Jelle ten Rouwelaar is apparently going to be our new Goalkeeping coach according to Laurie Whitwell
Jelle ten Rouwelaar - New Goalkeeping coach?
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Remember him as a promising youngster on cm 01/02.
Burnley keeper was hot trash last season
He looks like the sort of person you will see online for scamming an old lady into having her roof done.
Im suprised he didnt end up as FC Bayern's Goalkeeper coach in honesty
Burnley were thrash last year, yet...... the manger upgraded from Turf Moor to the Allianz Arena. Just saying.
He looks like Ten Hags younger pumped up brother.
Exiting this thread as the critics are about to lose their collective shite that we’re linked to/signing yet another Dutchman 
I'm not yet convinced. How much baldness is covered underneath his hat?
The big news for me in this is that Richard Hartis leaves the club after five years of service with the first team. Nine and a half years in the academy too in his earlier stint.
From The Athletic: "... with Mitchell van der Gaag and Benni McCarthy set to depart. Steve McClaren is set to stay..."
Didn't know MVG was leaving.
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Is Phelan still at the club? Do you know what role McLaren is taking up?
Wasn't he no.1 before but had to take a step down due to heart condition?
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That seemed likely, given Hake's imminent appointment. And it makes sense if Van Nistelrooij takes on striker training.
McLaren is moving to a different role. Doubt RvN would be just a striker coach, he'll be assistant.
Weird one as he just joined Ajax two months ago. But I'm all for shaking things up.
One thing that occurs to me, in my uneducated opinion on the topic, is that we really need a coach to teach a lot of team how to receive the ball from a goalkeeper playing the modern style of playing out from the back. Onana already seems super competent at that, but often other players aren't in the positions to receive the ball and take advantage of his ability.
One thing that occurs to me, in my uneducated opinion on the topic, is that we really need a coach to teach a lot of team how to receive the ball from a goalkeeper playing the modern style of playing out from the back. Onana already seems super competent at that, but often other players aren't in the positions to receive the ball and take advantage of his ability.
Apparently has ambitions to be a no.1 himself.
Where were we at 2 months ago when he was clearly willing to leave Burnley?
Now this will cost us a few million in compensation.
Now this will cost us a few million in compensation.
You Jelle, bro?
I imagine part of the review was all of the coaching staff also, given the review has just finished it was probably decided that Richard Hartis was not needed/wanted once it was decided EtH was staying.
Dutchester United
We hire Dutch. Its our philosophy
I don't believe it'll be anything close to a few million. He's a goalkeeping who is said to have been on around £2k a week at Burnley and I doubt he will have been on much more at Ajax. So the compensation will be pretty small in the grand scheme of things.
I thought United (Ashworth, Wilcox and co) would start hiring their own staff to support the manager
Thought the point was that they didn’t want to hire a whole new back room staff every time a manager is sacked. But they’re letting Erik do his thing aren’t they
Thought the point was that they didn’t want to hire a whole new back room staff every time a manager is sacked. But they’re letting Erik do his thing aren’t they
He must be good because the "famous Ajax fan account" on Twitter is furious
Erik ten Hag KNOWS that Jelle ten Rouwelaar has just joined Ajax, he knows it damn well and he simply doesn't give a f*ck. If you have any sort of feeling with your former club you don't do this.
Very disappointing move by him!
https://x.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1808942736210280481?t=3f9GQYq8diI5zq2ondha-Q&s=19
Erik ten Hag KNOWS that Jelle ten Rouwelaar has just joined Ajax, he knows it damn well and he simply doesn't give a f*ck. If you have any sort of feeling with your former club you don't do this.
Very disappointing move by him!
https://x.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1808942736210280481?t=3f9GQYq8diI5zq2ondha-Q&s=19
It's a collaborative effort. They're not going to hire coaches ten Hag doesn't want to work with, it has to be coaches both sides agree on. What I will say is the changes to the backroom staff are most likely things Jason Wilcox recommended after doing his audit of our play style and coaching. ten Rouwelaar fits the style of goalkeeper coach I imagine Wilcox would like.
Guardiola at City has 6 Spanish coaches assisting him at the club. So in total they have 7 Spanish coaches and assistants just at first team level. And there's more Spaniards at the youth level.
It's not important where the people are from, but what's important is the intent to develop a system of play that's effective and proactive, which is what I believe these moves entail due to the credentials of the coaches and how they operate.
And one of the poster's above is bringing up Ashworth and co as coming into the club and should be bringing their own coaches into the club, because it will possibly help if the time came to change the head coach. But you wouldn't need to change the coaching staff if you already have the right coaches for a proactive style of play.
