Are there still people around who think he's a poacher? Bloody hell, catch up. For me, the best comparison is still to Lewandowski. A true all rounder, good at all aspects of the game and capable of any type of goal you can imagine; with pace, ball control and the mental strength to be a really clinical finisher as his particular strengths.
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- Appearances
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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He was better of playing full games back home than the odd few minutes here and there up front in America. LVG had about 10 payers vying for front three spots in the first team squad and his priority was deciding the futures of the likes of Chic and Kagawa.
I think if we don't promote the ad and give him a chance it will be criminal. He's dominating at the reserve level like Januzaj did. Well Januzaj wasn't this prolific but they both possess the air of class at that level that just looks a notch above anyone else. We don't need to buy a striker. We only need to nurture this talent and let him play second fiddle to Rooney, RVP and Welbeck. RVP has a couple years of greatness left in him and Rooney looks to be showing some real prowess under Van Gaal, so that's a few more years of him being our star man. Welbeck may yet still bloom into a wonderful talent.
The difference with Wilson is he's showing maturity that Welbeck didn't have at that age. Welbeck was phenomenal at that level as well but the difference is he had a great physique to help him with that which Wilson doesn't exactly have. Wilson is par for the norm for an English player at that age, yet he has the brains and nous which make him a formidable talent.
I read his contract is up this Summer? I heard the club are not worried about him renewing, is this true?
Imagine a home grown front three of Welbeck, Wilson and Januzaj for League Cup games next season.
Quiet confidence. I like it.
He doesn't have the silky dribbling skills of most modern strikers, but he is a classic English striker from yesteryear. He's got pace, knows how to use his body and has lethal finishing skills. Intelligent players who is two-footed as well. Only good things can come for this lad. Haven't been this excited for a prospect since Pogba. Of course, Januzaj was always a class above, but he has that talent perfect for being moulded by the likes of LVG.
His debut at first-team level cannot be underestimated. That was a level above him, but the way he coped is what gives me encouragement.
Wow... that would mean a resurgence in our academy since the early 90's. Let's credit Warren Joyce and Nicky Butt shall we? They've put in tremendous work to make our academy relevant again. By relevant, I mean a valid option to buying from buying outside the club.
Blackett and Michael Keane are other talents who look the part.
And Reece Hamez
And Reece Hamez
Of course. His rise has been nothing short of meteoric.
The credit has to go a bit further back than that. Butt came in in 2012. The overhaul that has led to these generations coming through at the moment (and since Pogba and Morrison et al in 2011, really) started in 2007.
Fair point. I mean that the two coaches have worked together in assessing how to nurture talents over the past two years and that's really helped speed things along.
Yep. Joyce does deserve particular praise because there were plenty of people who simply didn't think he was a capable enough coach when it came to the small technical players, given the preference for a more athletic style which he had shown at times earlier in his career with us. But he's proven that he's always just been about playing the style of football best suited to the abilities of the players at his disposal, and with more and more technically gifted generations coming through, we've been playing more and more technical football. He got plenty of criticism, so he definitely now deserves the corresponding kudos.
I could see him ending up as a winger under LVG, as his biggest strength seems to be his ability to run with the ball, and we're much weaker there than elsewhere:
Wilson---RVP/Rooney---Januzaj
-------------Mata---------
-----Herrera----NewCM---
Maybe by the end of next season even?
Wilson---RVP/Rooney---Januzaj
-------------Mata---------
-----Herrera----NewCM---
Maybe by the end of next season even?
Is the first touch for his fourth off his heel? I thought it was a slightly dodgy touch at first, looping up like that, but if it was behind him and he scooped it into his stride then it's very impressive.
Nah, his biggest strength is his goalscoring, of all types. Should never be played anywhere but as a #9, for me. Ok, wide striker maybe, but not a winger.
Nah, his biggest strength is his goalscoring, of all types. Should never be played anywhere but as a #9, for me. Ok, wide striker maybe, but not a winger.
I do like left-footed strikers; something about them gives them an edge sometimes over right footers.
I agree. I always thought that perhaps defenders and keepers are use to playing against right footers more often that a left-footer has an advantage by default.
