Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract

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If Pogba stays, there's no way Grealish gets into our potential starting XI. That is assuming Ole continues with a 4231, which seems very likely. That means, playing a squad role, which I can't see him wanting to do. I also can't see us spending, what I assume would be, 50 plus million on a squad player.

That said, it would be a shame to miss out on such a talented player like Grealish, and I'm a massive fan of his. Not only his ability, but his mentality seems suited to United, but there's no point buying players for the sake of it. Think we'd be more suited to sign a very good squad player, who can play back up to Bruno.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
If Pogba stays, there's no way Grealish gets into our potential starting XI. That is assuming Ole continues with a 4231, which seems very likely. That means, playing a squad role, which I can't see him wanting to do. I also can't see us spending, what I assume would be, 50 plus million on a squad player.

That said, it would be a shame to miss out on such a talented player like Grealish, and I'm a massive fan of his. Not only his ability, but his mentality seems suited to United, but there's no point buying players for the sake of it. Think we'd be more suited to sign a very good squad player, who can play back up to Bruno.
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Not our problem. Grealish would be great as cover when you consider our cover this season has been Lingard and Pereira for that position. You need squad members like Grealish to compete on multiple fronts, sustain a title winning league campaign.
 
Striker10 said:
you see people talk about his quality but it's the same snobbish attitude we've seen in the past regarding Vardy and Mane.....Grealish in the United squad could be a much better version of the one playing for Villa or he could flop but I think he'd do well and he's at a good age. But there's many factors. We can talk about the quality of other players but we have a budget and we just don't know. He had good technical quality and to me (baring the stupidity...which i'm sure he'll learn from), it's almost a non brainer.

He will improve the quality of the squad, give us strong options and YES...will help us. We've seen we can compete with top teams. We've dropped points mostly against teams we should be stronger then. I think as one of the players we could bring in, he would do very well for us. We are talking about a squad here. I think he would be productive in our style of play and in our system but people need to think again. Someone like James Milner wouldn't exactly excite you but produces moments of quality and is reliable. Not everyone can be Ronaldo....

He's at a good age. He's got good ability on the ball and can produce quality where it matters. He can beat a player - something which we could do more of.
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I agree. For some strange reason people find it hard to recognize the quality in non- top 6 players in their leagues and would rather by an unknown entity in France, Italy, Holland or Portugal where the quality is clearly not at the same . People here spoke so highly of players like Pepe and Ndombole. It is actually really annoying. Like you said we have missed out on players like Mane, Robertson, Van Dijk, Vardy, Mahrez and missed Macguire at a lower price thanks to this attitude. Instead we go and sign a 29 year old Sanchez on his last legs or Mhikhitaryan that watching his game would have told you that he was not a creative no.10.

Grealish isn't even just a hard worker, he is a quality dribbler and chance creator. In fact he has created the most chances outside of Kevin De Bruyne in the league this season. When you consider his team, its something that has to be taken notice of. There aren't many better available players than him.
 
sport2793 said:
Not our problem. Grealish would be great as cover when you consider our cover this season has been Lingard and Pereira for that position. You need squad members like Grealish to compete on multiple fronts, sustain a title winning league campaign.
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Not our problem, but it'll be Grealish's problem. Squad involvement is obviously spoken about before signing a contract. It's the reason we couldn't sign Haaland. If we can't offer Grealish the games he would like, then he's well within his right to turn down the offer. Of course playing for United is a dream for a lot of players, so that could be a factor, but if he's thinking about his career, based on the season he's had, I doubt he'd want to come here to warm the bench.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
If Pogba stays, there's no way Grealish gets into our potential starting XI. That is assuming Ole continues with a 4231, which seems very likely. That means, playing a squad role, which I can't see him wanting to do. I also can't see us spending, what I assume would be, 50 plus million on a squad player.

That said, it would be a shame to miss out on such a talented player like Grealish, and I'm a massive fan of his. Not only his ability, but his mentality seems suited to United, but there's no point buying players for the sake of it. Think we'd be more suited to sign a very good squad player, who can play back up to Bruno.
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If we do not get Sancho, I wouldn't mind shifting him to the right. He has great dribbling ability and can run up and down the flanks if needed. I don't really buy into players needing to play on their inside foot. Grealish may even be better at it from that side than on the left, and at worst, he would be a roaming playmaker like Mata, but with dribbling ability.
 
