect between him and the club. I couldn't care less if Lingard has any respect for me, I don't have to work with him. His performances suggest he has very little respect for anyone to be honest, even himself.
For sure, and I agree with you, there are other things at play regarding Lingard and I’m sure he does have some claim when he says he’s not been treated entirely fairly, but what rubs myself and others the wrong way is how he and his brother go about making that known. The levels of immaturity and unprofessionalism are insane, there’s no where else he could get away with some of the things he’s done and said.
His performance alone against City should of been the end of his United career. Never have I seen a more despicable performance in all my years as a supporter. Come to think of it Rashford had a similar type performance and he can feck off as well. Why do academy players deserve recognition when they can't even be bothered to do the minimum, especially against City?
Aye. They should be grateful they get to live the dreams (which, incidentally, can’t be buy) of millions of Man United fans. I do not recognize a Man United fan when I see them playing.
Except scholes said he told him about it on live tv. Or is scholes lying now?
Rio and Rooney both got testimonials. RVP had been with us for a couple of years, but still deserved one more than Lingard who's a nothing player tbh.
I don't get how someone doesn't get the "hate" for him. The lad is a moron and his antics this season have been unacceptable. He's exactly the type of player this club needs to rid itself of
Because he’s a cretin who leaks to the press, posts pics of himself in another team’s kit, and is just incredibly annoying all round (see videos posted from his vacation with Rashy.) And most of all, he is nowhere near the required standard. Can’t wait too see the back of him and if I’m being honest, I hope he fails at his next club.
