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2015-16 Performances

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5.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
39
Goals
6
Assists
4
Yellow cards
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drdoityourself said:
At least where I come from you're classed in your age group. Those who are born in the same calendar year are judged on the same level, whether you are born in January or December, you grow up playing at the same level. He will be 24 this year. You can call it a late bloomer, but I can't see him improving to the required standard of a Manchester United player.
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Well UEFA and FIFA rules state that your age group is classified at the start of the calendar year a tournament commenced, so by that definition Lingard is a 22 year old player this season. It's the reason you can have 23 year olds playing in the U21 finals, or 22, as Jesse was when he scored England's winner against Sweden in last years UEFA U21s.

Lingard's shown a few signs of promise at times this season for me: He never hides from responsibility, unlike Januzaj. He's not been afraid to break in and take a shot, unlike most of our team under van Gaal which has seen him bag a couple and he can at least deliver a cross around 70% of the time unlike any of our other genuine wingers. With Januzaj back he'll see more competition for limited opportunities and I don't personally think he'll make it, but he's still worth a shot and it would please me no end to see a young local lad break through.
 
He's let me down a bit lately, because he's shown that he can perform better. Been a bit sloppy on the ball of late, but provided a great assist for Blind yesterday. I do think he's better on the left, though, but then so is Martial.
 
Bury Red said:
Well UEFA and FIFA rules state that your age group is classified at the start of the calendar year a tournament commenced, so by that definition Lingard is a 22 year old player this season. It's the reason you can have 23 year olds playing in the U21 finals, or 22, as Jesse was when he scored England's winner against Sweden in last years UEFA U21s.

Lingard's shown a few signs of promise at times this season for me: He never hides from responsibility, unlike Januzaj. He's not been afraid to break in and take a shot, unlike most of our team under van Gaal which has seen him bag a couple and he can at least deliver a cross around 70% of the time unlike any of our other genuine wingers. With Januzaj back he'll see more competition for limited opportunities and I don't personally think he'll make it, but he's still worth a shot and it would please me no end to see a young local lad break through.
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You can accuse Januzaj of a lot of things but hiding isn't one of them he always tries to get on the ball and take players on.
 
Don't understand the hate towards this kid at all - he is at least as good as most of the rest of the team right now... Like a lot of others i'm a little saddened to see the lack of progress from Januzaj over the past two seasons but it certainly isn't Lindgards fault. Januzaj continues to be over-hyped and for some on here he can do no wrong - but basically he's been crap recently.
 
Adisa said:
You can accuse Januzaj of a lot of things but hiding isn't one of them he always tries to get on the ball and take players on.
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Two years ago maybe, but under van Gaal he's gone backwards and seems to shirk responsibility much of the time for fear of his move not coming off.
 
Owngoalscorer said:
Don't understand the hate towards this kid at all - he is at least as good as most of the rest of the team right now... Like a lot of others i'm a little saddened to see the lack of progress from Januzaj over the past two seasons but it certainly isn't Lindgards fault. Januzaj continues to be over-hyped and for some on here he can do no wrong - but basically he's been crap recently.
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The answer is they're both overhyped to hell. Januzaj might be better suited to play in Spain or Germany for a midtable class team.

Lingaard is just a championship standard player, hes 23 now so hes not a high potential youngster like martial or Shaw. He's basically another version of Nick powell.

Fact is, Neither are good enough or at the standard required for United and never will be its that simple.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
The answer is they're both overhyped to hell. Januzaj might be better suited to play in Spain or Germany for a midtable class team.

Lingaard is just a championship standard player, hes 23 now so hes not a high potential youngster like martial or Shaw. He's basically another version of Nick powell.

Fact is, Neither are good enough or at the standard required for United and never will be its that simple.
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I'll not argue with the overhype but it's difficult to write either player off when they're playing in such an uninspired team where any risky forward play is being drummed out of them. Depay is supposed to be one of the best up and coming wingers in the world, Di Maria was already proven as one of the best yet van Gaal has managed to make them both look mediocre. What chance did Januzaj or Lingard ever have under him?

