Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

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He is one player I just don’t understand why we are not chasing (we may be but I’m guessing not).
He would instantly be our best option in the #10 role. He is a long term option that could be a world beater.
It could be a tough transfer to get done but I think he would come to us this month and you would have to fancy us to be pretty lethal up front with his supply.
I live in hope....
 
poleglass red said:
there has been talk that his contract has a 45 mill buyout clause, the club has denied that. The argument about Villa not selling their prized asset when so close to relegation could be offset by claims they need to raise money to comply with FPP. Not sure how true either claim is but it's out there in the press.
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How about the fact their keeper and striker are out for the rest of the season so Villa clearly need to invest in players, Grealish wont keep them up.

They're 1 point above the relegation zone with their Brazilian national team striker and first choice keeper, without them they're on the way down. Grealish creates some chances but he's also the only one other than Wesley who has scored more than 3 league goals... So without them who is he creating for?

Its obviously not what the fans would want, but realistically its going to be hard for them to keep Grealish and be in the premier league next season.

Obviously my prediction is that if they keep him and dont make 2 or 3 good signings, which is likely to cost a decent amount of cash, they'll be relegated.
 
Art said:
How much would he cost realistically ?
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Imo £50 million in Jan sounds about right. Less than that if he stays till the summer and they get relegated. Then they'll obviously need to offload him and he'll be a player who couldnt keep them up so he'd lose some value
 
People need to stop deluding themselves into thinking he will abandon Aston Villa in January, no matter how much we offer. He'll be worth just as much in the summer i'm sure, and Villa's best chance of staying up is keeping him until the summer, not to mention its his boyhood club. He's not coming in January.
 
Sign the boy up now. Got a good 10 years on him and has proven himself this season at a struggling team.

watched him play last night and he played fantastic. Think he’s mile better than Maddison, very underrated.
 
Sign him, Lingard on loan to Villa as part of the deal, utd pay his wages
 
Would like to see him play in the centre more. I know he gets on the ball in the middle a lot but it's always coming in from the left. He's played most of his games at left wing this season and that's the last thing we need.
 
This is a signing I'd really like. Ticks all the boxes for us and he's attainable. Go get him.
 
If we are serious about this, he will move, January or not. Last time he missed out on a big move to Spurs, I think he will grab his next opportunity without much hesitation. Will take a decent sized offer to tempt his club however.
 
I don’t think he’d leave villa in January.
If they get relegated he’d be a lot cheaper
 
Villa would no doubt rather just promote an academy player than go anywhere near Lingard.
 
poleglass red said:
this is why i hate stats, they can be so misleading. He made a surging run from the half and tried to play a defence splitting pass that would have put his teammate clean through but Soyuncu at full stretch was able to get a touch on and block it.Ball went straight to a Villa player and 4 touches later ball is in the back of the net. That passage started with his run and attempted pass.I watched the game moreso to see what capacity he could strengthen us. I loved the way he dictated the tempo for them, long and short passes, kept it well. He put a beauty of a free kick in that Villa player headed off crossbar, again an area we are poor in ie delivery of set pieces.He lost possession down towards Leicester corner flag isn 2nd half as his villa teamate went back instead of forward, again stats will show failed dribble attempt but had his teammate made the run he would have got the ball. What Grealish draws is lots of fouls with his runs, I believe he's the most fouled player in league. What I liked about him was he is always looking to play a forward pass, I've no issue with losing possession at the other teams corner flag or losing possession trying to make a positive run with the ball, happens to Pogba all the time. Haven't seen a ton of him, but liked his performance v leicester
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To add on, the "dribble" stat is one of the dumbest stats going. You can break a defenders ankles and put in a cross but since the opposition clear the cross, the dribble will be counted as unsuccessful. The stat is in no way accurate and effectively useless.
 
Griealish on the left and Van de Beek on the right is like a new midfield so it isn't going to happen.
 
Jibbs said:
I have a nagging feeling he will replace Silva at City.
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Same just because of his ability to blend with the left channel.

The only thing that stops it from happening is Grealish himself and Foden.

Grealish sometimes reminds me as close as a English player can be to a Spanish player in the way he plays - maybe not in terms of quality but fluidity & Pep might want to take chances on that. After all he took chances on John Stones for being well John stones.

It kind of depends though - I felt at one stage Pep might have wanted to do some things with some British characters in the squad but now that titles is lost - either that comes back or it gets even worse.
 
Bebestation said:
Same just because of his ability to blend with the left channel.

