You could say there's no time to wait.
Film James Bond: No Time to Die
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For someone with no time he isn’t half dragging this out
Should just release it on a streaming service or make it available to buy as a rental on Sky/Rakuten TV etc. Even if they wait for cinemas to reopen, I really doubt they’ll do anywhere near the same numbers pre-Covid.
Absolutely this. Even if the cinemas were open with Bond running today I wouldn’t go. I’d rather wait for the digital release.
They are looking at profit only
Wonder what their budget was that they are looking at maximizing profits to the point they will keep delaying to make people pay as much as possible (they are obviously worried about people ripping / downloading good copies from a stream)
Wonder what their budget was that they are looking at maximizing profits to the point they will keep delaying to make people pay as much as possible (they are obviously worried about people ripping / downloading good copies from a stream)
Can’t really blame them, you would hope that they use this time to get the reboot sorted behind the scenes.
Feck the streaming services, save the cinema!
I for one hope this will mean the cinema coming back with a bang, I go 2-3 times a week and much prefer it to watching films at home, it's not even close.
The recliner seating at Odeon and new updated Showcase venues had given a boost to cinemas and whilst it will take a while to get going again, let's be honest most of the stuff available to stream is rubbish!
If they can have a big relaunch with Bond at the forefront then that's great.
I for one hope this will mean the cinema coming back with a bang, I go 2-3 times a week and much prefer it to watching films at home, it's not even close.
The recliner seating at Odeon and new updated Showcase venues had given a boost to cinemas and whilst it will take a while to get going again, let's be honest most of the stuff available to stream is rubbish!
If they can have a big relaunch with Bond at the forefront then that's great.
Assuming it's not just about the availability of streaming. It'll be impacting their advertising campaign for sure as people are out less and there's less foot traffic to see it plastered on the sides of buses, etc.
Isn't the Bond franchise second only to MCU these days for revenue? I understand why they're doing it, but judging by cinema attendance* here when they were allowed to be open they'll be lucky if there's a decent number of screens left to distribute it to. The fact that WB have gone streaming first for all 2021 titles speaks volumes and I guess they're making sufficient money releasing that way.
*when Tenet came out and later WW1984, I looked to go to my local Odeon (didn't bother ultimately), but there were literally only three or four booked seats per screening for both those titles right up until showtime. Similarly, around the back of last year, Odeon ran a massive advertising campaign pleading for cinemagoers, something I've never seen or heard of for them around here. They're fecked.
*when Tenet came out and later WW1984, I looked to go to my local Odeon (didn't bother ultimately), but there were literally only three or four booked seats per screening for both those titles right up until showtime. Similarly, around the back of last year, Odeon ran a massive advertising campaign pleading for cinemagoers, something I've never seen or heard of for them around here. They're fecked.
Are you saying that all things that involve gathering indoors are fecked by the same reasoning? Genuine question.
There doesn't appear to be any question that people will flood back to pubs, restaurants and football stadiums etc...
People weren't going to the cinema between lockdowns because either they didn't feel safe, there wasn't a film out which they fancied seeing or perhaps they just wanted to hibernate until this has all blown over.
Once the vaccine is out there and doing its job and social places like the cinema are declared safe again, there's no reason for people not to flock back to the cinema.
Watching a film via streaming isn't even 1% of the experience of going to a cinema and if they go in to decline then shame on this generation, real film fans go to the cinema for new releases.
There doesn't appear to be any question that people will flood back to pubs, restaurants and football stadiums etc...
People weren't going to the cinema between lockdowns because either they didn't feel safe, there wasn't a film out which they fancied seeing or perhaps they just wanted to hibernate until this has all blown over.
Once the vaccine is out there and doing its job and social places like the cinema are declared safe again, there's no reason for people not to flock back to the cinema.
Watching a film via streaming isn't even 1% of the experience of going to a cinema and if they go in to decline then shame on this generation, real film fans go to the cinema for new releases.
I think it's a question of what the public will risk. Between lockdowns here in Spain, life appeared pretty close to normal, with bars, cafes and terraces as busy as you would expect them to be. Bars and so on are different to cinema and attract a much wider demographic.
A big release needs a certain number of screens to rake in the cash and I can't believe that hundreds if not thousands of screens worldwide are not going to have to shut permanently before they're allowed to open back up properly, which reduces the studio's outlet dramatically. Worst case is that it becomes economically unviable (like now) to release exclusively on the big screen. If studios start going with simultaneous releases (cinema and digital) that will further jeopardise the viability of the cinemas and it becomes a vicious circle.
I agree that there's a gulf between going to the cinema and watching in your lounge, but by way of plucking figures out of my arse, I'd guess that at least half of the people who go to the cinema to see a new release, would happily watch it at home if it was available at the same time.
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I'd also be interested to see the numbers for the many people who, like me, basically never get to the cinema for whatever reason but would watch at home for a decent price.
By all accounts, the stuff that's been released like that has done very well hence Warner Bros scheduling everything slated for this year to get a streaming release at launch.
That said, there's quite a lot of kickback with the rental prices that have been charged since Covid for new streaming releases that are available at the same time as (or instead of) a cinema release from what I've seen, but presumably plenty of people are happy to pay, too: £15.99 on iTunes and Amazon (I think) for any that could be classed as big releases.
Personally, I don't think it's too unreasonable - it would be considerably more for a family to go to the cinema and see the same movie but I expect in part it depends on what you're able to watch it on. 16 quid to watch on a phone is a bit shit.