Both are still young enough to make it and hopefully Depay will turn it around as well but it's not going to happen as long as LVG and his philosophy stick around.
 
Bury Red said:
I'll not argue with the overhype but it's difficult to write either player off when they're playing in such an uninspired team where any risky forward play is being drummed out of them. Depay is supposed to be one of the best up and coming wingers in the world, Di Maria was already proven as one of the best yet van Gaal has managed to make them both look mediocre. What chance did Januzaj or Lingard ever have under him?

Both are still young enough to make it and hopefully Depay will turn it around as well but it's not going to happen as long as LVG and his philosophy stick around.
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Hard to disagree when put like this.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
The answer is they're both overhyped to hell. Januzaj might be better suited to play in Spain or Germany for a midtable class team.

Lingaard is just a championship standard player, hes 23 now so hes not a high potential youngster like martial or Shaw. He's basically another version of Nick powell.

Fact is, Neither are good enough or at the standard required for United and never will be its that simple.
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Really ?
You sound like Rafa : Fact
& you should perhaps learn to differentiate between fact and opinion :)
 
Owngoalscorer said:
Really ?
You sound like Rafa : Fact
& you should perhaps learn to differentiate between fact and opinion :)
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Fact is no PL wanted him on loan last season and he did not manage to make anything out of his loan in the Championship. When it comes to my opinion, he is one of the weakest attacking players I have seen at United, at least considering his age.
 
He's not terrible, puts in the effort and does a job. He should be nowhere near Manchester United's first choice XI.

His 'resurgence' speaks more about Memphis than Jesse in my opinion. You can't tell me that if Memphis pushed himself to defend better and learn more of the tactical side, that he couldn't be a much better option out there.
 
Beachryan said:
He's not terrible, puts in the effort and does a job. He should be nowhere near Manchester United's first choice XI.

His 'resurgence' speaks more about Memphis than Jesse in my opinion. You can't tell me that if Memphis pushed himself to defend better and learn more of the tactical side, that he couldn't be a much better option out there.
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I think it strange when people or fans get mad at a player for putting a better shift than their preferred player. Saw the same with Young being called names because he was doing better than ADM, is it not the responsibility of Memphis and Januzaj to show more than Lingard. If memory serves me right Memphis started the season as a starter, Lingard should be given credit and not castigated for stepping up.
Any I like Lingard for the type of player he is, not every first team player in a top should be a superstar or else you'll never get the proper balance. The work he does for team is being overlooked, if the same responsibilty is added unto Martial we'll be discussing him differently.
 
I think he's a talented lad and has got a chance of making it with us. He will only improve by play time, which is what he is getting atm. All young lads stepping up have dips in form and Jesse is going through that presently. He'll need to work out how to better impose himself on games but even in a below average performance, he produces a lovely assist.

Not everyone can burst onto the scene at 17 looking like a World beater. If Jesse is to make it, he'll be one of those slow burn type players who'll hopefully improve year on year.
 
KikiDaKats said:
I think it strange when people or fans get mad at a player for putting a better shift than their preferred player. Saw the same with Young being called names because he was doing better than ADM, is it not the responsibility of Memphis and Januzaj to show more than Lingard. If memory serves me right Memphis started the season as a starter, Lingard should be given credit and not castigated for stepping up.
Any I like Lingard for the type of player he is, not every first team player in a top should be a superstar or else you'll never get the proper balance. The work he does for team is being overlooked, if the same responsibilty is added unto Martial we'll be discussing him differently.
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Very good shout! He's stepped up and the responsibility of the players in that position is to fight harder and demonstrate more than Jesse in training or if they get a chance as a sub to take their place back. Friendly rivalry and competition for places has to exist or they'll never improve as a team or individually.
 
He's not good enough. Shows how messed up our squad is that hes a starter
 
Owngoalscorer said:
Really ?
You sound like Rafa : Fact
& you should perhaps learn to differentiate between fact and opinion :)
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He struggled to make any impact when he was on loan at the championship teams now all of a sudden he's good enough to be playing for Manchester united....erm ok then.

