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Feckin’ amateur muppets, bro.And you believe there has been no contact between the clubs at all? Seriously?
Feckin’ amateur muppets, bro.And you believe there has been no contact between the clubs at all? Seriously?
The mental capacity of that post is lacking as buying clubs look at past deals to guage how much they should pay, especially those that did not work out.
Sancho is hardly an international at 8 or 9 caps so again 100mil is far too much for him, great talent yes but we should not overpay.
Funny tagging like that when you are on the same redcafe peddling your views but open your mind mate and understand if the eventual transfer fee was only down to the selling club then Sancho would have to be the only RW in the world and our club's finance department full of negotiation novices.
There would be no logic. Much like there’s no logic in waiting for a release clause to lapse and the pay more for a player. Woodward doesn’t negotiate following logic and this isn’t the first time there have been whispers of Woodward agreeing a deal and then trying to lowball afterwards.How would he have room to interject on something that had been more or less agreed (as Harris is claiming)? And what would be the logic from his perspective? According to Harris it's about the structure of a 60 million Euro payment after the initial 60 mill so why bother interjecting at the last minute? It makes no sense, except from the perspective of someone trying to cover up that they were premature with their transfer claims.
Yeah I don't get why Woodward is getting a lot of stick right now. This is really proof that most journos no feck all or atleast know what they are allowed to.Poor Woodward
"Let's get the facts straight"
Goes on to post speculation, conjecture and opinion but in bullet-point format.
I’m sure we are willing to meet that price. The problem according to many journalists is, how much up front we are paying rather than yearly instalments.That is what I don´t get about these comparisions. For Dortmund´s officials to backtrack on their comments, there had always been the need of a narrative change to explain it. In all three cited cases the narrative shift was always the player directly or via agents blatantly and agressively forcing a move. Sancho could do this aswell and from where I stand he needs to this for a transfer to happen this Summer after Zorcs clear declarations today.
Dortmund went to great lengths to lower the chances of that happening, though. When I saw how upfront and transparent they were with their demands (which is in stark contrast to their usual transfer dealings) I already had the strong assumption which with the added news of his real contract length has become pretty much a certainty for me: the existence of a gentlement agreement between Sancho and Dortmund. A set of terms under which Sancho was allowed to return to the EPL. An unofficial release clause basically. For this Summer it was 120 Mil. € with the expire date of the start of the proper pre season. That is why the figure floated around so early and never changed in one direction or the other. In making their demands that publically and enter negotiations about payment models and terms they held their end of the bargain. Now they will see if Sancho follows suit.
No doubt, but if there was no intention to pay it in the first place, it raises the question of why this whole saga happened in the first place.
They have been consistent with their demands the whole time.
There is no requirement for a seller to reduce their demands, it may or may not be unrealistic and scare off potential suitors, but I don't think that's that bad a scenario for them currently
Out to evens to sign him on SkyBet now.....very tempted.
Let's get the facts straight.
- Ed is a headless thicko who didn't even bother knowing the contract details of a player he and his team chased for at least one month. The only thing he can do well is to find sponsorship deals for the club. He is clueless about football-related matters.
- Sancho has said nothing in this entire saga with any seriousness. The media kept feeding all of us a lot of bullshit.
- Seemingly, Havertz isn't being sold for anything less than 90m, despite the player wanting to leave the club. If rumours can be believed, he has even put up a formal transfer request. Sancho is a better-quality player with a higher ceiling. He is much more marketable in the English Premier League. He hasn't publicly stated anything about wanting to leave Dortmund. He is a year younger than Havertz. Why should he not be worth 120m?
- If Sancho has another stellar season in Germany, I don't think we can afford him next season. It will be one of the big two oil clubs, or maybe, Madrid. So the Cafe can keep dreaming like we do best!
- I am sure Ed doesn't have a backup plan. Headless thicko. We will run around a few other players for the next month or two and finally end up signing someone mediocre, or just about okay, for a hefty sum. That is so typical.
#freeSancho
Nah. We are pretty rubbish at lots of different things. The last few years have shown that. Signing Sancho wouldn't change the past but it might indicate we're now heading in a better direction.This must be one of the dumbest posts I read on the Caf. Congratulations.
