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I still don't get why we didn't just put the bid in, just for shits and giggles, why not.
That win against Leicester on the final day of the season feels like a different universe now.I'm shattered. I thought we really turned a corner and would show ambition this summer.
The reports coming out around the truth behind the transfer are absolutely embarassing. If it is true, what an utter shambles. Apparently Utd were willing to offer the full asking price in the last couple of days but didn't put the bid in because Dortmund had made it clear they won't accept any bid now. Utd's strategy was apparently to drag it out all along to the end of the deadling expecting Dortmund to take the final offer. But Dortmund refused because Utd took the piss with negotations. Most likely they won't wanna do business with us next summer either when there are other buyers involved. When we were willing to pay the full asking price, what a complete joke they dragged it out trying to win a game of poker.
Sadly, that's most likely the end of Sancho ever playing at Utd.
Now whilst that may be true, i just don't understand the logic behind it.Sancho had reportedly refused to train because Utd were confident they would get the deal done with the full asking price bid. Sancho was certain he would be joining which is why there was noise around Ole speaking to Sancho and telling him it's going to be done in the coming days. But Dortmund basically told Utd to eff off. Utd tried to play poker with better poker players. Complete clowns.
People keep saying this and it's complete nonsense. We've needed a RW for a decade. What other positions? CB? The last player we signed in that position was a a great buy wasn't he? I'd rather buy a generational talent than another waste of money CB who'll no doubt get dominated by Ollie Watkins when we play Villa.
I imagine Utd thought the same thing that Dortmund wouldn't reject a 120m euro bid, which is why they tried to be too clever knowing they are the only buyers. If they already rejected our previous bid of 110m euro, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't going to accept 120m euro either.Now whilst that may be true, i just don't understand the logic behind it.
They told us they'd reject the full asking price, because we took the piss, knowing full well that next year things could be much worse financially and they could get much much less for him? Sounds to me like the BS excuses are coming out thick and fast now, as i'm sure that if United were to offer the full price, guaranteed, Dortmund would have accepted.Just my opinion, but 120m Euro in this current climate would not be rejected by any club to be totally fair.
I would say it's incredibly unlikely Dortmund would sell him in January. In fact, I'd expect very little transfer activity in January across the whole of Europe. Clubs revenue streams won't have improved in 3 months time. Clubs will have spent what they needed to this summer. If Dortmund weren't willing to accept 120m Euro right now, it would make no sense for them to accept it 3 months later when they are most likely still in the Champions league. Like I said, I don't see them doing business with us regarding Sancho if there are other buyers in the market next summer (which I believe there will be).We'd better have that 100m ready by January.
I suppose, at this stage, it just adds to the embarrassment.I still don't get why we didn't just put the bid in, just for shits and giggles, why not.
No they're not, i agree, but who else can afford to buy him next summer?? No club is going to commit to a 120m signing when theres a realistic chance that a few clubs might not even exist this time next year if things remain the way they are (unlikely for the huge clubs, but who really knows)I imagine Utd thought the same thing that Dortmund wouldn't reject a 120m euro bid, which is why they tried to be too clever knowing they are the only buyers. If they already rejected our previous bid of 110m euro, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't going to accept 120m euro either.
I honestly would not be surprised if Dortmund have already had discussions with another club who have assured them they would be interested in purchasing Sancho next summer for the same price. Dortmund are not as financially in trouble as many believe.
I would say it's incredibly unlikely Dortmund would sell him in January. In fact, I'd expect very little transfer activity in January across the whole of Europe. Clubs revenue streams won't have improved in 3 months time. Clubs will have spent what they needed to this summer. If Dortmund weren't willing to accept 120m Euro right now, it would make no sense for them to accept it 3 months later when they are most likely still in the Champions league. Like I said, I don't see them doing business with us regarding Sancho if there are other buyers in the market next summer (which I believe there will be).
Where are you getting this information?The reports coming out around the truth behind the transfer are absolutely embarassing. If it is true, what an utter shambles. Apparently Utd were willing to offer the full asking price in the last couple of days but didn't put the bid in because Dortmund had made it clear they won't accept any bid now. Utd's strategy was apparently to drag it out all along to the end of the deadling expecting Dortmund to take the final offer. But Dortmund refused because Utd took the piss with negotations. Most likely they won't wanna do business with us next summer either when there are other buyers involved. When we were willing to pay the full asking price, what a complete joke they dragged it out trying to win a game of poker.
