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If it revolves around Sancho putting pressure on Dortmund to leave and he doesnt, then you have to ask does he really want to play for Utd?
87 was pretty good imo, Maguire got a 79 though...
I don't get that though... Surely United have to have permission from Dortmund to discuss terms with Sancho and the sorts? Wouldn't we be reported for tapping up if we were to discuss terms without Dortmund agreeing for us to do so?Given Dortmund's stance, why would United continue to pursue Sancho? Logically speaking, they would have ended their interest as soon as Dortmund stated that he wasn't for sale.
My guess it that United have received more encouraging messages from Sancho's agent, so they're continuing on because of that. The club might be using Sancho's agent to pressure Dortmund sort of like how Raiola "pressured" Dortmund into selling Mkhitaryan.
Zaha did strike me as a homebody, someone who plays his best football in London, and a certain part of London at that!
But then he seemed likely to go Everton last summer, until that got called off on the fee.
Could we see him at Dortmund? Not so sure myself.
But i'm certain Palace won't be trying to charge 70m this summer.
But are Dortmund in the habit of paying out 30-40m for the mid career types like Zaha? Don't think so. But maybe the "Itk" meant another player. And I'm just remembering someone else saying Zaha ages back.
Zaha did strike me as a homebody, someone who plays his best football in London, and a certain part of London at that!
But then he seemed likely to go Everton last summer, until that got called off on the fee.
Could we see him at Dortmund? Not so sure myself.
But i'm certain Palace won't be trying to charge 70m this summer.
But are Dortmund in the habit of paying out 30-40m for the mid career types like Zaha? Don't think so. But maybe the "Itk" meant another player. And I'm just remembering someone else saying Zaha ages back.
Of course he didn’t. His official rating isn’t out yet. He’s almost definitely an 82-84.87 was pretty good imo, Maguire got a 79 though...
Could make sense.
Almost all their good plays are sold as villains. Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang and Dembele all left as the bad guysThis was always going to happen like this.
They get to save face as it was only when the player expressly said he wanted to go that they accepted the bid, and then Sancho is the bad guy from their perspective.
- We agree everything with the player
- We negotiate with Dortmund
- We make an official bid
- They reject the bid
- Sancho makes a transfer request
- Dortmund accept
We get the player, Sancho gets his move, Dortmund safe face, everyone’s a winner.
Who the feck is Funke Sport?
Disclaimer: my previous post was made to continue and drag on the notion that Dortmund have made Sancho non-negotiableI don't get that though... Surely United have to have permission from Dortmund to discuss terms with Sancho and the sorts? Wouldn't we be reported for tapping up if we were to discuss terms without Dortmund agreeing for us to do so?
Plus what would be the point in them saying "Sure - Go ahead and discuss terms with him and his agent, but we're not selling even if you do agree on something". It'd make absolutely no sense for both sides? Either as others have said, this is an attempt to make Sancho the bad guy by trying to force a move, or it's putting pressure on United to offer what they want so they can turn round, accept the offer and again say that Sancho wanted to leave, so our hands were tied - but we got a great deal!
Of course he didn’t. His official rating isn’t out yet. He’s almost definitely an 82-84.
This was always going to happen like this.
They get to save face as it was only when the player expressly said he wanted to go that they accepted the bid, and then Sancho is the bad guy from their perspective.
- We agree everything with the player
- We negotiate with Dortmund
- We make an official bid
- They reject the bid
- Sancho makes a transfer request
- Dortmund accept
We get the player, Sancho gets his move, Dortmund safe face, everyone’s a winner.
This is a fake image. His card hasn’t been announced.
He seems to have dropped massively.
ON Topic: This is obviously a big pile of bollocks from BVB to get United to pay up. Sancho will most certainly push for a move once the bid is put in.
Do Dortmund need to "save face" when they're getting somewhere around 100m for a player?!
Do Dortmund need to "save face" when they're getting somewhere around 100m for a player?!
Thats what i thought, we've obviously been given permission in the past, but surely after the 'deadline' had passed, Dormund would have said, if they were serious about not selling, "thats it, deal wasn't done, we're not selling no matter what, we withdraw permission, he's staying our player".Disclaimer: my previous post was made to continue and drag on the notion that Dortmund have made Sancho non-negotiable
They would've already had permission to speak to Sancho before the August 10 "deadline", and I'm sure that they would have maintained contacts afterwards as well. If United are still in touch with the agent, surely that means that Dortmund are still open to selling him (we wouldn't be otherwise lest we want to risk being accused of tapping up Sancho).
Dortmund can maintain their hard stance given that we've yet to submit an official offer to Dortmund, and they're well within their rights to do so. We'll see what happens when United do submit a formal offer to them.
It's not really that they need to, but they have a history of doing so.Do Dortmund need to "save face" when they're getting somewhere around 100m for a player?!
Resident ITK has told us to keep it out.I was following along, but my screen refreshed and now I am completely confused, What are we doing with our cocks and fists? still out and in? or are we back to in and out? muppeting is exhausting
Resident ITK has told us to keep it out.
Massimo De Culo
87 was pretty good imo, Maguire got a 79 though...
Dortmund are talking out of their arse.Why has personal terms been agreed with someone not bothered about moving?
Nope. Cocks out for tonight. Thread ban if not. Will explain after the fact.
COCKS OUT
What’s the point with all the teasing mate?Look back at who I said Dortmund were after to replace Sancho then watch what happens tonight/Friday.
Nope. Cocks out for tonight. Thread ban if not. Will explain after the fact.
COCKS OUT
He seems to have dropped massively.
ON Topic: This is obviously a big pile of bollocks from BVB to get United to pay up. Sancho will most certainly push for a move once the bid is put in.
I do think he will have to submit a transfer request.
Dortmund are talking out of their arse.
Cocks back in, then.