It's impossible for us to know what exactly is happening. But all the indications suggest that he will be at Dortmund for another season and that we've not been able to meet their price or get it down. To me it just looks like we'll reach the end of the window and the narrative will be "We tried right till the end, Covid-19 etc got in the way and here's a few players like Telles, etc that we did deliver". However, we'd have missed the mark for our main transfer target. That's my feeling whatever nonesense tactics we seem to be employing to get absolutely nowhere in the meanwhile.
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There are people here who still think this might happen?? 
If we beat Luton the board will conclude we don’t need him
So taking everything into account the summary is this:
Sancho probably would prefer to come to United to be back in England and play a major role in bringing our club back to the top. However, he is also really happy where he is right now and has no pressure with age being on his side, and things look bright for Dortmund with some great young players. So he won't force a move.
Dortmund have no economical need to sell him. And despite the actual crisis things will be more or less back to normal in one year, and his market value might be even higher then. So this is similar to the stock market, where prices are low right now. However, you won't sell at this moment as this would be a stupid thing, given that sooner or later the prices will reach higher levels again. The big clubs will come back and invest heavily in 2021/2022 so no sense in giving assets away for cheap.
Woodward seems to be sure that something like 80 Mio should be enough right now, as the economy lies on the floor. I could see Dortmund accommodating us with a small discount or some kind of structured deal, but surely not a 25% discount.
Sancho probably would prefer to come to United to be back in England and play a major role in bringing our club back to the top. However, he is also really happy where he is right now and has no pressure with age being on his side, and things look bright for Dortmund with some great young players. So he won't force a move.
Dortmund have no economical need to sell him. And despite the actual crisis things will be more or less back to normal in one year, and his market value might be even higher then. So this is similar to the stock market, where prices are low right now. However, you won't sell at this moment as this would be a stupid thing, given that sooner or later the prices will reach higher levels again. The big clubs will come back and invest heavily in 2021/2022 so no sense in giving assets away for cheap.
Woodward seems to be sure that something like 80 Mio should be enough right now, as the economy lies on the floor. I could see Dortmund accommodating us with a small discount or some kind of structured deal, but surely not a 25% discount.
Nah the deal is dead. I think only a bid of 108 and Sancho handing in a request have a chance of getting this done now. Anything less makes Dortmund look a little silly.
Definitely. Makes too much sense not to happen.There are people here who still think this might happen??
We are throwing Dembele’s name into the ring just to drive the price down, vintage Ed.
Big week next week
Haha, yeah, as if some very good players might improve as they get older and stronger and more experienced...imagine that!
Someone please explain to GlastonSpur that a young lad who is still to mature is already posting a better figures than Son so imagine what the finished article could be like. The valuation is always going to be inflated to reflect that!
I’ve got a couple of Spud mates so you’d think I’d be better equipped to ignore Glaston’s nonsense but...
Only if you've a very low barrier for what you call class.
That's delusional, really.
They won't sell this summer (anymore). Not even for 120m€.
Well, he was prepared to give everything. So am I.
Appreciate it mate, even though you don't like comics!
I’m with you Cap!
I think they will. I don't think any (non mega rich) club in the world is in a position to turn down that kind of money at the current climate
We botched this one. Time to move on rather lose any more face by trying to save face.
Of course they will. I think you’re getting caught up with too much bundesliga pride.
They should just form a single club the way they band together.
Having said that, this isn't happening and we have indeed cocked it up it seems
Delusion ? Maybe you should study the reality of economics because the only fact in the matter is that every single club in world football will have been influenced negatively financially due to the pandemic. There's no chance Dortmund would reject a 120 million offer when there's so much uncertainty regarding the infrastructure of the footballing market. Dortmund's business model is predicated on player sales it's the ethos of their profitability.
While there's still time, there's still a chance.
Don't count out Woodward spending £150m on Sancho and saying "We had money to burn all along, he's worth more than Dortmund's valuation".
Don't count out Woodward spending £150m on Sancho and saying "We had money to burn all along, he's worth more than Dortmund's valuation".
They already do, the club is called Bayern
Rest of the clubs are just to make up numbers.
Thing that's confusing me is, why have we not come out and briefed that we're done? We usually would and we'd spin it saying Dortmund were being unreasonable etc.
Plus if we were truly done with him, rumours would be spreading like mad about who were going for next. I just dont understand what were doing at all
Plus if we were truly done with him, rumours would be spreading like mad about who were going for next. I just dont understand what were doing at all
Ornstein said in his podcast that the talks are still at an impasse. It could well be that Dortmund are doing all the leaking to expedite things so that they can in turn invest in a replacement before the window closes.