This forum at 9am this morning - "We all know what Zorc is going to say, it's fine doesn't mean anything"
*Zorc says what everyone already knew was coming*
Now: MELTDOWWWWNNNNNN
No need to panic about this one.
If we get him, great. If not, Rashford, Martial and Greenwood have been more than good enough to get the chance to kick on next season.
Get some good cover in for them and we don’t have to worry about paying 100 million or whatever on one player.
Problem is we have Ed in charge of our cardsPay up or get out... They hold all the cards.
He didn't get anything wrong. He said personal terms were agreed, he never once mentioned anything about a contract.And Romano getting a feckin KEY piece of information wrong (Sancho’s contract) is just swept under the rug for you I guess fella?
Of course he knows the minute by minute updates on the negotiations but they didn’t bother to tell him the length of the contract he’s currently in?? Laughable.
c’mon give it up. My neighbour knows as much as Romano, I told you earlier
Yes but woody has been doing this shit for over 7 years. Lets see if he has an ace up his sleevePay up or get out... They hold all the cards.
BasicallyThis forum at 9am this morning - "We all know what Zorc is going to say, it's fine doesn't mean anything"
*Zorc says what everyone already knew was coming*
Now: MELTDOWWWWNNNNNN
The fact that people said Traore and Zaha as potential alternatives is insanely depressing in itself.
More midtable players. Yay.
I’m sure our scouts can find a right winger that can compete with Greenwood without having to shell out 100 million. We’re buggered if not.Who is good cover that will cost small money, please no more Dan James types because he is terrible. Players cost shit loads when we are involved, rather pay top whack for proven quality myself.
Dembele who played 7 times and Felix who played 1 game for their national teams before transfers means they were national team regulars. Sancho was played 8 or 9 games it hardly an international
We'll probably go for Josh King, Grealish and some random center back like Pau Torres if we don't get Sancho. Would 100% rather just Sancho, as that would push us up a level vs just staying at a top 4 challenger level with those others.Who is good cover that will cost small money, please no more Dan James types because he is terrible. Players cost shit loads when we are involved, rather pay top whack for proven quality myself.
Let's get the facts straight.
- Ed is a headless thicko who didn't even bother knowing the contract details of a player he and his team chased for at least one month. The only thing he can do well is to find sponsorship deals for the club. He is clueless about football-related matters.
- Sancho has said nothing in this entire saga with any seriousness. The media kept feeding all of us a lot of bullshit.
- Seemingly, Havertz isn't being sold for anything less than 90m, despite the player wanting to leave the club. If rumours can be believed, he has even put up a formal transfer request. Sancho is a better-quality player with a higher ceiling. He is much more marketable in the English Premier League. He hasn't publicly stated anything about wanting to leave Dortmund. He is a year younger than Havertz. Why should he not be worth 120m?
- If Sancho has another stellar season in Germany, I don't think we can afford him next season. It will be one of the big two oil clubs, or maybe, Madrid. So the Cafe can keep dreaming like we do best!
- I am sure Ed doesn't have a backup plan. Headless thicko. We will run around a few other players for the next month or two and finally end up signing someone mediocre, or just about okay, for a hefty sum. That is so typical.
Let's get the facts straight.
- Ed is a headless thicko who didn't even bother knowing the contract details of a player he and his team chased for at least one month. The only thing he can do well is to find sponsorship deals for the club. He is clueless about football-related matters.
- Sancho has said nothing in this entire saga with any seriousness. The media kept feeding all of us a lot of bullshit.
- Seemingly, Havertz isn't being sold for anything less than 90m, despite the player wanting to leave the club. If rumours can be believed, he has even put up a formal transfer request. Sancho is a better-quality player with a higher ceiling. He is much more marketable in the English Premier League. He hasn't publicly stated anything about wanting to leave Dortmund. He is a year younger than Havertz. Why should he not be worth 120m?
- If Sancho has another stellar season in Germany, I don't think we can afford him next season. It will be one of the big two oil clubs, or maybe, Madrid. So the Cafe can keep dreaming like we do best!
- I am sure Ed doesn't have a backup plan. Headless thicko. We will run around a few other players for the next month or two and finally end up signing someone mediocre, or just about okay, for a hefty sum. That is so typical.
Those are Arsenal type signingsFacts. Every time I see people suggesting Traore my stomach turns, and I start getting headaches.