James Scanlon
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) talk about the proposed new stadium, season ticket prices, Sir Jim Ratcliffe and all things INEOS after the first year of their co-ownership.
They also discuss back-to-back victories vs. Real Sociedad and Leicester City - was this the best week for Amorim so far?
Nusa, Sørloth, Haaland and Bobb - there arent a lot of countries better than that (sorry Scanlon)
Well at least Haaland is good...
Scanlon better than all 4 put together and Odegaard
I hope we get a favourable FA Cup draw where we can have a look at him because he has really impressed imo. I honestly think Amorim will love him.
I only ever watch the highlights of the 'unders' games...but I can't understand why there's not more noise around Scanlon?
He looks really good from what I have seen, really natural footballer with a broad skill set. He's outscored Chido Obi Martin this season (who gets a tonne of press) whilst also being 2nd on our list of assists.
Can someone who watches the full games / watches regularly tell me why he's not getting more hype?
He looks really good from what I have seen, really natural footballer with a broad skill set. He's outscored Chido Obi Martin this season (who gets a tonne of press) whilst also being 2nd on our list of assists.
Can someone who watches the full games / watches regularly tell me why he's not getting more hype?
I think it's because he maybe isn't the most naturally talented. He isn't a flashy player, but very efficient. You could say that he doesn't have any real stand out attributes, but can do a number of things to a 'good' standard. Perhaps the type of player who his manager will love, but some fans don't fully appreciate.
Spot on. Scanlon isn't very technical, he doesn't curl freekicks into the top corner, he doesn't go past 3 men before scoring the goals. Scanlon however is probably one of the smartest players we have - he always finds space in the box, he always finds himself in the right position - combined with being a very good and hard-working footballer.
He is one of the players I think could go really far - probably further than many of the more hyped players
Thanks for the response.
Interesting though, because I do watch most of the highlights - and granted, by their very nature, they're only going to show the literal best bits...but he always looks smooth and technically adept to me.
Agree though, flashy players with little end product usually end-up being more hyped than simple but effective footballers, who usually go much further.
I am not saying he's great either, just seems odd you here people talk about Bianchieri, Obi Martin, Ibragimov, Mantado, the Fletchers' etc...but never really Scanlon
Reminds a lot of Milner
Seems strange there is not more hype about him on here. Every time I've watched he really stands out and must be closer to the first team than most of the under 18s
I like how clinical he is - you always feel that he's likely to convert a good amount of his chances. And he has a good ability to get in and around the box to get those opportunities.
I guess one main issue I'm thinking about with him is that he seems a McTominay type midfielder - doesn't have any real stand out physical or technical attributes other than that ability to get into the box and contribute goals, and difficult to find a position to utilise that in some formations given the limitations.
If he can transfer that ability to get into good goalscoring positions at first team level, then maybe our formation would be OK for him as one of the two 10's.
Certainly one of the many youngsters who are impressing, and who has an opportunity to make it at first team level. But obviously very difficult to see which ones will achieve it, and which will even get the genuine opportunities to try.
I guess one main issue I'm thinking about with him is that he seems a McTominay type midfielder - doesn't have any real stand out physical or technical attributes other than that ability to get into the box and contribute goals, and difficult to find a position to utilise that in some formations given the limitations.
If he can transfer that ability to get into good goalscoring positions at first team level, then maybe our formation would be OK for him as one of the two 10's.
Certainly one of the many youngsters who are impressing, and who has an opportunity to make it at first team level. But obviously very difficult to see which ones will achieve it, and which will even get the genuine opportunities to try.
I wouldn't say McTominay has no standout physical attributes. He's a 6'4 unit, who's both dominant in the air and can run a 5k in 16 minutes. Its a pretty desirable athletic profile.
I'm trying to rein in my enthusiasm over the likes of Scanlon, Obi and other academy players being drafted into the first team any time soon. Yes, Scanlon and co are putting in some decent performances, but the opposition is totally different. They're playing against lads learning their trade, not the physical specimens/athletes we see week in week out.