tjb said:
If we do not get Sancho, I wouldn't mind shifting him to the right. He has great dribbling ability and can run up and down the flanks if needed. I don't really buy into players needing to play on their inside foot. Grealish may even be better at it from that side than on the left, and at worst, he would be a roaming playmaker like Mata, but with dribbling ability.
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It's an option, but something I personally wouldn't go with. If we're spending big money, than we should be buying a specialist in my opinion, and Grealish, despite possibly having the ability to play on the right, isn't a specialist right winger, which we've needed for some time now. If we don't get Sancho, there's plenty of right wing options out there.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Not our problem, but it'll be Grealish's problem. Squad involvement is obviously spoken about before signing a contract. It's the reason we couldn't sign Haaland. If we can't offer Grealish the games he would like, then he's well within his right to turn down the offer. Of course playing for United is a dream for a lot of players, so that could be a factor, but if he's thinking about his career, based on the season he's had, I doubt he'd want to come here to warm the bench.
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What team could he go to that has a realistic chance of getting trophies + where he will get regular playing time as I can't see Liverpool or Man City providing the latter point to him. Same goes for Chelsea if we also consider them to be on the rise. Grealish will still likely get a lot of minutes here as only Pogba and Bruno would be ahead of him and injuries are likely to occur over the course of the season.
 
stepic said:
He’d be way too expensive to be a bench player.
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He wont be a bench player. We would always get injuries and need to change system when playing different teams. We are not the force we are because we dont have quality 11 let alone depth when one player gets injured.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
If Pogba stays, there's no way Grealish gets into our potential starting XI. That is assuming Ole continues with a 4231, which seems very likely. That means, playing a squad role, which I can't see him wanting to do. I also can't see us spending, what I assume would be, 50 plus million on a squad player.

That said, it would be a shame to miss out on such a talented player like Grealish, and I'm a massive fan of his. Not only his ability, but his mentality seems suited to United, but there's no point buying players for the sake of it. Think we'd be more suited to sign a very good squad player, who can play back up to Bruno.
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I think it's pretty obvious and clear that we will only try to sign Grealish if we can offload Pogba. I think Ole will be desperate to offload Pogba and all the baggage that comes with him, and right now there's some credible sources from Italy and Spain saying Juve and Madrid will make a move. So fingers crossed they make a realistic bid.
 
Champagne Football said:
I think it's pretty obvious and clear that we will only try to sign Grealish if we can offload Pogba. I think Ole will be desperate to offload Pogba and all the baggage that comes with him, and right now there's some credible sources from Italy and Spain saying Juve and Madrid will make a move. So fingers crossed they make a realistic bid.
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Whilst I agree we'll definately sign a replacement it Pogba goes, I dont think its obvious that the replacement will be Grealish, simply because Grealish is better as a 10, as is Bruno. Therefore, it will mean having to move Bruno deeper to accommodate Grealish, which would be ashame, as his start to his United career as a 10 has been nothing short of amazing.

The alternative is keeping Bruno as a 10, and replacing Pogba with a deep lying playmaker like Fabian Ruiz of Napoli.

Having said that, like I said before, passing up such a talent like Grealish, who has been amazing this season could be a massive mistake. It will be interesting to see what Ole does.
 
sport2793 said:
What team could he go to that has a realistic chance of getting trophies + where he will get regular playing time as I can't see Liverpool or Man City providing the latter point to him. Same goes for Chelsea if we also consider them to be on the rise. Grealish will still likely get a lot of minutes here as only Pogba and Bruno would be ahead of him and injuries are likely to occur over the course of the season.
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Any team can get injuries, but when all players are fit, Bruno and Pogba start most, if not all of our Premier League games. A bit like Silva, De Bruyne and Fernandinho. It means the only games Grealish would get are cup games and sub appearances. If he's happy with that, then i'm all for it, but I couldnt see him getting a lot of minutes in the EPL.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Whilst I agree we'll definately sign a replacement it Pogba goes, I dont think its obvious that the replacement will be Grealish, simply because Grealish is better as a 10, as is Bruno. Therefore, it will mean having to move Bruno deeper to accommodate Grealish, which would be ashame, as his start to his United career as a 10 has been nothing short of amazing.
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I agree. But relying on Bruno as our only creative mid all season is a big ask. It remains to be seen if Mejbri and Gomes are able back-up to Bruno next season.

Fergie would rotate the likes of Fletcher with Tevez/Berbatov, depending on if we needed an extra attacker on the pitch against weaker teams, or whether we needed another bulldog in midfield against stronger teams, and Ole will want to have a similar option depending on the opposition.