Obviously teams do their homework and the defenders may be made aware that a striker is left footed, but it's still going likely to be instinctual to put someone onto their left foot. Keepers the same when they come to greet and try to read their body shape and guess how they're going to hit a ball and where. That one flash moment of trying to remind yourself the player is left footed, or the fact that you're automatically going to favour how a right footer would likely hit it could make all the difference.
It's probably bollocks and most professionals play against enough left footers in training that it really means shit all to them.
Obviously teams do their homework and the defenders may be made aware that a striker is left footed, but it's still going likely to be instinctual to put someone onto their left foot. Keepers the same when they come to greet and try to read their body shape and guess how they're going to hit a ball and where. That one flash moment of trying to remind yourself the player is left footed, or the fact that you're automatically going to favour how a right footer would likely hit it could make all the difference.
It's probably bollocks and most professionals play against enough left footers in training that it really means shit all to them.
Possibly an inverted winger who has a licence to cut inside and play in the middle - as well as take players on down the flanks like @NoPace suggested.
He would obviously be best playing right up top, though. He has a great natural goalscoring talent that will only get better with age!
It was the right decision that he wasn't on the tour
If he isn't injury-free and works very hard then he'll have a massive future
If he isn't injury-free and works very hard then he'll have a massive future
We've just the League Cup and the Premier League in 2014.....Van Persie makes maybe his comeback in the 2nd Round of the League Cup.......i doubt we'll see many youngsters in the League Cup this season
Being a poacher doesn't mean you can do nothing but put the ball in the net. Van Persie is our poacher, despite being technically excellent and often getting involved in the build up of moves. Wilson reminds me more of a young Michael Owen tbh because of his pace. dribbling ability and clinical finishing. Owen was a poacher, but hardly useless at anything else. Wilson would suit Van Persie's role far more than Rooney's imo. Massive potential regardless.
Fantastic goals. Has everything to make a great number 9 for us.
The kid's brilliant. Unbelievable talent. I'm usually skeptical about young players making the step up even when they have an abundance of talent but there's seemingly no way Wilson won't be a great player. He's been taking the piss in the youths and reserves for years (well kinda) and he's already got 2 premier league goals to his name
the best and most talented forward from our youth system for quite sometime for sure. great talent he is, got everything needed as a striker in his locker. the last time we got a youth striker who was too good at youth level and reserves(back then) was giuseppe rossi, although he was not from our academy as we signed him as a 16 year old from parma years back.
unluckily for rossi though, combination of injuries, poor loan moves and of course a huge lists of top class forwards in the team back then, it was tough for him to become a regular at united.
hope whatever moves van gaal make for wilson, it is going to benefit the lad. i guess he is ready to be our 4th forward already.
unluckily for rossi though, combination of injuries, poor loan moves and of course a huge lists of top class forwards in the team back then, it was tough for him to become a regular at united.
hope whatever moves van gaal make for wilson, it is going to benefit the lad. i guess he is ready to be our 4th forward already.
If Chicharito is sold, then this guy should be the 4th forward. No Champions League anyway.
The best move for the club might be to force Chicharito to stay one more season to give Wilson another year of development before he makes the step up.
No reason for the club to sell Hernandez and then have to buy a short term solution.
The best move for the club might be to force Chicharito to stay one more season to give Wilson another year of development before he makes the step up.
No reason for the club to sell Hernandez and then have to buy a short term solution.
All of us are proud of the class of 92 and yet we fail to acknowledge that for those players to make it, others had to leave. We allowed estabilished internationals like Sharpe, Parker, Kanchelskis and Ince to leave to give more playing time to Giggs, Gary Nev, Beckham and Scholes.
I believe that there's no better season to do the leap of faith then this season. We're out of the CL which would mean that there will be less games were experience is crucial. I'd say we should sell the likes of Kagawa, Fellaini, Anderson and Hernandez. We should promote Jesse Lingaard (ideal cover for Mata), Wilson and Powell and the money generated should be spent on bringing a quality DM and CB.
It was the right decision that he wasn't on the tour
If he isn't injury-free and works very hard then he'll have a massive future
We've just the League Cup and the Premier League in 2014.....Van Persie makes maybe his comeback in the 2nd Round of the League Cup.......i doubt we'll see many youngsters in the League Cup this season
Also the FA Cup.
