Ivan Rakitic

arthurka said:
Sanchez or Schweinsteiger ect
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So we’ve a mixed success rate with players over 29 and over is what you’re saying so we have to sign none of them and stick to players like Fred as they work out? Sanchez was 29 when he signed for United, that is not old for a player.
For me if scouted correctly players like Ibra, VDS are great additions, players who’ve are physically past their prime (which doesn’t have to be an age thing) shouldn’t be considered, but as ageism is rife on the Caf let’s bung players like Ibra, Ronaldo, Messi etc all in that group of players who’s bodies have been wrecked by injury or they’ve not looked after themselves correctly.
As for Rakitic I’d not want him at United, he’s not going to have the desire to push United forward. He’d simply be after a final big wage.
 
To slow and not mobile enough for the EPL.

He was never the quickest but one of his main attributes was his mobility and his stamina. But in the past couple of years now his mobility has significantly declined.
 
Alfarosi said:
I admire Man Utd fans, they think they can rebuild a winning team just with youngsters.

Obviuosly not, you might have to get some old players, probably overpaying them, just to build a base to let youngsters grow.
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Overpaying for declining veteran players isn't the way either buddy.
 
Wow really surprised people here dont want him. For the rumored price of $35 million he would be a bargain and he still has at least 2 good seasons in him. Plus we need to think short term. We need immediate help.

Theres a big difference for us if we make the Champions League next year so we need to be all in. Cant think of many players that can help us accomplish that than Rakitic.
Who would you rather go for in january? Sean Longstaff? Ya know what...lets worry about the future during summer.

We need the best team possible now. We need to either win the Europa League and qualify for CL or at least finish top 6 and be in Europa League next year.
Getting Rakitic is a must if possible IMO
The midfield of Rakitic Pogba McTominay doesnt look half bad. Looks very balanced too with Rakitic's passing and playmaking. Really would be the first time Pogba would have a player like that next to him since joining United.

Signing Rakitic again is a must.
 
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OleGunnar20 said:
Terrible idea. Would encapsulate all of the mistakes we've been making since Fergies departure...
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Exactly this.^^
Got a problem, stick a plaster on it and hope that the problem goes away.
If the problem doesn't go away, stick another plaster on it..!
 
HowYouDoin said:
Wow really surprised people here dont want him. For the rumored price of $35 million he would be a bargain and he still has at least 2 good seasons in him. Plus we need to think short term. We need immediate help.

Theres a big difference for us if we make the Champions League next year so we need to be all in. Cant think of many players that can help us accomplish that than Rakitic.
Who would you rather go for in january? Sean Longstaff? Ya know what...lets worry about the future during summer.

We need the best team possible now. We need to either win the Europa League and qualify for CL or at least finish top 6 and be in Europa League next year.
Getting Rakitic is a must if possible IMO
The midfield of Rakitic Pogba McTominay doesnt look half bad. Looks very balanced too with Rakitic's passing and playmaking. Really would be the first time Pogba would have a player like that next to him since joining United.

Signing Rakitic again is a must.
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Dude, Barca are in so much debt, there's no way they'd let him go for $35 million.
 
What would be our objective for buying Rakitic? Winning the Europa league. We need to be all in for that. Can he help in doing that? Hell yes.
Therefore go for him. Barca fans might not rate him as before but in all fairness, they're Barca. Their standards are currently different though Rakitic was irreplaceable for them not too long ago. Our standad is winning the Europa league by all means necessary. Therefore Rakitic is exactly what we need.
If we are going to go in for someone in january, we dont need a 20 year old that might pan out. We need a player that's been there, done that and can do it again in the next 6 months. Rakitic fits the bill, the only question is would he settle for playing for Europa's league after being in so many big matches with Barcelona and the Croatia national team?
 
Fracture90 said:
Overpaying for declining veteran players isn't the way either buddy.
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All football world knows how bad is the season going for Man Utd. These are panic buys and you always end up overpaying, even if is a young player.
 
United can sign midfielders for less than ££££££. Plenty of good midfielders are available:
  • From South America,
  • at the end of their contracts,
  • or who want to leave their clubs.
Players who are a huge improvement on Matic, Fred, Mata, and Pereira. We could sell those 4 and buy 5 better midfielders for the same money! For example:

Name ------------ Position -- Age -- Cost -- Contact end -- Opta Rate -- Club -------- Comment
de Arrascaeta ------ AM ------ 25 -- £12m ---- Dec 2023 --- 8.0 / 7.3 -- Flamengo ---- Passport: Italian. :devil:
Mario Gotze -------- AM ------ 27 -- £20m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 7.0 -- Dortmund
Christian Eriksen -- AM ------ 27 -- $90m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 7.0 -- Spurs ------- Wants Real Madrid
Ever Banega -------- M(C) ---- 31 -- £14m ---- Jun 2020 --- 7.0 / 7.1 -- Sevilla. :devil:
Luka Modric -------- M(C) ---- 34 -- £18m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.6 / 7.0 -- Real Madrid
Blaise Matuidi ----- M(C) ---- 32 -- £20m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 6.9 -- Juventus
Léo Cittadini------- M(C) ---- 25 --- £1m ---- Dec 2021 --- 7.0 / 6.5 -- Paranaense -- Passport: Italian
Ivan Rakitic ------- M(C) ---- 30 -- £32m ---- Jun 2021 --- 6.1 / 7.1 -- Barcelona --- Wants away. Replaced by de Jong
Bruno Guimarães ---- DMC ----- 21 --- £5m ---- Dec 2023 --- 7.1 / 6.8 -- Paranaense -- Passport: Spanish. :devil:
Gregore ------------ DMC ----- 25 --- £2m ---- Dec 2021 --- 7.1 / 7.1 -- Bahia ------- No EU passport.
Matheus Henrique --- DMC ----- 21 --- £6m ---- Dec 2023 --- 7.2 / 6.9 -- Gremio ------ No EU passport.
Emre Can ----------- DMC ----- 25 -- £30m ---- Jun 2022 --- 6.2 / 7.0 -- Juventus ---- Wants away.