Then of course if Bruno plays a massive game on Sunday evening and we play again by Tuesday or Wednesday night, then Ole might want to rotate midfield creative duties between Bruno and someone else.

But I think Ole will spring a few surprises and sign a couple of unheard of kids that he can develop like he did with Daniel James.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Any team can get injuries, but when all players are fit, Bruno and Pogba start most, if not all of our Premier League games. A bit like Silva, De Bruyne and Fernandinho. It means the only games Grealish would get are cup games and sub appearances. If he's happy with that, then i'm all for it, but I couldnt see him getting a lot of minutes in the EPL.
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A bit like Silva, De Bruyne, and Fernandinho. So in that case Bernardo, Gundogan, and Rodri must have all barely played right? Yet strangely reality shows they all played loads. How did that manage to happen?
 
Angel Gomes was also someone I wanted to see do well here and maybe the club felt the same but know he isnt signing a contract?

We've tried to progress alot of our players under Ole, but considering Mata's, Lingard, Pereira and Gomes's time maybe up - I think there's more space than meets the eye. In a years time we can see who's better at LW for us too be it Grealish or James depending on their progression. Some people think he isnt made for CM but I personally think he will progress there the older he gets. Obviously not everyone will leave in a blink of an eye but theres space there.

I do hope Gomes stays though, after all this time - he's someone I want to see atleast attempt to make the step up here and no where else.
 
limerickcitykid said:
A bit like Silva, De Bruyne, and Fernandinho. So in that case Bernardo, Gundogan, and Rodri must have all barely played right? Yet strangely reality shows they all played loads. How did that manage to happen?
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Two seasons ago when De Bruyne, Silva and Fernandinho played, Rodri wasnt there, Silva mostly played, and still plays on the wing, and Gundogan started 15 games, due to him being able to play the 6 and 8 position.

This season, all of them have rotated and played equal games, where if im honest, is possibly a big reason as to why they've been so inconsistent this season. Whilst Liverpool will sometimes rotate in midfield, they more or less have the same starting XI every week. City had the same a couple of seasons ago. Leicester the same when they won the title.

I understand teams need to rotate, but its important to have a settled team. Rotational players shouldnt be starting anymore than 10 games, it that. If Grealish is happy with that, then as I said before, fair play to him.
 
If United want an attacking midfielder and Grealish is too pricey, then Milot Raschica is an interesting option.
 
Eurosport journo claims we're finalizing a deal for him at the moment...



Honestly not as pressed for him after recent developments

Mainly Pogba's return seeming to be on the horizon, the club being all in on Sancho and his own unimpressive behavior during the quarantine

Not sure if his arrival would throw a wrench into the former 2 plans or not but it wouldn't be worth it if it did in my opinion
 
Why would a french journo get the first sniff at this transfer? Seems unlikely to me.

Jack would be welcomed addition surely, but I think we have to wait a while to get him. Is Aston Villa in financial trouble?
 
Svartzonker said:
Why would a french journo get the first sniff at this transfer? Seems unlikely to me.

Jack would be welcomed addition surely, but I think we have to wait a while to get him. Is Aston Villa in financial trouble?
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They are unfortunately
 
I hope if we are keeping Pogba we we sign Sancho first and foremost. Do not sign Grealish over Sancho.


If Pogba stays sign Sancho.

If he goes sign Grealish and Sancho. Simple really.
 
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JJ12 said:
They are unfortunately
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Maybe we are trying to seal a cheapish deal right now with lots of money up front? We will get our guy and Villa will be out of the financial troubles for a while.

laughtersassassin said:
I hope if we are keeping Pogba we we sign Sancho first and foremost. Do not sign Grealish over Sancho.

If Pogba stays sign Sancho.

If he goes sign Grealish and Sancho. Simple really.
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I don’t think this transfer would affect Pogba staying or Sanco coming.

We will most likely sell some squad players (Pereira, Lingard, maybe even Mata). We would have a total of six to seven players for 3 spots in the starting eleven. A quality player or two on the bench will not hurt.

Grealish can also play as left winger or deeper in the midfield. There would be plenty of minutes to be played for everyone involved.

Bruno (Grealish + Mata + Gomes?)
Pogba (Fred)
McTominay (Matic + Garner)

I suspect that Gomes is signing and going on loan after that along with Garner.
 
Svartzonker said:
Why would a french journo get the first sniff at this transfer? Seems unlikely to me.

Jack would be welcomed addition surely, but I think we have to wait a while to get him. Is Aston Villa in financial trouble?
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I think this is fake news.
 
