I was worried when he came out and said he was almost back to his best. Reason being that suggest Ole isn’t being clear with him, there should be no reason for him to think that.
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Smalling is also an Englishman and has been with us for almost a decade. Ole doesn't have a plan for him, he chooses to leave
Whether we should sell Lingard or not but the question is would Lingard really leave? I can't see him getting a lot of game times next season if he continues like this.
Whether we should sell Lingard or not but the question is would Lingard really leave? I can't see him getting a lot of game times next season if he continues like this.
At times, Lingard has been a player who, whilst not someone i want starting regularly, has looked capable of doing a decent job in this type of match. However, currently he should not be starting any match in the league at all. He simply can’t control the ball and his passing is non-existent. He really should have been hauled off after no more than 30 minutes yesterday.
Ole is a nice guy, he wouldnt sub his precious Lingard who also has personal struggles after just 30 minutes. I wasnt expecting that to happen.
That Ole didnt sub Lingard during half time was 'criminal' and i fully did expect Lingard to be subbed at that time.
An in form Jesse gives you hard work, pressing from front and some goals, whilst not quite enough on the ball. Off form he is invisible. Hardly noticed him on the pitch. Can't understand how Ole is playing him at the moment.
As others have stated it's on Ole for picking Jesse. 0 Goals 0 Assists for an attacking midfielder in over a year of Premier League football (without long term injury) shows the level he is at. Even Arron Ramsdale (goalkeeper) has more assists than Jesse this season and center-backs like Lewis Dunk who has 3 goals and 2 assists this season.
Conclusion, Jesse is playing as well as he can, he just isn't good enough to contribute. Therefore, Ole needs to stop picking him.
Conclusion, Jesse is playing as well as he can, he just isn't good enough to contribute. Therefore, Ole needs to stop picking him.
Uses family illness as a means to justify abhorrent form. There are people all over the country, struggling for money, battling high pressure jobs, with significantly more challenging personal circumstances than Jesse Lingard.
Interestingly, it didn’t affect his ability to take part in JD adverts, flog new clothing or create a YouTube account.
A crass, little twerp that should be booted out of the club at the first opportunity. He’s poisonous.
Interestingly, it didn’t affect his ability to take part in JD adverts, flog new clothing or create a YouTube account.
A crass, little twerp that should be booted out of the club at the first opportunity. He’s poisonous.
27 actually. Probably due a testimonial soon!
I remember some comments during the time when Lingard was playing well saying that he was as good as Ji-Sung Park. No fecking way, Park was a hard worker but also a quality footballer in his own right.
Theres mounting evidence that he's actually got worse.
Lingard hasn't become a load of rubbish overnight - he's comfortable and coasting. Needs squad depth to push him (or push him out of the team)
Yes and you have posters saying Lingard isn't to blame.
Yet again though he's never criticised.
Imagine if this was Pogba or Martial putting in these sort of performances? Rio never says anything bad against any of the English lads.
I remember he raved about him saying how he has world class movement and the type of player any team would love. Seems like that went to his head as he hasn't done anything since.
I think he's just the epitome of a player knowing they've "made it", he earns shedloads of money, has massive job security since he's a "local lad", he's got hardly any competition and can just swan around doing nothing all game and still expect to start.
So much for Ole being ruthless also. We should be getting 2 midfielders and a number 10 ASAP, but we all know it won't happen.
Imagine if this was Pogba or Martial putting in these sort of performances? Rio never says anything bad against any of the English lads.
I remember he raved about him saying how he has world class movement and the type of player any team would love. Seems like that went to his head as he hasn't done anything since.
I think he's just the epitome of a player knowing they've "made it", he earns shedloads of money, has massive job security since he's a "local lad", he's got hardly any competition and can just swan around doing nothing all game and still expect to start.
So much for Ole being ruthless also. We should be getting 2 midfielders and a number 10 ASAP, but we all know it won't happen.
I sincerely hope that the penny finally dropped with Solskjaer and Lingard doesn't start any meaningful games for us again (bar an injury crisis). Both Pereira and Mata are far more useful than him and I'd rather give any cup starts going spare to Gomes than Lingard. Even with Pogba out we have depth enough in attacking mid that he doesn't need to be stating games. He's in atrocious form that's been going on for well over a year with little evidence he can recover from it.
Solskjaer failing to grasp that could well cost him his job. Or contribute heavily towards it at least.
Solskjaer failing to grasp that could well cost him his job. Or contribute heavily towards it at least.
While he isn't picking himself he has to shoulder some or most of the responsibility for his own performances.
If his personal issues are affecting his performances that much and to be fair it seems like they are. Then he could and should speak to Solskjaer about that and discuss if its the best thing right now for him professionally/personally and United that he's regularly starting games.
We don't actually know anything,nothing appears to happen or in reality, nothing actually changes. There's your problem
Who does he ever say anything bad against?