It appears, the film could now be pushed back until 2022 in order to recoup it's outlay.
Having originally been set to release in October 2019, Daniel Craig’s fifth and final James Bond movie is currently set for a September 30 debut in UK cinemas. While US movie theatres are due to start screening the blockbuster a week later. But now a new report on No Time To Die’s box office prospects claims they are not looking profitable – if the current release date goes ahead.
According to James Bond news website MI6 HQ, No Time To Die is set to be the most expensive James Bond movie ever made.
The last time the cost of the new 007 movie were publicly filed with Companies House in the UK, the total came to £214 million, having grown from £199.5 million due to interest charges.
And a year later that since now risen to around £226 million, which converted to US dollars is around $314 million.
Once advertising costs have been added, even at the lower end it comes to $464 million – the amount of total revenue that must be made for the film to be profitable.
Now given that the box office is split between the cinematic exhibitor and the film’s distributors, MGM will expect to make around 50 per cent of every dollar spent on cinema tickets worldwide.
So No Time To Die would now need to make at least $928 million worldwide to not lose money, something no movie has achieved since the pandemic began.
For example, Fast and Furious 9, from Vin Diesel’s car franchise that has hit the billion-dollar mark the last few outing, has so far only made $642 million since its release in June.
MI6 HQ pointed out that the 2021 box office has seen huge movies like Fast 9 and Black Widow see steep drop-offs in second-week ticket sales despite little completion.
MI6 HQ concluded: “All the evidence points to the probability that if No Time To Die is released in October 2021, it will fall short of the $928m worldwide box office it needs to break even.
“Even if it does somehow make a profit, it is likely to be the least successful James Bond film in terms of return on investment.”
Taken from Daily Express.
Having originally been set to release in October 2019, Daniel Craig’s fifth and final James Bond movie is currently set for a September 30 debut in UK cinemas. While US movie theatres are due to start screening the blockbuster a week later. But now a new report on No Time To Die’s box office prospects claims they are not looking profitable – if the current release date goes ahead.
According to James Bond news website MI6 HQ, No Time To Die is set to be the most expensive James Bond movie ever made.
The last time the cost of the new 007 movie were publicly filed with Companies House in the UK, the total came to £214 million, having grown from £199.5 million due to interest charges.
And a year later that since now risen to around £226 million, which converted to US dollars is around $314 million.
Once advertising costs have been added, even at the lower end it comes to $464 million – the amount of total revenue that must be made for the film to be profitable.
Now given that the box office is split between the cinematic exhibitor and the film’s distributors, MGM will expect to make around 50 per cent of every dollar spent on cinema tickets worldwide.
So No Time To Die would now need to make at least $928 million worldwide to not lose money, something no movie has achieved since the pandemic began.
For example, Fast and Furious 9, from Vin Diesel’s car franchise that has hit the billion-dollar mark the last few outing, has so far only made $642 million since its release in June.
MI6 HQ pointed out that the 2021 box office has seen huge movies like Fast 9 and Black Widow see steep drop-offs in second-week ticket sales despite little completion.
MI6 HQ concluded: “All the evidence points to the probability that if No Time To Die is released in October 2021, it will fall short of the $928m worldwide box office it needs to break even.
“Even if it does somehow make a profit, it is likely to be the least successful James Bond film in terms of return on investment.”
Taken from Daily Express.
They should definitely wait until more cinemas have gone under. That’ll help them.
I love watching Bond in Cinema, but at this point, happy to stream it at home.
Sadly that won't happen due to piracy and they will never make their money back.
Sadly that won't happen due to piracy and they will never make their money back.
Oh ffs. Just want to get it over with, so I don’t have to see the Ad for the millionth time!
Ffs, just stream it already!
I hate James Bond so I'm hoping the franchise dies a bloody death.
I'll watch James Bond : Dies a Bloody Death though.
I'll watch James Bond : Dies a Bloody Death though.
They need to be banned from using the word die in future films. Too many times now.
Well said.
I enjoyed them as a youngster but it is all so outdated now.
Tomorrow Never Dies was a classic.
They should release it in cinemas for a limited run of 3 days to hype it up only in certain ones though
Die another day was also a classic
that must be one of the absolute worst onesI admired DR.No's cinematography and general design. its got a classy aesthetic about it.
But I was never enamoured with Connery's as a actor because, as I came late to the party , I always new he was just abit of a dick.
He practiced his Bond technique of slapping women out on his first wife.
I've enjoyed the odd later one - Casino Royale is one but some of them have been absolute bollocks.
Quantum of Solace has been erased by my brain cells only leaving a trace memory to never watch it again.
Still think Skyfall is probably the best Bond film.
Casino Royale is better for me, but Skyfall is definitely up there!
Dr Nowt-made at the box office.
Yeah, that's a belter too.
Two good ones, two terrible ones from Craig so far. Quantum of Solace being the worst by a distance.
Of the modern films, Casino Royale & Skyfall are good.
To be fair, Quantum is just basically the ending of Casino Royale, it's practically one complete storyline and could easily have been just a 3 odd hour movie.
Casino Royale and the bit on the train about which brand of watch Bond was wearing couldn't have been more obvious if Bond turned to the camera and winked. If it wasn't for the fact that Eva Green was in that scene, and my attention wasn't on which jams I would cover her with, I would've probably feigned insult and left the cinema without taking my rubbish with me.
Will it be available to stream when it does come out or is it just in the cinemas?
That was handled about as well as possible, no? Considering.
Pretty likely, considering who bought MGM.
More likely to wait for launch of IMDB Channel