Well they would say that after the reports, what else is going to generate clicks
We just don't know what'll happen but Woodward made a clear point of saying we have 90m cash in the bank and up to 150m through credit.
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We just don't know what'll happen but Woodward made a clear point of saying we have 90m cash in the bank and up to 150m through credit.
I'm not sure we have as much as fans think. The Glazer debt rose today by £130 million. A 40% increase on our total debt which stands at £430 million, which means in their 15 years of ownership they have managed to clear £100 million so far from the original debt of £525 million.
Hopefully we land Jude Bellingham, but Sancho is not happening this summer.
Sancho is one of their highest paid players and his replacement will probably not sign a similar contract specially after this pandemic.
BVB will probably go for a more affordable up and coming youngster, based on their model.
Your argument about Hazard is fair but that won’t be the case for Sancho due to this pandemic. As many clubs have come out and said, transfer fees will drop considerably and since football will he played behind closed doors for the foreseeable future, clubs will not earn as much for at least a year.
Hence, even if other clubs do become interested and initiate a bidding war, no clubs will pay an impractical sum knowing only a year is left on his contract and other alternatives are available.
Also, my prediction of his value dropping by almost half may sound unreasonable but I was referring to BVB’s asking price of 120-150m which relates to 60-75m in a years time which is still a substantial amount for a player with just a year remaining on his contract.
BVB would accept such a sum quite happily I’d assume if they do decide to stick to their original valuation and no club is able to pay that fee this year.
They don't actually say that at all
United believe Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial and Mason Greenwood have the potential to become one of the most lethal forward lines in Europe even if they can't sign Kane or £100m-rated Borussia Dortmund star Jadon Sancho.
And it's the Mail so who cares what they say
OK fair enough. Still a shaky market to be spending record amounts on 1 player. There's hope for Sancho deal yet. I still think buying Sancho might depend on Pogba leaving but let's wait and seeWell they would say that after the reports, what else is going to generate clicks
We just don't know what'll happen but Woodward made a clear point of saying we have 90m cash in the bank and up to 150m through credit.
I do get that the BVB model is based on selling players, they have come out and said that as well.
I do get that transfer fees might fall, however; I am not sure by how much, at the moment clubs will not want their most priced assets go cheaply.
Dortmunds asking price of £120m will drop to about £100m this summer anyway. There is also the possibility that Dortmund get Sancho to sign a new contract which will drive his price back up?
IF we are to do a deal, we should go for it this summer.
That's true also, but a club like Dortmund will command a fee far to high for clubs to proceed with in the current circumstances.
Despite the context, it's still a seller's market.
Clubs are more likely to release players off the wage bill, hence I think we will see a lot of loan deals this transfer window, whenever it may be
He could always sign a new contract?!?
Then his value doesn't drop so much.
It'll help Dortmund by making them a true force, along with Haaland.
Not necessarily you are assuming all the money will be paid up front. A lot of transfers are paid over a duration of years so its likely we`d pay say 90m guaranteed but over a duration of 3 years plus add ons involving appearances, goals scored etc woth maybe 30m. Thats what Barca did with Dembele.
I would expect Haaland will be gone in the next two seasons too . Dortmund will get a very tidy sum for him aswell , in fairness to them they are excellent with young upcoming players
Yes, unless they genuinely want to sell to get maximum value and get him off the wage bill. They could replace him for 1/3 of the price with somebody on 1/3 on his wage.
Earning 90m Euros right now could be the make or break of teams across Europe.
So when do they expect this to happen? Never mind the money thats lost, clubs dont suddenly get that back if there's a vaccine. Itll take years to build funds back up again
Not to mention his contract will be running down next year and every story coming out regarding his situation claims that his camp have no interest in renewing/extending his contract with them...
Yep, looks like some media negotiations.
Bet they regret not cashing in last summer. Sporting absolutely maxed on Bruno.
Seriously Sporting must feel like lottery winners right now.
