James Rodriguez / signs for Everton / 2 yr deal

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Still a very good player, could be a brilliant signing for a team of Everton's level. He could be like Payet at West Ham for them and carry them and I'm sure Ancelotti will find a good role for him.

People seem to be ignoring the fact he was in the Bundesliga team of the season just two seasons ago.
 
I would like to think he's not going to arrive with a poor attitude if he's joining under Ancelotti who he played for twice before, especially as Carlo has a fantastic reputation for making the big names feel loved. If we can surround him with Allan, Doucoure, Richarlison, DCL and Digne then that is a lot of work rate in his area of the pitch which will should hopefully suit him. I don't believe his work rate is too bad either for the type of player he is, just need him to stay fit and it will be a very exciting signing.
 
He'll be a top 5 player in the league in his first season and then he either leaves for one of the big clubs or mails it in for everton the rest of the way
 
BigDunc9 said:
I would like to think he's not going to arrive with a poor attitude if he's joining under Ancelotti who he played for twice before, especially as Carlo has a fantastic reputation for making the big names feel loved. If we can surround him with Allan, Doucoure, Richarlison, DCL and Digne then that is a lot of work rate in his area of the pitch which will should hopefully suit him. I don't believe his work rate is too bad either for the type of player he is, just need him to stay fit and it will be a very exciting signing.
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He's always struck me as professional. And Ancelotti, i'm sure, would know better than most people in football.

Excellent signing imo assuming there is no late hitch.

Linking him and Richarlison... must be exciting?
 
LawCharltonBest said:
He's always struck me as professional. And Ancelotti, i'm sure, would know better than most people in football.

Excellent signing imo assuming there is no late hitch.

Linking him and Richarlison... must be exciting?
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The reason we're offloading him like a dead weight is because you are so, so wrong :(
 
BigDunc9 said:
I would like to think he's not going to arrive with a poor attitude if he's joining under Ancelotti who he played for twice before, especially as Carlo has a fantastic reputation for making the big names feel loved. If we can surround him with Allan, Doucoure, Richarlison, DCL and Digne then that is a lot of work rate in his area of the pitch which will should hopefully suit him. I don't believe his work rate is too bad either for the type of player he is, just need him to stay fit and it will be a very exciting signing.
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It really isn't. I was suprised by some of his tacklings and how he chased a lost ball sometimes. Compared to Coutinho he could definitely cope better with very physical defenders.

BUT: James under Ancelotti was quite a disappointment for Bayern (similar to Coutinho) and only performed really, really good, when Heynckes took over again. That was when he really shined.
 
giorno said:
The reason we're offloading him like a dead weight is because you are so, so wrong :(
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I think we need to differentiate on that.

On the pitch he's no diva like Özil for example and is quite hard working for the player type he is.
But when he is not on the pitch, he really doesn't seem to be very professional. When he is not playing he is quick to complain to the media. In a recent interview he also said about his time at Bayern that he sometimes asked himself "what am i doing here" when it was cold in winter. In the next sentence he said he wants to play in England....well buddy, i have bad news for you :lol:
 
Yeah. He's a massive diva and managed to rub both Benitez and Zidane wrong so bad they didn't want to see him in picture. And he was still amazing every time they did play him, too. I mean Isco isn't even half the player and it's an understatement to say he's not exactly a model professional, and still it was James the managers didn't want
 
LawCharltonBest said:
He's always struck me as professional. And Ancelotti, i'm sure, would know better than most people in football.

Excellent signing imo assuming there is no late hitch.

Linking him and Richarlison... must be exciting?
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It should hopefully be. We was awful last season and was probably lucky to finish even 12th so for us to get a player of his calibre is quite a coup. @giorno and @BayernFan87 have gave me even more encouragement about it to with their comments.

It will be interesting to see how we line up next year if we manage to get all our targets. I think a diamond would allow us to get all our best players on the pitch in their best positions but you never really see that formation much anymore. I suppose if anyone can pull that formation off Ancelotti can.

........Gomes
Allan............. Doucoure
.........James
DCL .............Richarlison

I believe Digne has the quality to make that work down the left but we would a new attacking right back to go with him. I see we are being linked with Emerson (Barca player on loan at Betis) and Dalot from yourselves. I would be more than happy to take a chane on either of them. Hopefully it all comes off and it will be the most excited about the team i have been for a good few years.
 
Everton seem to be signing experienced pros with no sell on transfer value, Rodriguez 29, Allan 29, Doucoure 27. Its a strategy that may pay off on the pitch, though if it goes wrong, they will be left with not much value for future transfers from these guys. Will be hard to shift.
 
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This guy is a very good player. I just don't stand seeing such a huge talent being wasted this way.
 