Yes, when you consider the trajectory of how this saga has panned out I think this is the underlying reality behind everything.
We've gone from Sancho days to Sancho weeks.
Beyond embarrassing at this stage.
Apparently the biggest club in the world but they've signed one player, all other teams have been more than competitive on the field and with signings.
Apparently the biggest club in the world but they've signed one player, all other teams have been more than competitive on the field and with signings.
Cannot agree with the bolded part. Latest talk on vaccines is pointing to around April next year at the earliest and with winter approaching we are increasingly seeing rises in new cases globally and the long term effects are really just starting to kick in. If the current season is actually concluded and that is no guarantee, it will almost certainly be played without fans for most of the campaign and probably much smaller crowds when they are allowed back in. Next Summer the transfer market may well be dead besides free agent deals and all except the very wealthiest clubs will be in a position of having to sell top talent at a huge discount to balance the books.
They already do, the club is called Bayern
Rest of the clubs are just to make up numbers.
Love it. This joke crossed my mind, but I thought it's better if someone else makes it!Much appreciated fellow muppet, we continue to assemble.
JFC
Funnily enough those are my exact initials, so I can assume you are with us?
We really need him.
Ed Woodward has told the entire staff at Manutd he is buying Sancho.Ed Woodward has no plans to buy Sancho.
We have no plans to spend more money, cheaper loan option will come in at the end of the window.
Ed knows if we sign anyone before the end, the revolt will be too much.
Much appreciated fellow muppet, we continue to assemble.
Funnily enough those are my exact initials, so I can assume you are with us?
Next summer Sancho will have 2 years left on his contract, long term he clearly doesn't want to stay at Dortmund so knows by signing a new contract he's going to make it far more difficult to leave.
I don't think there's going to be a bidding war for him next summer either, Real/Barca will have other priorities and he doesn't strike me as the type who'll want to go to PSG.
I don't think there's going to be a bidding war for him next summer either, Real/Barca will have other priorities and he doesn't strike me as the type who'll want to go to PSG.
The problem is Dortmund will only give him higher wages if a new contract is signed.
I agree Barca / Real may not come in but for sure Liverpool and Chelsea might, as soon as that happens we go to third choice.
That is all assuming we even get CL football, if we don't bye bye Sancho,.
I think you are right simply because i think BVB set the August deadline to get replacements in just in time to go into preseason with a squad that will play in the upcoming season. I highly doubt they'll accept any bid in the last week and struggle with the squad without Sancho's input. We had this transfer ideally in the bag before Aug 10 and I think we blew it. He may now go on and play at Bayern (preferably), Madrid, Barca or even Liverpool. We may have sadly blew our chance to get him ever. Very sad unless he really wants to get back to Manchester and don't want to play for City anymore which is the only chance we may get him in the future windows. Ed should go to hell. We lack a proper hierarchy in this club and it is literally showing in our games now. That Palace game was the worse I have seen a United team play in ages. It was poor through and through. I don't think we'll have a great season and we definitely should not blame Ole for that although I blame him for choosing a bad lineup for the Palace game.
#GlazersOut #WoodwardOut
it’s remarkable how easily people make this remark and without any economic evidence or rationale.
It’s a preposterous statement and a virtually impossible scenario to happen.
I’d like to know exactly where these extra profits will come from.
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Are you mad? Of course they'd sell!
Europe is currently on course to have a second wave of infections, and the richest, most financially powerful league in the world is going to be the most fecked out of every league in Europe. Real and PSG are the wild cards, but Real will have their eyes solely on Mbappe, and PSG have their own FFP constraints that their working through this summer.
£108m is about as good as it will ever get for Dortmund. I don't blame them for setting that price, it's their prerogative after all, but if they are thinking that they will get as good or better price next year, they are absolutely deluded. Unfortunately however, I don't trust Utd to even get the deal done next year on the likely reduced terms, so it's all a bit of a moot point atm.
It didn't stop him signing a new deal last summer did it!
Players generally don't worry about the future. They'll take the easy way of staying put for a huge increase. They presume a team will make it happen down the line somewhere.
I don’t understand so many posters delighting in this transfer being off, like yay we’re not going to improve!
It seems unlikely at this point admittedly but the train never stops, it just changes destination! CHOO CHOO!
It seems unlikely at this point admittedly but the train never stops, it just changes destination! CHOO CHOO!
I am very far from delighted. Doesn't mean I think it's still on.
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