By next year they'll be hosting a buy one get one free offer. This thing isn't getting better till at least a year after crowds can enter stadiums
At the end of the day there are so many angles to this. The kind of money they would get for Sancho is nuts. Probably more then what we sold Ronaldo for all those years ago - though the technical details would differ greatly you'd imagine. If the player is strong in his mind to return, we can do well this summer because there will be as much, if not greater uncertainty the following year especially if the player limits the number of possibilities re destinations. From our perspective, we have to get it over the line. Then the whole dynamic changes. Not only do we have a stronger squad but the youth must be buzzing. But we will have to wait on this.
Yeah, they have the buying and selling of young players locked down.
I thought it was reported that Haaland has a buyout clause?
He does ,a reported 63 million apparently
Everything has been turned on it's head.
The amount United will spend
The amount Sancho is worth
The amount Dortmund need to bring in to balance their books etc etc
Same goes for every club and every player.
Dortmund can't wait for a stronger market as it'll leave Jadon with a year left on his contract.
This isn't me saying we're getting Sancho btw, but it's a lot of clubs making a lot of noise to defend their assets, whether it's money or players
The amount United will spend
The amount Sancho is worth
The amount Dortmund need to bring in to balance their books etc etc
Same goes for every club and every player.
Dortmund can't wait for a stronger market as it'll leave Jadon with a year left on his contract.
This isn't me saying we're getting Sancho btw, but it's a lot of clubs making a lot of noise to defend their assets, whether it's money or players
Shows how crazy the market has been that I don’t register that as a ‘tidy sum’. Although you could argue he could easily go for near to 100 million if he keeps scoring.
I'd be more than happy with just Sancho tbh.
Yep 63 million is a hell of alot of money . The market has gone bonkers like the figures being thrown out for Longstaff last year . Haaland is a very promising young talent but 63 million in my opinion is more sensible. He certainly is one to keep an eye on .
Oh there's people starting to accept the reality we face now. I and plenty of others did say it. Sancho is not happening this summer.
28m lost revenue to date and predicted to go much higher. Net debt up 127m as well. And people think we are going to buy a 100m euro rated player. Its just fantasy stuff.
Bellingham and probably Igahlo / some other back up striker will be our lot.
28m lost revenue to date and predicted to go much higher. Net debt up 127m as well. And people think we are going to buy a 100m euro rated player. Its just fantasy stuff.
Bellingham and probably Igahlo / some other back up striker will be our lot.
As will I.
I’m not surprised with that Grealish news as being saying it for a while that I can’t see us getting him unless Pogba was to leave.
We heard you the first time..
Well ill eventually be worth a trillion if I saved a pound a day but unfortunately I've got an expiration date as does Sancho's contract. See what im sayin'.
You left out the part where we have 90m in cash reserves and an accessible 150m in credit facility plus the fact that not all the money will be paid at once it`ll involve add ons and the assured fee can be paid over a duration Barcelona did that with Dembele. Plus our debt is mostly refinanced and isn`t due for another 7-9 years and even then it can be refinanced again so it doesn`t affect our current spending power that much if at all and with the PL set to return and potential CL qualification some of the financial strain will be removed.
Give it a rest for a day mate.
OK but is that money for transfers? Also what is this 150m credit facility? Another loan? If we're having to take out another big loan it may be for more than big summer spending.
Correct if wrong but I read it as cash to cover potential losses, operational expenses and some transfers rather than 240m summer warchest
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I don’t think we are actually in for Grealish. Personality and how a player carries themselves is such a big factor in our recruitment under Solskjaer and while he might be a strong personality and Villa’s main man, he’s also a bit of an immature nob head and I’m not convinced he’s got the emotional intelligence to make the step up to this club.
I'm glad someone said this.
There's a very good breakdown of this on reddit for anyone interested, it isn't as sensationalist as some are making out.
I agree. The “hole not asshole” quote doesn’t exactly go hand in hand with signing Grealish.
There's a subtle irony in telling a bunch of United fans on a United forum that we're are not very attractive to non-Brits when you're a random Leverkusen fan from Germany who choses to spend time posting here in his second language.
I will when all you 16 year old fifa players stop with all the BS. We may very well have been on course to sign him prior to the virus hitting and obviously depending on us getting CL football too. The day the league was suspended was the day this move died.
What a strange hill to die on and speak in absolutes when literally nothing is certain when it comes to transfers or football in general presently
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