Now unless the idea is to bring Sam Allardyce to the club, then it makes absolute sense to have coaches who who will give the likes of Luis Enrique, Nagelsmann, Potter, etc the tools to succeed. They may bring in a first team coach but replacing a goalkeeping coach who adheres to your principles isn't something I would imagine they would look to change.
It's not important where the people are from, but what's important is the intent to develop a system of play that's effective and proactive, which is what I believe these moves entail due to the credentials of the coaches and how they operate.
And one of the poster's above is bringing up Ashworth and co as coming into the club and should be bringing their own coaches into the club, because it will possibly help if the time came to change the head coach. But you wouldn't need to change the coaching staff if you already have the right coaches for a proactive style of play.
Now unless the idea is to bring Sam Allardyce to the club, then it makes absolute sense to have coaches who who will give the likes of Luis Enrique, Nagelsmann, Potter, etc the tools to succeed. They may bring in a first team coach but replacing a goalkeeping coach who adheres to your principles isn't something I would imagine they would look to change.
I very much doubt Wilcox would've done that and ten Hag himself will likely have pushed for a goalkeeping coach who fits his ideals. Richard Hartis was someone he probably looked at closely in the last year and decided he needed a upgrade to how the keepers were being coached.
They are providing ETH with the environment necessary for success. This aligns with what Ratcliffe touched upon when the takeover was completed: we've tried different managers, and none have succeeded.
We know that part of Ashworth/Wilcox's job is to establish a footballing philosophy and vision that permeates the entire club. This also includes ensuring that the coaches are able to train the players according to this specific style of play.
One Rouwelaar
A lot of assumptions there that aren’t supported by any evidence other than the nationality of the people involved. It will all obviously work better if the head coach actually wants to work with the people brought in, but I am very confident that the club is heavily involved in - if not driving - these appointments. Let’s not forget that RVN has a long history with United.
If/When Ten Hag ends up leaving, it is probable - as is the case everywhere - that one or two of his closest assistant will go with him, as any incoming new manager usually wants to bring his trusted right hand(s) with him. But I would suspect that the bulk of the coaching staff will stay in place to ensure there is continuity of structure. Rene Hake is highly regarded by many, and known for his methodical, data driven approach. Goalkeeping coaches usually stick around through managerial changes, except in unique circumstances.
Benni Mcarthy appears to be leaving, along with Mitchell Van Der Gaag, so there is room on the bench for RVN and Hake. Last season we also lost the highly rated Eric Ramsey too, as he was poached to become the manager of Minnesota United. I imagine Hake will bring some intelligent tactical acumen to Ten Hag’s back room team, as well as vital opposition preparation work. RVN seems tactically astute too, and can easily suspect he will be working on helping our attacking patterns of play. There is no better coach for Hojlund to learn from than RVN. He’s a smart guy who not only knows how to play as a line leading #9, but also knows how to articulate his instructions clearly to players. It’s one thing knowing how to do it, it’s another to be able to teach it, and whenever I’ve heard him speak about football, I’ve found him quite impressive.
I don’t have any information to confirm what I am saying, none of us do, but I am very confident that Ashworth, Wilcox and Berrada are only bringing in coaches that they think will improve the club, and potentially have a long term future here - irrespective of who the manager is. All 3 have extensive contacts throughout football, and a deep knowledge of coaches and executives throughout the game. To suggest these appointments are just letting ETH run wild, flies in the face of everything we know - and have seen - from the people now in charge.
I didn’t hide that it was an assumption. But also I didn’t the athletic say these are ETH hires
The level of coaching turnover stories this past week or so makes me believe that the INEOS audit concluded that last seasons coaching staff weren’t good enough, or at the very least not ‘modern‘ enough.
Exiting this thread as the critics are about to lose their collective shite that we’re linked to/signing yet another Dutchman
To be fair I agree with you but I have this niggling feeling that we may be heading to those weird Dutch LVG Barca years. The players on paper Cocu Overmars and whoever else? They were good and the staff were good but it just didn’t work.
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Has there been anything else other than the two assistants? (RvN and Hake)
The story with the assistants and the dressing room dynamics was documented by The Athletic. It doesn't have much to do with the quality of the individuals themselves. This is the only other coaching appt AFAIK.
What’s the story of the assistants and the dressing room dynamics? I don’t have access to The Athletic.
It's complicated and people are reading it different ways but my takeaway was that INEOS thought Van Der Gaag + Ten Hag is bad guy + bad guy dynamic and players had some issues with them. They're trying to get more people management chops into the dressing room. Ten Hag basically rejected the idea of firing VdG and he does seem like a good coach so let's see what happens with him.
Hmm wasn't Jelle the name of a some all-conquering formation in CM?