The LC was more fun when the kids played, but with competition so fierce in the EPL, and the pressure to win any cup so high, that teams are taking the LC seriously these days
Hasn't helped that we've drawn EPL opposition for half our games in the LC recently either.
Agree with most of this except Lingard being Backup to Mata. Januzaj would be ahead of him for that and Powell as well, i'd guess. If we are sticking to 3-5-2 he needs a loan probably.
Selling Cheech and pushing Wilson into the squad seems bit of a simple decision to me at this point, as much as i love Cheech. LVG has not seem him though, so not sure he'd be in a position already to make that call though.
It would be best for both Cheech and Wilson though.
difficult one this....
Hernandez is obviously a great option from the bench but he's not overly happy with this arrangement and if you believe rumours he could be on his way.
Is Wilson ready for that role if we move Chicharito on - I'd expect him to get a fair chunk of football depending on RVPs fitness but he could get 20 minutes here and there when we are winning/chasing games.
I suppose Van Gaal also has the option of Rooney or Welbeck at 9 if RVP is out and Wilson could still perform that role.
I haven't watched him closely but he certainly seems to have more to his game than Macheda did who was prolific.
Hernandez is obviously a great option from the bench but he's not overly happy with this arrangement and if you believe rumours he could be on his way.
Is Wilson ready for that role if we move Chicharito on - I'd expect him to get a fair chunk of football depending on RVPs fitness but he could get 20 minutes here and there when we are winning/chasing games.
I suppose Van Gaal also has the option of Rooney or Welbeck at 9 if RVP is out and Wilson could still perform that role.
I haven't watched him closely but he certainly seems to have more to his game than Macheda did who was prolific.
I absolutely love this kid and I really want him to get a proper shot in the first team. I really don't want him to lose hope and go anywhere else. If chica goes he should definitely replace him in the first team!
If Shiji and Pea are sold those three are our back up forwards.It was the right decision that he wasn't on the tour
If he isn't injury-free and works very hard then he'll have a massive future
We've just the League Cup and the Premier League in 2014.....Van Persie makes maybe his comeback in the 2nd Round of the League Cup.......i doubt we'll see many youngsters in the League Cup this season
I'd say you're describing what most people would call a #9, not a poacher. Owen is arguably a poacher but RVP is not. A poacher is someone who doesn't contribute that much to the build-up, and mostly just hangs around in the box, and can always be relied upon to score if the ball falls to them.
Wilson has excellent build-up play, can score wonderful individual goals (both after long runs with the ball and with curlers and rockets from range), and lays on plenty of goals for other players too. He's definitely a #9, but not a 'poacher' for me.
If he's still with us now, it didn't expire this summer. Same for Lawrence. Contracts expire at the end of June if I recall correctly, and last I checked, it's August now.
I was just asking because I never heard about his contract being renewed. By the sound of it either have you. I don't want to hear your amazing skills of using a calender. Don't quote my post unless you know details
Wow, first goal in particular is eye-catching, but his composure and finishing are excellent.
I was just asking because I never heard about his contract being renewed. By the sound of it either have you. I don't want to hear your amazing skills of using a calender. Don't quote my post unless you know details
He's answered your question. Contracts expired in June, so if Wilson's was expiring and he's still with us then he got a new one. No need to be a dick just because you couldn't work that out.
A little bit, the Shearer at Blackburn was an absolute goal machine, his goal record there was unbelievable.
Absolutely love this player, becoming a real hero from the youth team, what better way to say to LVG LOOK AT ME by scoring 4 against our rivals who have a supposedly "amazing academy". I agree with others that he looks most like Lewandowski, I wonder if he has modeled his game on anybody, in a United shirt his style is mostly similar to RVP.
England fans should get excited too, hes showing the touch and approach of a genuine no.9 that England havent had for years.
England fans should get excited too, hes showing the touch and approach of a genuine no.9 that England havent had for years.
I'm not being a dick, I was asking a question that's all. Contracts expire in June? What does that mean
Has he signed a new contract and if he has for how long? Is he on similar money to Januzaj now ect. I was wondering if anybody had details instead of vague assumptions. I though people might know in here because I can't seem to find out online, that's all. Work that out? I'm trying to, thanks.