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Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract
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Good luck on that. I've never heard any Premier league team that generous when selling their best players, especially to us. Let's hope Villa would be the first one.
They won’t be a premier league team though, that is my point. Only one Championship team has ever sold a player above £30m, that was Sissoko going to Tottenham for £31m. There is no way we would have to pay over £40m for Grealish Should Villa go down.
The only way it could go higher is if there was a bidding war. I wonder which other team/s would be in for him. Spurs could use a player who has both silk and steel in their midfield.
If we pay 40m granted it will be worth it but it's quite annoying how we're always breaking transfer records
How do you know for sure they won't be? They are only 2 points off the last 5 and they have a game in hand. Its not like they far behind the pack and no chance to play in relegation battle. Besides, even if they relegate, it doesn't mean they will sell all their players cheaply. They may sell their best players though.
For example, Maddison is quoted at 80m, and Grealish is just as good in every ways. Maybe 60m is already cheap price for Grealish in comparison.
Grealish is the kind of player Everton buy isn't he. Too good for relegation fodder, never going to win a premier league.
Hope we save our money.
Hope we save our money.
cluelessI need to see more of Grealish.
fecking what? Have you watched much of him then?
Good enough for the top 4 for sure. The player you're thinking of is Gerrard.
On the contrary he is a kind of player who looks ready for the step up and any team in top 4 should be more than happy to have him.
Maybe £80m is a bit much for Maddison?
Where's this £80m figure come from?
Like Gylfi Sigurdsonn for £50m. I think Grealish is better than Gylfi and could step up to a top 4 team, but I do see him as a very good squad player something that’s needed in today’s game.
I don’t think he’s better than Bruno, Pogba or Fred.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9919046/man-utd-plot-leicester-james-maddison-transfer-80m/
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ansfer-rumours-james-maddison-real-madrid-80m
https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/26/manc...sfer-talks-stall-new-leicester-deal-11961807/
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-make-80m-leicester-21152403
Sorry, I meant for Grealish. We won't go for Maddison after we got our pants pulled down over Maguire.
If Villa quote a sum of that much.. there is no point negotiating, you give them a £40m offer and if they are not willing to negotiate you walk away. Surely, we cannot be paying these sums.
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Sorry I think I did word it wrong - I simply meant that in the hypothetical scenario of my original post where Villa go down, the argument of the being a Premier League club wasn’t applicable
I completely agree that them going down is far from certain right now!
So someone literally made that fee up or we presume that Villa have briefed that's what they want for him. I'm happy to put my neck on the line and say he'll move for well under £80m, more like £50m.
You reckon Grealish is a better player than Gerrard?!
Nearly 25 by the time the new season rolls around, 8 premier league goals, bit of a knob. I don't see it.
All the best players are.
Gerrard fit your example. Grealish could easily play for a top 4 side, he carries Villa most weekends. They'd be down already without him.
Maybe the fact that he isn’t an England international will help too with the bargaining side of things, but wouldn’t be surprised if Villa look a kings ransom for him as they’ll need him to stay in or even get back in the premier league.
Think he needs to hand in a transfer request to force a move, could be a long one this..
I think him being an England regular would benefit us. No one who plays regularly for England plays for a bottom 5 side or a Championship side for that matter. If he gets in the first team he'll be told he needs to play at a higher level week in, week out in order to maintain his place in the squad.
Listened to a Villa podcast the other week and they said he'd outgrown their squad anyway and he should move to a bigger team this summer.
Maybe I'm prejudiced against him because of his shocking barnet. I don't think he improves our first choice starting 11 and it's a lot of money to spend to improve squad depth.
Gylfi has had a poor season and they're very different players but I'd say it's a fair comparison. If you look at the majority of Gylfi's career he's been a very good player at this level but not a top one.
Is it though City spent £67m on Mahrez and Liverpool £65m on Keita, Chelsea £68m on Pulisic, you need quality on the bench nowadays especially with the 5 sub rule coming in.
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Some people only want players who are at big clubs where they can see them shine in a good system. That's how you get your kagawa's and mhiki's. It's the reason people didnt want Salah or Mane.
Do you think any of those were purchased with the thought in mind that they weren't going to be first choice starting 11?
I think Mahrez was, the other two maybe not, but they’re still squad players now and that’s the type of quality you need on a bench nowadays.
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80M is Sancho type of money, not Jack Grealish. We better don’t get rinsed off here
Keita definitely was, they were raving about him but he's just been naff.
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£80m for Grealish is an absolute joke of a fee. You don’t spend that much on a squad player who wouldn’t improve your first XI.
It’s a made up fee anyway but if we paid that I’d be incredibly annoyed at how wasteful we would have been.
Absolutely not.
I wasn’t talking about £80m I meant above £50m..
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If Bruno was £47m base fee that for me should be the biggest guide. Is Grealish going to make a bigger impact. I’d say confidently no. So is he worth £50m plus to our team? I’d also say no.
I was just quoting a price one of the other guys said because I kind butted in a conversation, but originally I said £45m would be a fair price although from what am hearing Villa will be looking much more.
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I wasn’t having a go at you so apologies if it came across that way.
I honestly think that’s about the upper limit of what he’s worth. Realistically the same level of player from abroad would cost £35m.
I really think people are getting carried away thinking £60m etc for him. With Pogba we have no current urgent need for a £50m plus bench warmer. I also think Grealish now is as good as he’ll be I don’t see him progressing up a level as I think if he was serious he’d have left Villa earlier.
He really loves the club but I also think he loves being a cult hero and being the big man on a small stage and I really can’t see us making a move for him.
No worries, I think he would be a good upgrade on Lingard and Pereria but am not dying for him to sign either.
I’d be more worried about where exactly he’d play could see him being pushed out to the right to accommodate him in the team, then that leads you to thinking why not just sign a right winger instead.
Sancho seems to tick so many boxes it takes away from other options also.
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