I'm all for bringing them into the fold to get a taste of match day experience, but without the hype and expectation. Feels like there's less chance of that happening now we're into the latter stages of the FA Cup and nothing else that includes comparatively 'weak' opposition.
I'm all for bringing them into the fold to get a taste of match day experience, but without the hype and expectation. Feels like there's less chance of that happening now we're into the latter stages of the FA Cup and nothing else that includes comparatively 'weak' opposition.
One of 3 new faces training with the first team today, under consideration for tomorrow with injuries piling up - Ugarte out, Mainoo and Collyer highly doubtful.
Worth mentioning that Scanlon may end up playing in a 3-4-3 formation at international level next week if interim boss Scott Wiseman sets up the same way he set up the women's national team earlier this month. They set up to attack as often as they could despite being a much weaker side than Moldova and only lost late on, which could be an indicator of how the men's team under Wiseman will play. Could see Scanlon play a pivotal role in that set-up and if he responds well to it and Gibraltar are able to get respectable results against Montenegro and Czechia, it might put more pressure on Amorim to consider him for United.
Its about time he got a chance
Oh Collyer just returned this weekend. I hope nothing serious
That post is from a month ago.
First matchday squad involvement, well deserved!
Hopefully gets a chance, has the positional sense to get into the right places to score that some of the first team attackers have lacked.
If we need a goal, he can get one for sure. Happy to see him with the first team.
Shame none of the academy kids got on but it didn't get put to bed until Sociedad collapsed (no pun intended for all you Spanish speakers) at the very end.
What a chance to give one of the lads the debut. The win would've felt even better with a debut for one of them
Had it been 3-1 on 80 mins or something, maybe Ruben would've thrown them on. But it wasn't until the 87th min so a bit late by then. Hoping that they still get their chance before the season's out.
Amorim hasn't done that with anyone except Obi, has he? Heaven was brought in directly as a rotational player with promised game time. None of the other academy players have been bedded in yet, even as a late substitute.
Still. A minute or two would mean the world to them and send a great signal to the rest.
Yeah, I wasn't expecting him to give any minutes to any of those kids who seem considered more as bench fillers due to injuries than genuine first team options at this stage.
Amorim seems to be adopting the same attitude as ETH - that any first team appearances aren't handed to youngsters for sentimental reasons, even just for a few seconds when the result is decided. The only ones getting minutes are the ones deemed genuinely there or thereabouts for first team action. The kids seemingly promoted by default just to fill a place on the bench during injury crisis aren't being given any minutes at all.
Although you'd think that of they are good enough to fill a place on the bench, they could be given a few minutes.
He could have given Dorgu the opportunity to receive a standing ovation and give Amass 3 minutes. Or Bruno and Fletcher for instance.
He could have given Dorgu the opportunity to receive a standing ovation and give Amass 3 minutes. Or Bruno and Fletcher for instance.
Yeah this was frustrating, we were 4-1 up with a few minutes to go. Stick on a few kids. Not sure why Amorim didn't do that.
We've done that with many players in the past decade and it hasn't worked out. Shoretire is a great example of how we threw someone in for the sake of it and he couldn't handle it. Now he's 21 and plays in the Greek division. If the players think it's too easy, it gets to their heads and/or their agent starts negotiating absurd contracts or touts them to other clubs.
Agree, Charlie Savage and Zidane Iqbal were others it a European game. It may be adds to the pressure. If a kid is good enough (e.g Heaven) he will be picked by Amorin when the right opportunity arises
Zidane Iqbal was a bench player for our u18s and couldn’t even make the squad for the big matches. But no, it was that 1 minute cameo against Young Boys that destroyed his chances of making it big.
He's doing well at Utrecht. who are in the top 5 in Holland
The point is that he was not as highly rated coming through the ranks as some people here seem to believe.
The reason they didn't make it isn't because they got some minutes in Europe. Iqbal had the talent but not the physicals, Savage probably had the physicals but not the required talent and Shoretire is just the sort of player that isn't good enough for a United breakout as a teenager but could maybe come good as he develops some game nous.
Got himself a nice goal today. Again right place right time when Biancheri fluffed his shot.