It is a fact he's not good enough for us yet muppets like you can't see that, meanwhile you'll most likely be raging on match days because we're so mediocre yet can't understand why. It's because players like him are regulars.

Average players = Average performances.
 
Red71 said:
Very good shout! He's stepped up and the responsibility of the players in that position is to fight harder and demonstrate more than Jesse in training or if they get a chance as a sub to take their place back. Friendly rivalry and competition for places has to exist or they'll never improve as a team or individually.
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Maybe some prefer players to coast on reputation.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
He struggled to make any impact when he was on loan at the championship teams now all of a sudden he's good enough to be playing for Manchester united....erm ok then.

It is a fact he's not good enough for us yet muppets like you can't see that, meanwhile you'll most likely be raging on match days because we're so mediocre yet can't understand why.
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Every season is a new beginning both for the body and mind. For young players it means physical growth and experience. I doubt Kane would have been the opportunity at Spurs if this was overlooked.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
He struggled to make any impact when he was on loan at the championship teams now all of a sudden he's good enough to be playing for Manchester united....erm ok then.

It is a fact he's not good enough for us yet muppets like you can't see that, meanwhile you'll most likely be raging on match days because we're so mediocre yet can't understand why. It's because players like him are regulars.

Average players = Average performances.
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Totally agree. He's in because he does his defensive duties quite well but he's shit at the business end when it counts!

How that makes him a Utd player beats me
 
Inigo Montoya said:
Totally agree. He's in because he does his defensive duties quite well but he's shit at the business end when it counts!

How that makes him a Utd player beats me
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To most fans, the attacking duties are the most important qualities in an attacker.
However, to LVG, defensive duties are what count the most.
 
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sunama said:
To most fans, the attacking duties are the most important qualities in an attacker.
However, to LVG, defensive duties are what count the most.
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No. He's in the team because his competition has been even worse which is not his fault.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
He struggled to make any impact when he was on loan at the championship teams now all of a sudden he's good enough to be playing for Manchester united....erm ok then.

It is a fact he's not good enough for us yet muppets like you can't see that, meanwhile you'll most likely be raging on match days because we're so mediocre yet can't understand why. It's because players like him are regulars.

Average players = Average performances.
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Ah good lets go and buy someone - I would say muppet is a more apt description of those who want to take the Galactico route to success rather than bringing through local talent from the academy. You forget that Utd's achievements over the last 50 yrs were based on our own kids who were given a chance to shine over several seasons. Today's supporters want it all now, right now and if it doesn't click in half a dozen matches get rid immediately... Championship material hmm.. where does that put the likes of Jamie Vardy ? Oh yes the last rumour I heard was Real wanting to buy this northern conference player.. You should probably go and watch City or Chelsea, you'd feel more at home. Lindgard is far from perfect but he's also far from the carcrash that many on here see. I for one am glad he's getting the chance to prove you wrong. Or perhaps we should move Schweinsteiger out to the wing again ??
 
Owngoalscorer said:
Ah good lets go and buy someone - I would say muppet is a more apt description of those who want to take the Galactico route to success rather than bringing through local talent from the academy. You forget that Utd's achievements over the last 50 yrs were based on our own kids who were given a chance to shine over several seasons. Today's supporters want it all now, right now and if it doesn't click in half a dozen matches get rid immediately... Championship material hmm.. where does that put the likes of Jamie Vardy ? Oh yes the last rumour I heard was Real wanting to buy this northern conference player.. You should probably go and watch City or Chelsea, you'd feel more at home. Lindgard is far from perfect but he's also far from the carcrash that many on here see. I for one am glad he's getting the chance to prove you wrong. Or perhaps we should move Schweinsteiger out to the wing again ??
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Oh dear, You're beyond saving. I'm going to save my fingers from typing but all that ^^^ is complete nonsense :rolleyes:
 