The only thing that stops it from happening is Grealish himself and Foden.

Grealish sometimes reminds me as close as a English player can be to a Spanish player in the way he plays - maybe not in terms of quality but fluidity & Pep might want to take chances on that. After all he took chances on John Stones for being well John stones.

It kind of depends though - I felt at one stage Pep might have wanted to do some things with some British characters in the squad but now that titles is lost - either that comes back or it gets even worse.
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If he's got genuinely excellence close control he'd really add a lot to our team.
 
Ekeke said:
How about the fact their keeper and striker are out for the rest of the season so Villa clearly need to invest in players, Grealish wont keep them up.

They're 1 point above the relegation zone with their Brazilian national team striker and first choice keeper, without them they're on the way down. Grealish creates some chances but he's also the only one other than Wesley who has scored more than 3 league goals... So without them who is he creating for?

Its obviously not what the fans would want, but realistically its going to be hard for them to keep Grealish and be in the premier league next season.

Obviously my prediction is that if they keep him and dont make 2 or 3 good signings, which is likely to cost a decent amount of cash, they'll be relegated.
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That does sound plausible, to sell him and reinvest in the squad.

Have we even been linked with him in any reliable reports?
 
amolbhatia50k said:
If he's got genuinely excellence close control he'd really add a lot to our team.
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He's the type that may not seem so skillful to the eye but you hope that develops in to a player that just manages to perfect that 'quick faint' before releasing Rashford down the left channel. Again nothing explosive but fluid to the gameplay.
 
Not much has been said about this but he'd also give us a false 9 or another wide option for certain games:

Rashford-Grealish-Greenwood
--------Pogba------CM-------------------
-----------------DM--------------------------

He's versatile enough to help us. I like Maddison's quasi-robotic creation of chances but Grealish being a Giggs type means he's probably a bit more versatile and could be a right-footed Giggs type for us. I know that's a big comparison but you don't see many thin, nimble attackers like him. Seems like he could age well even if he loses a step in his late 20s and obviously an upgrade now. He's like Zaha in that he's obviously good enough at what he's good at but it's tough to say exactly how he'll do at a bigger club, though he's not as young as when we signed Zaha and had we done it at 24/25 it probably would have gone well.
 
talking robot said:
Offer them Jones and Lingard + 40 million pounds.
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I really don't want to disrespect your team but Lingard & Jones really don't have a lot of value to most Premier League teams. Grealish will not leave Villa in January but will almost certainly be sold in the Summer if Villa are relegated. Jones & Lingard will not go to a Championship team so Man Utd will have to come up with cold hard cash if they want to snag him. Having said that, he would be a tremendous acquisition and give you quality for years to come.
 
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jeff gurr said:
I really don't want to disrespect your team but Lingard & Jones really don't have a lot of value to most Premier League teams. Grealish will not leave Villa in January but will almost certainly be sold in the Summer if Villa are relegated. Jones & Lingard will not go to a Championship team so Man Utd will have to come up with cold hard cash if they want to snag him. Having said that, he would be a tremendous acquisition and give you quality for years to come.
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Who do you think is the better player between him and Maddison? Obviously Grealish is a year older so you have to take that into account but still...
 
I've always been 50/50 on Grealish and Maddison in terms of who's more talented (even when Jack was in the championship and people were questioning whether he could make the step up), but I've come to the opinion of preferring Grealish overall.

I love how he baits players into fouling him as he knows he has the strength, and footwork, to keep the ball under pressure the same way Verratti and Arthur do. Villa need him further forwards right now but, like the aforementioned players, I think he'd develop into a great CM (which is where he performed excellently last season, too) and I personally hope to see him move back there eventually.
 
NoPace said:
Think you're right about the second but I'm not sure everyone hates Lingard. My guess is some Prem teams think he's a 5M player and some a 30M player, even though that may sound crazy to us, as we know he's about a 10M player for a lower level Prem team where he'd get to play on the break more which would suit him (and he'd probably bag more goals) but his abhorrent playmaking would see him end up on the wing where he's not at his best.
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I don't hate Lingard, I've been a long time defender of him, in the current market he's certainly more than a £10m player despite his terrible form of late. My point is that Villa are owned by a billionaire and wouldn't sell Grealish unless a) they were offered a ridiculous amount of money or b) Grealish demanded a move. An offer of £25-30m plus Lingard would simply be nowhere near Villas valuation of the player, unlike Maddison at Leicester he isn't just a player in their system, he's their leader both on and off the pitch & is effectively the face of the club, it would take crazy money while they're still a Premier League club.
 
jeff gurr said:
I really don't want to disrespect your team but Lingard & Jones really don't have a lot of value to most Premier League teams. Grealish will not leave Villa in January but will almost certainly be sold in the Summer if Villa are relegated. Jones & Lingard will not go to a Championship team so Man Utd will have to come up with cold hard cash if they want to snag him. Having said that, he would be a tremendous acquisition and give you quality for years to come.
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Jones would be great for them. He might not be good enough to start for us but he's good enough to start for half the teams in the league. Villa's defensive record is terrible.

