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What he has done this season to get minutes before Andreas ?
It's wrong. His league record is the following according to Transfermarkt:I was expecting worse than that.
131 | 17 | 12 |
He´s a young upcoming player, thats why. Needs time to develope and fulfill his potentialWhat he has done this season to get minutes before Andreas ?
The choice between a broken ankle & a dislocated knee.What he has done this season to get minutes before Andreas ?
I think the response is just an accumulation of all the periods of incompetence. It just got to a head yesterday because of the lack of fight. A lot of the guys that started yesterday have no business with our team, it is sad they are still here stealing a living.His times up at United and deep down he probably knows it, but he wasn't the worst United performer yesterday, not even close, and considering it was his first games for months he did okay, but once the fall-guy ....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Lingard#Career_statisticsIt's wrong. His league record is the following according to Transfermarkt:
Apps/Goals/Assists
131 17 12
I don't think it's overall record either because he hasn't made 223 apps.
What he has done this season to get minutes before Andreas ?
Maximum 5/10 (4 but a little extra for that bit if skill). If you gave him 6 you would have to give every Norwich player a 7 because outside of the sending off not one of them played worse than Lingard or Mata.
I think you are just trying to be a dick to be honest.
Andreas was far better than Lingard (and Mata) for the first three months of the season, hence why he was first choice ahead of them. Then he was dropped back into central midfield when we had an injury crisis, and because he was shit in that position he basically hasn't had a chance at the #10 and right wing roles again. He only gets to play in the central midfield these days and obviously he's terrible there. Meanwhile Lingard and Mata continue to be terrible ahead of him (although to be fair Mata did have a few good games right after Bruno joined).What has Andreas dome to get minutes before Lingard? Good thing we have Bruno and Pogba now so we hopefully wont have to suffer watching Lingard and/or Andreas very often anymore.
Out of the two i do prefer Andreas... Andreas atleast takes some risks with passing and shooting eventhough he usually makes the wrong choice.
Last time he scored a goal in EPL was in December 2018 - brace vs Cardiff
He is playing like a Championship relegation player, but it doesn’t mean he is one. He may even thrive with less pressure and analysis on every poor pass, shot or touch made by him. Either way, I wish him all the best, but he certainly has to leave.
Imo Lingard has quicker feet, faster and keep possession better. Both are shit though.What he has done this season to get minutes before Andreas ?
He's gone at the end of the season, unless he pulls form, goals, and assists out of his arse in the next 7 games.What he has done this season to get minutes before Andreas ?
I wish I shared your optimism. I don't see anything left in him for a top club, his career will at best end up similar to Cleverley's.Ok all points taken but this is a lesson to be learned about player management
My opinion is that as a person he has lost his way and part of the reason for that is he has not been managed properly starting with mourinho.
He ran riot on insta and Twitter and got ahead of himself. Then he stupidly made some pathetic excuse of having to help his family (when he had been constantly fooling around like a kid in a sweet shop online for everyone to see)
The result? He has realised what a d*ck he has come across as and it has had a huge impact on his game. He is probably embarrassed!
His Tom foolery off the pitch made the fans take him less seriously and he has had a big wake up call and it’s left a huge weight on his shoulders meaning he plays with even more pressure on him than any other united player - which let’s face it is substantial anyway.
I remember some wonderful performances from him and to say he lacks talent is nonsense. He simply lacks confidence. He has the pace and guile to play anywhere across the furthest forward 4 players of the team. Yes I would rather grealish or any of martial, Bruno, Rashford or even James or pereira on current form, but he is a manc afterall, we should remember that, try to give him a break and encourage him.
If after that he still doesn’t improve, then fine let’s get rid. He needs to have the weight of the world lifted from his shoulders and remember he is an England international and scorer of great goals. He can beat a man, he has pace and assists in him as well as energy and movement.
His downturn in form is due to distractions off the pitch - albeit self inflicted. But he has turned up for United and England with some epic performances. He is 27 not 33. He can do it again. He is afterall one of our own.
come on Jesse keep calm and carry on (but much better please)
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Imo Lingard has quicker feet, faster and keep possession better. Both are shit though.
Yeah but the percentage of a good one is like 1%.Pereira can actually shot and cross. His pure footballing abilities are actually not that bad, it is just that in central roles there are too many variables for him to handle causing him to make bad decisions or becoming stressed.
Lingard can run and in certain situations control the ball at speed. That's it.
Edit: Both have clothing brands...
So, you think that based on what we have seen on Lingard and Pereira over the last 12 months, Lingard is the better player and can actually be useful? And in what way is Lingard average at shooting and passing?Yeah but the percentage of a good one is like 1%.
I've said somewhere here that the issue with Pereira is he has both slow brain and slow feet. His first touch and pressing resistance is shocking. CM or AM or whatever he's crap. We don't even need to mention his decision and vision. He's probably the worst midfielder has ever played for us. Or at least he's up there about.
While Lingard, he actually has good physical attributes. A decent first touch. Average shooting and passing. The only issue with Lingard is his brain. His is probably of a fly.
No, I never said that. I only said Lingard has quicker feet, faster and keep possession better. For a better explanation, what I mean was Lingard would do less harm than Pereira if played. Both are shit but Lingard can keep the ball better while Pereira he loses the ball too often and too easily.So, you think that based on what we have seen on Lingard and Pereira over the last 12 months, Lingard is the better player and can actually be useful? And in what way is Lingard average at shooting and passing?
I agree with this, he has no confidence anymore and when he receives the ball in a dangerous position and starts running he almost always tries to draw the foul.He runs around a lot but doesnt really want the ball. Just kinda floats around in the vicinity. I remember Brunos first game at Old Trafford already bollocking Lingard for not showing for his passes
I was expecting worse than that.
I was having this argument on another thread and wanted to check it wasn’t just me being harsh. I think the last game I thought wow he’s really moving well but not being found was in 2018. Last year and this he seems to have dropped off a knife edge.He has been doing that for a while now. His so called world class movement is now used to run away from the ball or get into positions where he can play a safe ball sideways.
He still runs a lot like he used to do but it doesnt benefit the team much. Besides that the praise he got when he wasnt completely useless because of so called movement was way over the top too.
Very average player who is very lucky he came from the academy during a period that Manchester United hasnt been good. He is a midtable player at the very best.
I was trying to be fair and nice but I just don’t see it anymore in him. He’s really dropped off.I agree with you although it has been the same for most of the season.
I wonder if he gets the right instructions on how to move or if he just does it himself.
He is not alone in not making the best runs we have seen the same with Martial and Rashford too.
Quite! Lashfold is led fo' life.Hopefully Greenwood can celebrate with an "L" next time.