Owngoalscorer said:
Ah good lets go and buy someone - I would say muppet is a more apt description of those who want to take the Galactico route to success rather than bringing through local talent from the academy. You forget that Utd's achievements over the last 50 yrs were based on our own kids who were given a chance to shine over several seasons. Today's supporters want it all now, right now and if it doesn't click in half a dozen matches get rid immediately... Championship material hmm.. where does that put the likes of Jamie Vardy ? Oh yes the last rumour I heard was Real wanting to buy this northern conference player.. You should probably go and watch City or Chelsea, you'd feel more at home. Lindgard is far from perfect but he's also far from the carcrash that many on here see. I for one am glad he's getting the chance to prove you wrong. Or perhaps we should move Schweinsteiger out to the wing again ??
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This is quite ridiculous.
 
Owngoalscorer said:
Ah good lets go and buy someone - I would say muppet is a more apt description of those who want to take the Galactico route to success rather than bringing through local talent from the academy. You forget that Utd's achievements over the last 50 yrs were based on our own kids who were given a chance to shine over several seasons. Today's supporters want it all now, right now and if it doesn't click in half a dozen matches get rid immediately... Championship material hmm.. where does that put the likes of Jamie Vardy ? Oh yes the last rumour I heard was Real wanting to buy this northern conference player.. You should probably go and watch City or Chelsea, you'd feel more at home. Lindgard is far from perfect but he's also far from the carcrash that many on here see. I for one am glad he's getting the chance to prove you wrong. Or perhaps we should move Schweinsteiger out to the wing again ??
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:lol: I wonder if people read before they post. Can't even spell his name!
 
Most seem to be split between him being a squad player and not being good enough, I'm curious if thee is anyone that thinks he can be a regular starter once the wins get additions?
 
Not his fault Memphis is heavily underperforming though. He puts in a shift but ultimately he's just not good enough.
 
It's ridiculous that fans can expect a young player who developed late physically, in his first full season to put in performances that we expect from senior players like Rooney. Like all young players, they really should be given the allowances for inconsistency to grow. Too many FM fans on here.
 
dichinero said:
It's ridiculous that fans can expect a young player who developed late physically, in his first full season to put in performances that we expect from senior players like Rooney. Like all young players, they really should be given the allowances for inconsistency to grow. Too many FM fans on here.
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Irrespective of whether he's a supposed late bloomer, he's still 23, and doesn't look anywhere near good enough considering that. The fact that he's perhaps developed late physically doesn't excuse for his poor general play, nor for the fact that he doesn't look good enough. I mean, he might significantly improve as a player, but there's probably a much stronger chance he'll get sold to Burnley or Sunderland in a year or two and fade into relative obscurity. It'd be nice if that wasn't the case, of course, but I don't see what's wrong in fans expecting regular players to put in good performances.
 
Cheesy said:
Irrespective of whether he's a supposed late bloomer, he's still 23, and doesn't look anywhere near good enough considering that. The fact that he's perhaps developed late physically doesn't excuse for his poor general play, nor for the fact that he doesn't look good enough. I mean, he might significantly improve as a player, but there's probably a much stronger chance he'll get sold to Burnley or Sunderland in a year or two and fade into relative obscurity. It'd be nice if that wasn't the case, of course, but I don't see what's wrong in fans expecting regular players to put in good performances.
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I've not said his performances have been great but the expectations on the young players at United can be pretty unreasonable at times. These young players dont have the experience required to perform at high levels week in and week out in the toughest leagues. They are always going to be many inconsistent performances. It's not like Januzaj, McNair, Lingard et al were this poor when they came onto the scene. As a matter of facts their arrivals into the first XI was actually the only shining light at those points of the season. They have a string of poor performances as expected of young players and they be slated here as though they are expected to perform on the same level as Rooney.

Regarding Lingard being 23, as a coach myself I know that age doenst matter when there is no experience. His slow physical development has set him back a year or two, then you consider the season he was out for, you will see that as far as 23 year old players go, Lingard is miles behind in terms of experience.

That said, I want his performances to be better and it should be but we can't judge this players with the same ruler we use for the more experienced players.
 
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