Lingard would be good for a team to invest in because he's played well in the past, so if they could get a resurgence from him he could gain a lot of value and interest
 
Ekeke said:
Jones would be great for them. He might not be good enough to start for us but he's good enough to start for half the teams in the league. Villa's defensive record is terrible.
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Em and how do you arrive at that. As he is supposed to have better players here at utd (defending wise) as oppose to Villa and he is still rubbish and you think by him joining Villa who you say are "terrible" he will improve them, can never understand that logic, shite at a top 6 club means you be great and a instant starter at mid table teams.

Sorry but he is just more rubbish that AF seemed on buying at the latter stage here, although he did look to have something when at Blackburn, its like to me when he arrived, he went from putting in 100% per game there to 40/50 % with us maybe and he never brought his Blackburn form with him.
 
patty123 said:
Em and how do you arrive at that. As he is supposed to have better players here at utd (defending wise) as oppose to Villa and he is still rubbish and you think by him joining Villa who you say are "terrible" he will improve them, can never understand that logic, shite at a top 6 club means you be great and a instant starter at mid table teams.

Sorry but he is just more rubbish that AF seemed on buying at the latter stage here, although he did look to have something when at Blackburn, its like to me when he arrived, he went from putting in 100% per game there to 40/50 % with us maybe and he never brought his Blackburn form with him.
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He's not terrible, he's just not up to the standards we expect from a CB starting for United - influenced heavily by having Rio and Vidic in recent memory

Its very immature to think that a player who isnt good enough to start for United, is terrible. He makes too many mistakes, but if you watch other teams who arent as good as United often you'd see that their CBs make mistakes too
 
amolbhatia50k said:
If he's got genuinely excellence close control he'd really add a lot to our team.
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He does. He carries the ball well and knows how to shield it, there’s a reason he’s the most fouled player in the league.

He picks the ball up from deep and dribbles passed his man with a little drop of the shoulder, and he keeps the ball close to him.

He’d be a huge upgrade in Lingard mata and pereira.
 
Ekeke said:
He's not terrible, he's just not up to the standards we expect from a CB starting for United - influenced heavily by having Rio and Vidic in recent memory
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Jones is a dreadful player, one of the worst central defenders I've seen play for United since the 1970's.

As for Jack Grealish, I'd 100% love him here, miles better than anything we currently have on the books.
 
Ikon said:
Jones is a dreadful player, one of the worst central defenders I've seen play for United since the 1970's.

As for Jack Grealish, I'd 100% love him here, miles better than anything we currently have on the books.
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I remember all the individual mistakes our CBs would be making with Brown and Silvestre at CB so I completely disagree. Before Rio it was individual errors all the time
 
Ekeke said:
I remember all the individual mistakes our CBs would be making with Brown and Silvestre at CB so I completely disagree. Before Rio it was individual errors all the time
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Jones isn't fit to lace the boots of either Brown or Silvestre.
Infact, I am struggling to think of a CB of a major club having such a piss poor footballing brain as Jones.
 
Ikon said:
Jones isn't fit to lace the boots of either Brown or Silvestre.
Infact, I am struggling to think of a CB of a major club having such a piss poor footballing brain as Jones.
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This is exactly the type of immature comment I'm talking about. Thankyou for giving a perfect example
 
Ekeke said:
This is exactly the type of immature comment I'm talking about. Thankyou for giving a perfect example
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It's a fact mate.
Jones is totally unable to read a game developing in front of him, oblivious to see danger unfolding.
It's why he is desperately throwing his body in front of the ball to make blocks, giving away fouls and penalties and constantly getting injured, because of his lack of footballing intelligence puts him behind the curve.
You are welcome to the perfect example anytime.
 
I think he’s more nimble and agile than Maddison, better balanced and has better dribbling ability in my opinion. Really hard to see who is more technically skilled but Maddison can spot a through pass better. Not sure who i’ll prefer though
 
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