I don't understand if our entire negotiation position is based on Villa getting relegated.
The rumour that he's got a release clause keeps popping up here and there.
 
Svartzonker said:
Maybe we are trying to seal a cheapish deal right now with lots of money up front? We will get our guy and Villa will be out of the financial troubles for a while.



I don’t think this transfer would affect Pogba staying or Sanco coming.

We will most likely sell some squad players (Pereira, Lingard, maybe even Mata). We would have a total of six to seven players for 3 spots in the starting eleven. A quality player or two on the bench will not hurt.

Grealish can also play as left winger or deeper in the midfield. There would be plenty of minutes to be played for everyone involved.

Bruno (Grealish + Mata + Gomes?)
Pogba (Fred)
McTominay (Matic + Garner)

I suspect that Gomes is signing and going on loan after that along with Garner.
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That would be ideal and bode very well for us. Our team would have so much creativity. Would be the best attack we had on paper post Fergie for sure.
 
Adisa said:
I don't understand if our entire negotiation position is based on Villa getting relegated.
The rumour that he's got a release clause keeps popping up here and there.
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If he actually had a release clause wouldn't we'd know it's value?

Players at just relegated clubs typically sell for half or less of their normal price. Good example is Idrissa Gueye, whom Everton bought for less than £8m in summer of 2016 when Villa were last relegated.
 
I very much think its a case of Grealish or Pogba. I can't see us signing Grealish if Pogba is to stay, we just won't have the money if we want to/manage to sign Sancho.
 
M. Lonjon (Eurosport): United are finalising contract with Grealish.

 
SpyLuke10 said:
I very much think its a case of Grealish or Pogba. I can't see us signing Grealish if Pogba is to stay, we just won't have the money if we want to/manage to sign Sancho.
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Grealish is only going to cost around 40m. That’s what my mate Aston Villa fan said a month and half ago. Your post makes it sounds like he’ll cost 60m at least.
 
UNITED ACADEMY said:
Grealish is only going to cost around 40m. That’s what my mate Aston Villa fan said a month and half ago. Your post makes it sounds like he’ll cost 60m at least.
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Why would your Villa-mate know more about him than other fans - does he sit on the board? It’s not like some Spurs-bloke knows more about Kane than we do, or whomever you pick. If you see all the games you see all the players, especialy the best ones. Grealish will not go for less than 55M, he is their nr. 1 player and won’t leave on a bad note given his history with them. Put 40M into perspective, it’s not what it used to be.
 
James Peril said:
Why would your Villa-mate know more about him than other fans - does he sit on the board? It’s not like some Spurs-bloke knows more about Kane than we do, or whomever you pick. If you see all the games you see all the players, especialy the best ones. Grealish will not go for less than 55M, he is their nr. 1 player and won’t leave on a bad note given his history with them. Put 40M into perspective, it’s not what it used to be.
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This was in March, a week before the Covid 19 became official pandemic.

First of all, let me give you brief explanation why I believe he is right at that time & is still be correct at this time. Price isn't just based on player's performance but you also need to look at the club's situation. They are financially in trouble and need money especially after spent 100m last summer and achieved nothing to pay their debt or make profit, when a team needs money, they are not in power to make the deal with crazy fees. Their situation is not the same as Leicester & Crystal Palace were last summer.

When you mentioned "other fans", I'm going to assume that you are referring to United fans especially the poster that I replied to. Why would United fans know more than Villa fans?

If you are referring to other Aston Villa fans then you're going to show me who are these Aston Villa fans?
 
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croadyman said:
Has your mate heard anything about any move for him for Utd
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This was in the beginning of March.

I only asked him because I knew Villa will lose Grealish next season without a doubt, so I asked him how much do you think he will go for (to any clubs), he thinks it'll be around 40s M something (assume if they barely survive from relegation).
 
£40m for Grealish would be great business. He’s such a throwback player and would add much needed swagger to our team. We need to ditch also rans like Lintard and Andreas.
 
I want us to sign Grealish and I am not really concerned with where he fits in the team nor in how many games he plays. He creates chances. He doesn't wilt in the face of strong opposition. As many have mentioned here, we again have a lot of players who need moving on, so there is room.
 
Adisa said:
I don't understand if our entire negotiation position is based on Villa getting relegated.
The rumour that he's got a release clause keeps popping up here and there.
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the Villa manager explicitly said he doesn't have one

i reckon he could be fairly cheap though, given Villa will need to sell
 
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