He will be a good transfer for them because of Carlo.

Imagine someone telling you 3 years ago James and Carlo would be at Everton in 2020. Fair play to them. They aren't at their peaks, but Everton are punching above their weight. Allan is a good transfer as well
 
giorno said:
He'll be a top 5 player in the league in his first season and then he either leaves for one of the big clubs or mails it in for everton the rest of the way
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I would be astounded if he was in the top 5 PL players of the season.
 
dinostar77 said:
Everton seem to be signing experienced pros with no sell on transfer value, Rodriguez 29, Allan 29, Doucoure 27. Its a strategy that may pay off on the pitch, though if it goes wrong, they will be left with not much value for future transfers from these guys. Will be hard to shift.
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They need a fitness team that's going to get this lot into great shape or it could end in tears.
 
Their entire transfer strategy seems to be to sign players, who played for bigger clubs or have at least some international renown. Iwobi, Moise Kean, Michael Keane, Sandro Ramirez, Rooney#2 Andre Gomes, Delph, Sidibe, Yerry Mina, Digne, Zouma, Bernard, Gylfi, walcott, Schneiderlin, Cleverly, Lennon, Deulofeu and I am probably missing some. Not everyone of these is bad, but they just seem to buy every single one that is available. I had to double check that Welbeck never played for them. Ancelotti fits in well.

Of course its not going to work.
 
Ancelotti served up some awful football at times last season.

There is a small chance that Richarlison, Calvert Lewin and James click though, will be exciting or fall flat on its face.
 
James Rodriguez, Allan and Doucure is quite the transfer window. Carlo's cooking something at Goodison. One to keep an eye on...
 
dinostar77 said:
Everton seem to be signing experienced pros with no sell on transfer value, Rodriguez 29, Allan 29, Doucoure 27. Its a strategy that may pay off on the pitch, though if it goes wrong, they will be left with not much value for future transfers from these guys. Will be hard to shift.
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But they're getting Rodriguez for £20m, they wouldn't get him for that if he was 23, Allan is around the same, Doucoure around £25m. That's good value for three good players, if they do well you could sell Rodriguez for £20m again. Doucoure is 27, you could sell him for £25m again at 29 if he hits the ground running.

Sometimes you have to live in the present rather than constantly looking to the future. If they get Everton into Europe it will be worth it. 29, 29, 27 isn't that bad, it's not 33, 33, 31. If footballers look after themselves they can go on decently into their 30s
 
KeanoMagicHat said:
But they're getting Rodriguez for £20m, they wouldn't get him for that if he was 23, Allan is around the same, Doucoure around £25m. That's good value for three good players, if they do well you could sell Rodriguez for £20m again. Doucoure is 27, you could sell him for £25m again at 29 if he hits the ground running.

Sometimes you have to live in the present rather than constantly looking to the future. If they get Everton into Europe it will be worth it. 29, 29, 27 isn't that bad, it's not 33, 33, 31. If footballers look after themselves they can go on decently into their 30s
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It is not football manager 2020. Ancelotti needs players that can help him improve the team now, and he is on a budget, just like Arteta. You can't look for resale value and for the future, if you lose your job next season.
 
giorno said:
He'll be a top 5 player in the league in his first season and then he either leaves for one of the big clubs or mails it in for everton the rest of the way
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So he's going to be better than 9 players from this list in his debut season in a pretty average everton side? :

De Bryune
Salah
Trent
Mane
Bruno Fernandes
Havertz
Aguero
Sterling
VVD
Kane
Son
Rashford
Martial
Auba

i'd be really really surprised if that was the case.
 
Signed. For 20mil!

Have to say, if Sancho doesn't work out, I feel like he would have been able to do a job for us on the right at that price, as a stop gap.
 
Thank you Everton.

I Wish Everton the best with James and hope he does well for them.

However I think they will be greatly disappointed by his performances.
 
Being so far away, what is the nightlife like in Liverpool? I read that was a problem in Madrid, but however nothing much came from Munich.
 
Good luck James.Hopefully Ancelotti will get the most out of him.
Isn't the contract very short? Until 2022 with option for an extra year
 
carvajal said:
Good luck James.Hopefully Ancelotti will get the most out of him.
Isn't the contract very short? Until 2022 with option for an extra year
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I think we are being cautious with giving big contracts to some players because of the previous long term contracts we have had that haven’t worked out. Better to lose them for nothing after two or three years if they’re amazing for us than have a crap player with us for 4-5 years that we can’t get rid of.

I don’t mind these signings either as we needed the exact things both him and Allan will provide instantly. We don’t need a long term project right now, we need instant results.
 
carvajal said:
Good luck James.Hopefully Ancelotti will get the most out of him.
Isn't the contract very short? Until 2022 with option for an extra year
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He only got a 2 year deal.