Sadly, that's most likely the end of Sancho ever playing at Utd.
The only thing guaranteed and free of covid crisis sensitivity are dividents going to Glazers, this will be done on time, 100%.We'd better have that 100m ready by January.
Where are you getting this information?
He's a bit shit anyway to be fair.
I honestly think there's only one realistic threat to a team buying Sancho which I've mentioned a few times and that's Chelsea. One thing is clear, sancho is desperate to return to England and the Prem. Yes, Chelsea have bought heavily in those positions already, but they are also not shy to replace a player if there is a better one available. They have unlimited cash and as long as their activity remains within the flimsy FFP regulations, they will happilly spend. This summer, their priorities were in multiple positions as opposed to a big signing. Next summer it will be different. Sancho is a greater talent than Ziyech, Havertz and Pullisic. There is no reason why he doesn't walk into that team. For me, Chelsea are the most viable option for Sancho. It ticks all the boxes. Prem team, living in London where he was born and playing for the team he's reported to support as a kid.No they're not, i agree, but who else can afford to buy him next summer?? No club is going to commit to a 120m signing when theres a realistic chance that a few clubs might not even exist this time next year if things remain the way they are (unlikely for the huge clubs, but who really knows)
Chelsea won't buy him because they're stacked in his position. Barca are skint. Real won't want him. PSG i doubt it too. Liverpool won't be able to afford him.
Unless Bayern come along and pluck him out from the club, but would they really need him? Leaves United as the main front runner again, but if we don't make top 4, then there is no chance.
There was a report midway on Woodward tried to gazunder BVB.I'm pretty sure that Woodward will have pulled one of usual dick moves and that prompted the whole use of intemediaries etc because the trust will have broken down. I can see that he initially agreed to the 120m Euro amount with discussions to continue about how it was "structured" Dortmund will have then expected a brief negotiation around X amount upfront and x number of payments over a reasonable period.
Then Woody will have waltzed back in after agreeing terms with Sancho's people and then start reneging on the original deal, offering add-ons rather than guaranteed payments - making Dortmund pay pending bonuses / agents fees etc.
I think this is why Dortmund started using intermediaries / giving set deadlines...because Woody has destroyed all trust and has salted the earth with yet another club rather than building a positive mutually beneficial relationship.
I don't know any of this for sure but it is the pattern of how he has handled other situations and we know he loves tricky contractual bullshit. We need to get this diseased gargoyle out of the club!
Am sure plenty of leaks will be released as soon as window closes.The usual types are spouting a similar story to that. It's all whispers at the moment clearly.
We'd better have that 100m ready by January.
Feel sorry for Sancho. That’s a lot of emotional uncertainty to deal with for a young guy. And now he probably feels like an idiot having to return to Dortmund, despite being promised it was a done deal.Sancho had reportedly refused to train because Utd were confident they would get the deal done with the full asking price bid. Sancho was certain he would be joining which is why there was noise around Ole speaking to Sancho and telling him it's going to be done in the coming days. But Dortmund basically told Utd to eff off. Utd tried to play poker with better poker players. Complete clowns.
How though?
They don't spend much compared to us and City. They won the Champions League and Premier League recently. New Nike kit deal. They're swimming in it.
Chelsea won't buy him because they're stacked in his position. Barca are skint. Real won't want him. PSG i doubt it too. Liverpool won't be able to afford him.
Maybe it's about the friends we made along the way?
I imagine Utd thought the same thing that Dortmund wouldn't reject a 120m euro bid, which is why they tried to be too clever knowing they are the only buyers. If they already rejected our previous bid of 110m euro, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't going to accept 120m euro either.
I honestly would not be surprised if Dortmund have already had discussions with another club who have assured them they would be interested in purchasing Sancho next summer for the same price. Dortmund are not as financially in trouble as many believe.
If I was Sancho I wouldn’t want to come here after this window.
Why? Go to someone else who didnt show interest in him at all?If I was Sancho I wouldn’t want to come here after this window.
I could watch that all day.'It's about the journey, not the destination.'
In the famous words of Jean Luc Picard....make it so.It’s all over. We’re at the back of the shed now just waiting for the bullet in the back of the head.