Lingard will never be a great player for us, at best he's a okay squad player. He has plenty of talent but simply lacks the discipline to be a great player and make the right decisions in crucial moments. Sure, he'll have a good game in 10 games but that's it. He does not even deserve 100k per week, he just runs and chases the ball like a headless chicken and when he gets the ball, his first touch is poor and he gives it away.
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And that's ok. Every side needs quality squad players who can come on and put in a good shift from time to time. Madrid, Barca, PSG, etc all have them.
Lingard wouldn't get near any of those squads.
Well that's an unprovable hypothetical.
Total difference in quality between us and Madrid, Barca and PSG. Our squad players used to be better during SAF's reign. If we want to challenge for the title we cannot rely on Lingard once a team player has an injury. Work rate counts for zero when you constantly give the ball away.
Useless today.
Fergie started players like Jones, Smalling, Ashley Young, Cleverley, Gibson etc...so there isn't much difference from today.
What's the use of "working hard and putting in a shift" every game if you can't pass a fecking ball properly against SWANSEA fecking CITY. @Trizy told he earns more than Isco and Marcelo, I am not surprised that the team is so bad when we pay OTT amounts to mediocre players like this shit.
Fergie could get more out of average players than any other manager hence why he was the greatest.
Yeah and that's why we failed so miserably in Europe and why we got battered by City a few times at the end of Ferguson's reign. Standards dropped so far, we were playing dross like Young, Anderson, Cleverley, Giggs etc in the first team. It's happening again regarding low standards and average players stinking out our team, but you refuse to acknowledge it.
Worked hard, put a shift in, tracked back bla bla. Typical 6 out of 10 for Jessie.Not what you want from a Utd wide player
He's not a very smart footballer... At all.
Surely you jest. Fergie's final 5 years was the best stretch of his career - 3 CL finals and 4 league titles, even finishing up his career with a league win - with the likes of Smalling, Jones, Young, Gibson, Cleverley, Fletcher, and Evans et al featuring during that stretch.
All I ever hear on the Caf is what a marvellously 'intelligent' player Lingard is. Where does that even come from? At the moment it looks like a unfounded trodden cliche.
He's bang average. You have to ask with youth products, if they hadn't come through the academy, how highly would we rate them? If Lingard was, say, a Crystal Palace player, would we be desperate to sign him?
But but he "works hard", "puts in a shift" every game and has been our best players all season and really deserves 100k more than any other United player.
SARCASM BTW
Another rubbish post. You'll get promoted in no time at all.
He wouldn't be rated. That's the harsh reality of it. Could you honestly envisage watching him play for someone else and think to yourself "oh I would love us to sign Lingard".
That is about his level, he would be the top player in a low to mid table team.
I would rather sign Andy Carroll.
No he wouldn't. He wouldn't even start for Palace.
Would he even get in the Palace team ahead of Townsend and Zaha? That's the mind blowing thing. I know we had average players in the past but atleast they'd get in most premier league teams.
I agree it's like watching Cleverley play all over again. He's a very average player in my opinion. Last week we had some poster say he has a very good shot and posted 6 video clips to back it up yet his goal to game record for an attacker at United is dreadful. No wonder we haven't finished teams off when we have attackers like Lingard and Rooney.
No he wouldn't even be a definitive starter for them. Says it all unfortunately.
Yup I think Cleverley is a very fair comparison. I'm no Welbeck fan but he was better than Lingard ffs.
Easily
Today his off the ball movement was breathtaking, too bad his on the ball movement was heartbreaking.
Breathtaking? Lay off the fags.
And it's about time he stopped getting a free pass for his 'movement'.
He had one good run with the ball than thought he can do it all do time, losing possession and getting himself in the middle of Swansea players.
100k a week.. feck me senseless. Stealing a living based on that performance. I hate the fact he's starting so many games.. that needs to be addressed next year, the fact that our squad is that weak, a guy like this is one of our regular starters. Average is giving him too much praise.. he was abysmal.
He's one of those players who has one brilliant game for 9 shit performances.
He's one of those players who has one brilliant game for 9 shit performances.
We need Lingard because so many of our players are dangerously close to stationary. Yes there are some matches, some situations, where Lingard's ability looks a long way short of top 4 quality.
Put another way, if we had a more mobile squad, we would have little need for Lingard's strengths.
He has started 23 matches this season so not exactly a regular.
Put another way, if we had a more mobile squad, we would have little need for Lingard's strengths.
He has started 23 matches this season so not exactly a regular.
The truth is he is a squad player, and the only reason he's playing so much is because another big summer signing Mkhitaryan has flopped badly so far.
We have a lot of players who do OK when the team plays well as a whole but when you need someone to step up and win a game like today, too many of them are average and are not capable of doing so on a regular basis.
Lingard is one of them - if we improve in other areas, he'll look better or he could be a decent squad player but at the minute, he's being exposed for the average player that he is. There's no shame in it - no team has world beaters in every position but he is one of many who could be replaced with somebody much better.
Lingard is one of them - if we improve in other areas, he'll look better or he could be a decent squad player but at the minute, he's being exposed for the average player that he is. There's no shame in it - no team has world beaters in every position but he is one of many who could be replaced with somebody much better.
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Being a squad player doesn't excuse his poor performanes. Son is a squad player for Spurs but actually performs when he plays. Also, Lingard has been involved in 75 games since the start of last season. That's a hell of a-lot for a 'squad player'.
If we had players that were comfortably out performing him I'd understand the criticism, but he had two on target, and was more mobile than anyone but Rashford.
Shit team performance, but not the worst culprit by a mile.
Absolutely spot on.
Yeah I agree with this. The issue is I feel similarly about Mkhi too, they both scream the sort of players that need someone else to play off and to take responsibility for them.
Why's he been involved so much? Why haven't our two £30m+ signings Mkhitaryan and Martial nailed those two postitions over the course of the season?
Assuming Mourinho didn't fancy Mata, that must have been his intention from the start to have Martial left and Mkhitaryan right.
I don't excuse Lingard's poor performances at all, but for me there's much bigger questions about Martial and Mkhitaryan this season than Lingard.
I think the big problem with this United team isn't the Fellaini's, Lingard's etc but the "big" players who don't perform consistently enough.
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