He already has and has gone to the press with the issues. While I have huge empathy, the team on the field is not the place for his recovery. It's unforgiving and if you're out there,you're there on merit and it's assumed you're OK.
He clearly isn't and his mind isn't on it. He and Ole are in denial. Lingard needs time out to reflect on what he really wants to do. ATM, he's no use to the team and if he can't see that, he has a bigger problem
He shouldn't be playing but this is Ole's fault
If he needs time out for personal problems then he should take that. The Man United first 11 isn't a place for people with his form let alone people with personal issues. I hope the club can do what they can to help and Jesse does what's needed.
If he needs time out for personal problems then he should take that. The Man United first 11 isn't a place for people with his form let alone people with personal issues. I hope the club can do what they can to help and Jesse does what's needed.
No one ever says shit about this lad.
Pundits and fan channels on youtube.
By far and away our worst player.
Pundits and fan channels on youtube.
By far and away our worst player.
It's a bit weird with Lingard. In contrast to most other players, criticism here is almost unanimous. He -also- has horrid stats (zero goal involvements et cetera) and has been out of form seemingly forever. Still, he plays. Must be a case of trying to 'play him into form'.
We play somebody in the number 10 role who can't score goals or create goals and we wonder why we're crap. Absolute insult to the fans at this point. There must be 2/3 players at the club already who would do a better job. No idea why he keeps getting picked. Talk of him getting a new deal again too. Hopeless.
I might be a bit harsh on this one but even before his "personal and family issues" stuffs came out (or even existed), He was never considered a good ManUnited player to begin with. So He's simply just not good enough for the club. Doesn't matter if it's this year or the next year, He'll stay the same. And Ole should start by taking his blinder off and accept that this guy will never make it here. Let him stay as a first choice and Ole will make things harder for himself. The last thing He needs.
I bet the club is still trying their best for him to get that one goal so that they can announce the contract extension. Absolute joke of a footballer.
I love the rhetoric that Lingard doesn't pick himself. I mean, what the actual feck. No player picks themselves ffs; it would make every single player on the planet immune to criticism if a player isn't to be criticised because he doesn't pick himself.
Yes, Ole deserves criticism for picking Lingard but Lingard deserves to be criticised for being fecking terrible for over a year now. The two are separate issues.
Yes, Ole deserves criticism for picking Lingard but Lingard deserves to be criticised for being fecking terrible for over a year now. The two are separate issues.
How he is getting into the first team is becoming a real joke.
Ole says he is looking sharp and fit in training, but we seem to play with 10 men with him on the pitch.
Wouldn't get into any other PL team.
Ole says he is looking sharp and fit in training, but we seem to play with 10 men with him on the pitch.
Wouldn't get into any other PL team.
In that rate he'll sack the Poch faster than Ole as his form dipping into uncharted levels.
Neville too busy giving stick to martial and pogba
The truth is Ole is disrespecting fans by continuing to select Lingard to start games, and not getting rid of him.
I have always thought Neville and some other ex-players have good access to Ole and are playing “director of football” behind the scenes. So they can’t criticize a local lad who has “the right attitude and gets United”, because they would be critical of the policy they advocated.
Oh i know he has but i think it's a conversation that needs to be revisited. You may be right that one or both of Jesse and Ole are in denial. I have huge sympathy for him and i think Ole should protect him now by taking him out of the firing line.
And also Southgate, best manager around to judge player worth. He bleeds red though, whatever it means. I bet even Glaston would bleeds red, if you pay him 100k/wk.Wonder where those posters, who kept going on about his 'movement off the ball' being one of the best in the league or about how 'but but LVG, Jose and Ole keep picking him'are right now.
There's a difference between supporting/defending a player (definitely commendable in the light of the ott harsh criticism that Lingard was receiving) and being downright delusional.
It also makes you wonder why there's no big and small clubs lining up for his signature.
Can't believe how little he offers now. Other teams must be delighted to see him on our teamsheet.
How and why does this fraud still play for us? We are a pathetic shambles of a team. I’d honestly sack them all and start again with Greenwood being the only player I’d keep.
There comes a time when you have to question the manager for playing him. He's offered nothing for a long time now, had no impact from the bench. Criminal being allowed to start.
Start with the manager and then let him get 3-4 players and see what happens with the rest if we get a good manager in.
As harsh as this will sound, if the player is available then what goes on in his life should be of no concern to us.
We all cope with our issues our own way, if Lingard is available then he cannot have it both ways, he has to be criticized for it. Ole isn't holding a gun to his head to play. He makes himself available despite his issues knowing Ole loves him and will use, I'd even go as far as saying it's selfish from him to do that.
If the issues are serious then do whatever necessary to cope with them.
Damn! It's scary to think that he's likely signed a new deal that the club are just dodging announcing.
He is so lucky we have such a thin squad
He's playing with the motivation of someone who already knows he's done. I reckon he's on his way out in the summer.
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