Probably because Everton knows he can go either way and they probably do not want to hang on him if he is a flop. He has certainly not been cheap. Probably got 10 mil euros pr. year. deal.

On the other hand if he has a great season he might move on next season already.
 
SilentWitness said:
I think we are being cautious with giving big contracts to some players because of the previous long term contracts we have had that haven’t worked out. Better to lose them for nothing after two or three years if they’re amazing for us than have a crap player with us for 4-5 years that we can’t get rid of.

I don’t mind these signings either as we needed the exact things both him and Allan will provide instantly. We don’t need a long term project right now, we need instant results.
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I hope you get those instant results. James needs love and feel like the leader, I think it's a good team for him. He needs a midfielder to protect him. Then with set pieces, free kicks, penalties and assists I think he will ensure good numbers.
Madridista2000 said:
He only got a 2 year deal.

Probably because Everton knows he can go either way and they probably do not want to hang on him if he is a flop. He has certainly not been cheap. Probably got 10 mil euros pr. year. deal.

On the other hand if he has a great season he might move on next season already.
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I wonder how he will adapt.He has to stop with that nonsense about the weather and the work ethics and focus in football.
By the way, good deal for us considering he was in the last year
 
Meh. I get the impression he's already washed up by now.
 
carvajal said:
Good luck James.Hopefully Ancelotti will get the most out of him.
Isn't the contract very short? Until 2022 with option for an extra year
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Probably protecting himself a little. If he hates it then easier to get him out. If he goes there and is a raging success then easier for someone to buy him.
 
carvajal said:
I hope you get those instant results. James needs love and feel like the leader, I think it's a good team for him. He needs a midfielder to protect him. Then with set pieces, free kicks, penalties and assists I think he will ensure good numbers.

I wonder how he will adapt.He has to stop with that nonsense about the weather and the work ethics and focus in football.
By the way, good deal for us considering he was in the last year
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It's a brilliant deal for us tbh. James was one of the best paid. Not in Zidane planes and he had started making noise in the media.

He is not a bad player. I hope for Everton that he does well. If he is played behind the attackers he has a better end product then Isco.

Now if someone could take Bale it would be a brilliant summer for us.
 
He’s a fantastic player. Once a player drifts out of the headlines for a bit, people just lazily start calling them rubbish. Check his records throughout his career. His final pass is probably behind only Messi and perhaps Ozil in recent times. And he’s a consistent goalscorer.

That said, I don’t expect anything from him at Everton. They are the West Ham of the North, a soulless with a high turnover of players for lots of money who come in and out for a cheque every season. New managers, new players every year. If he joined a team like Wolves or Leicester, I’d be expecting him to be as good as anyone in the league, as they are teams with a plan. Arsenal would have been good too, and even Spurs, as he’s better than Alli.
 
BayernFan87 said:
at Bayern that he sometimes asked himself "what am i doing here" when it was cold in winter. In the next sentence he said he wants to play in England....well buddy, i have bad news for you :lol:
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I lived in southern Germany for 2 years. Visited Munich a lot, which is actually my favourite city in Germany.

Winter? It's waay waay colder in Germany. Really harsh winters that England simply does not have. People think it's colder in England in winter but it's actually mild in winter in comparison.
 
This will either be very good or a candidate to the biggest flop in P.L history
 
Rozay said:
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That said, I don’t expect anything from him at Everton. They are the West Ham of the North, a soulless with a high turnover of players for lots of money who come in and out for a cheque every season. New managers, new players every year. If he joined a team like Wo.
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How long have you been watching football? Five years?

Everton have won 9 league titles.
West Ham zero

Everton have finished in the top 6, 45x in their history.

West Ham? 5.

The last five seasons Everton have had five different managers and have lost focus spending too much on some players. Before that, they kept players for years. that doesn't make them all of a sudden " the West Ham of the north."
 
debunkology said:
How long have you been watching football? Five years?

Everton have won 9 league titles.
West Ham zero

Everton have finished in the top 6, 45x in their history.

West Ham? 5.

The last five seasons Everton have had five different managers and have lost focus spending too much on some players. Before that, they kept players for years. that doesn't make them all of a sudden " the West Ham of the north."
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What fecking relevance does the goals Dixie Dean scored for them have to do with them having lost their way now? The whole point is in your last line. They have ‘all of a sudden’ become the West Ham of the north. Whether both clubs have been on the same trajectory for 100 years is irrelevant. Even under Moyes, the team had stability and identity. Since then, you don’t know what sort of performance to expect one week to the next, and I start with a default position of expecting their signings to not deliver. Just like West Ham. I think their players join for the wrong reasons.
 
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