Robbie Boy
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Lingard? Nah. Not exotic or glamorous enough. Could we get Ounas or Lozano instead?
Spot on. Not.
Lingard? Nah. Not exotic or glamorous enough. Could we get Ounas or Lozano instead?
Its just Preseason, and our lots of players missing, I doubt we will see him first choice, unless he is doing something very well in practice.For my part. I've seen no indication that he's a squad player. Ever since he broke into the team he's been first choice.
I wasn't wrong at all about Willian is overrated in this forum. To think that there are someone said Willian is very good player and class player.
I'm not saying you are wrong but if we consider Chelsea as a top 6, I can see him fighting 50:50 for a spot with Willian at Chelsea.
You do realise that the rest of the players were so poor today not only Lingard. Dortmund had the advantage in term of match fitness. People need to calm down. It's a pre season. When he plays well, people are hiding, when he's underperformed because of fitness people are shooting at him.
Your initial post was just odd. Why would people come in here after a match against Wigan and praise a player that by all accounts didn't do anything exceptional (from what I heard). I mean, he will obviously be judged more and talked about more against better opposition, is that not natural, no? I have already said I didn't see the Wigan game; if you watched it, could you tell me what he done that people should have been talking about?
I assumed you were a wee bit upset after this line:
Then I stated that people were criticizing him in the Lingard thread as it is a thread about is performances. Other players were criticized in their respective threads.
The number of posts he got for Wigan game was so much less than the number of posts he got against Dortmund.
I don't see much wrong with someone saying that. Right now he'd walk into our team.
So what was the excuse for 35 games last season then?
Do behave hazard and Willian are far better players.
How come last season games has something to do with pre season games?
Well as you sounded genuinely shocked that Lingard was criticised for another sub-par performance, like it was a rarity. Thought I'd remind you about his prior games.
No one said anything about the Wigan game because he had an average game, didn't do anything wrong nor did he really contribute anything meaningful either.
Look, I'm really wanted to be proved wrong by this guy, and want him to become good, but unless he has a sudden huge turnaround in the next few weeks I just cannot see it as he is just a very mediocre player and one who is very lucky to still be here.
Based on their performance's last season, you could argue otherwise. Willian was Chelsea's player of the season and carried his team at times last season.Do behave. Hazard is far better than Willian.
Based on their performance's last season, you could argue otherwise. Willian was Chelsea's player of the season and carried his team at times last season.
Nonetheless, your attempt to dodge his statement with your comment is.blatant. As @Lawman said, Hazard and Willian are far better players than Lingard so he is well within his rights in suggesting that you should behave yourself.
With Willian as Chelsea's player of the season showed how poor the rest of the players. That's why they finished 10th. Nothing to be called top class or very good by becoming best player with a club who finished 10th. With that performance last season, Lingard would have walk in on that Chelsea squad last season.
For my part. I've seen no indication that he's a squad player. Ever since he broke into the team he's been first choice.
I keep looking for the white text buddy but either you're a wum or we just having massively differing opinions which is fine so I'll leave it at that.
He's been told he won't be a regular starter next season, according to Ducker, so that's good enough for me.
No surprise there. He's no where near good enough to be a regular starter. I don't expect him to feature much in the league; mostly just league cup and Europa.He's been told he won't be a regular starter next season, according to Ducker, so that's good enough for me.
Basically Willian was the player of the season because everyone else had worse season, he's nothing special. The same thing on Lingard, he was the first choice right winger because everyone else worse at right wing. Why is it so hard to understand this.
Whatever. It's either you are overratting Willian or im underrating Willian. I'm shocked.You are not reading the original post Mike and whatever you are saying, basically into Lingard is not good enough to be a regular. Willian on the other hand is.
Whatever. It's either you are overratting Willian or im underrating Willian. I'm shocked.
If you think Lingard is comparable to Willian, then you're not just underrating Willian but massively overrating Lingard.
I don't even rate Lingard. And I don't even rate both Lingard and Willian. You are the one who overratting Willian in my view which I already said majority on this forum.
Haha hilarious, I don't even rate Willian particularly highly. He's a good player but I wouldn't particularly want him here. I don't rate Lingard, that's the thing.
Haha very hilarious, you rated him as a "very good player" before, and now you called him "good player". Don't deny with the fact that you rated him as a very good player. That's overratting for Willian.
Willian is far better than Lingard
He's been told he won't be a regular starter next season, according to Ducker, so that's good enough for me.
Baffling that everyone can see it bar one poster.
Very good at what he does, yes. Would I want him here? No. No, overrating is you implying that Lingard is a superior player. That should be obvious given how many people have called you out on it. I get it Mike, you're a Lingard fan. I just don't see it.
One poster who has backtracked and turned the Lingard should not be a regular debate into he is better than Willian who in his opinion is not that great anyhow.
When did I say Lingard is a superior player? Do you even read? I don't even rate Lingard, you are just making things up trying to argue with me. You know you shouldn't drag this too long and clearly the post I replied has nothing to do with you.
One thing I know for sure that you are selfish who likes to argue with people! Not a good hobby Mr Robbie. All I have been saying is Lingard will put a challenge to Willian. If you think by saying that I'm implying Lingard as a superior player, in that case you think Willian is a superior player and again overratting the player when clearly hesn't not even superior. Not even considered to be very good even in a category what he does there are more players better than him for what he does. He won't even stand a chance on United 2007-2009 side (Ronaldo, Giggs, Park, Nani). Not even in Chelsea (Joe Cole, Robben, Duff, Gudjohnsen)
Christ
One poster who has backtracked and turned the Lingard should not be a regular debate into he is better than Willian who in his opinion is not that great anyhow.