Cost : TransferMarkt, rounded up.
Opta Rate : Average Opta match rating for league matches. This season and last
Club : Currently playing for. South Americans in blue

Buy: de Arrascaeta, Guimarães, Banega, plus another. Sell: Mata, Pereira, Matic, and Fred.
 
Alfarosi said:
All football world knows how bad is the season going for Man Utd. These are panic buys and you always end up overpaying, even if is a young player.
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At one point we gotta learn then, no panic buys then, be it young or old.
 
Mark Pawelek said:
United can sign midfielders for less than ££££££. Plenty of good midfielders are available:
  • From South America,
  • at the end of their contracts,
  • or who want to leave their clubs.
Players who are a huge improvement on Matic, Fred, Mata, and Pereira. We could sell those 4 and buy 5 better midfielders for the same money! For example:

Name ------------ Position -- Age -- Cost -- Contact end -- Opta Rate -- Club -------- Comment
de Arrascaeta ------ AM ------ 25 -- £12m ---- Dec 2023 --- 8.0 / 7.3 -- Flamengo ---- Passport: Italian. :devil:
Mario Gotze -------- AM ------ 27 -- £20m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 7.0 -- Dortmund
Christian Eriksen -- AM ------ 27 -- $90m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 7.0 -- Spurs ------- Wants Real Madrid
Ever Banega -------- M(C) ---- 31 -- £14m ---- Jun 2020 --- 7.0 / 7.1 -- Sevilla. :devil:
Luka Modric -------- M(C) ---- 34 -- £18m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.6 / 7.0 -- Real Madrid
Blaise Matuidi ----- M(C) ---- 32 -- £20m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 6.9 -- Juventus
Léo Cittadini------- M(C) ---- 25 --- £1m ---- Dec 2021 --- 7.0 / 6.5 -- Paranaense -- Passport: Italian
Ivan Rakitic ------- M(C) ---- 30 -- £32m ---- Jun 2021 --- 6.1 / 7.1 -- Barcelona --- Wants away. Replaced by de Jong
Bruno Guimarães ---- DMC ----- 21 --- £5m ---- Dec 2023 --- 7.1 / 6.8 -- Paranaense -- Passport: Spanish. :devil:
Gregore ------------ DMC ----- 25 --- £2m ---- Dec 2021 --- 7.1 / 7.1 -- Bahia ------- No EU passport.
Matheus Henrique --- DMC ----- 21 --- £6m ---- Dec 2023 --- 7.2 / 6.9 -- Gremio ------ No EU passport.
Emre Can ----------- DMC ----- 25 -- £30m ---- Jun 2022 --- 6.2 / 7.0 -- Juventus ---- Wants away.

Cost : TransferMarkt, rounded up.
Opta Rate : Average Opta match rating for league matches. This season and last
Club : Currently playing for. South Americans in blue

Buy: de Arrascaeta, Guimarães, Banega, plus another. Sell: Mata, Pereira, Matic, and Fred.
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Buying from the Brazilian league would be wise as they can actually come in Jan. Didn't realise Guimaraes had a Spanish passport., really like the look of him.
 
Lash said:
Buying from the Brazilian league would be wise as they can actually come in Jan. Didn't realise Guimaraes had a Spanish passport., really like the look of him.
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Supposedly has a €40m release clause and Spanish passport. I don't think he'd cost €40m, but surely at least €20m. He'll be a starter for us, and we should never have to watch Matic again; we can sell him. A much better signing for us than Rakitic. Likely cheaper. Not entirely different in style; because Bruno is an "attacking" defensive midfielder. Hopefully he can "free" Pogba too.
 
Mark Pawelek said:
United can sign midfielders for less than ££££££. Plenty of good midfielders are available:
  • From South America,
  • at the end of their contracts,
  • or who want to leave their clubs.
Players who are a huge improvement on Matic, Fred, Mata, and Pereira. We could sell those 4 and buy 5 better midfielders for the same money! For example:

Name ------------ Position -- Age -- Cost -- Contact end -- Opta Rate -- Club -------- Comment
de Arrascaeta ------ AM ------ 25 -- £12m ---- Dec 2023 --- 8.0 / 7.3 -- Flamengo ---- Passport: Italian. :devil:
Mario Gotze -------- AM ------ 27 -- £20m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 7.0 -- Dortmund
Christian Eriksen -- AM ------ 27 -- $90m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 7.0 -- Spurs ------- Wants Real Madrid
Ever Banega -------- M(C) ---- 31 -- £14m ---- Jun 2020 --- 7.0 / 7.1 -- Sevilla. :devil:
Luka Modric -------- M(C) ---- 34 -- £18m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.6 / 7.0 -- Real Madrid
Blaise Matuidi ----- M(C) ---- 32 -- £20m ---- Jun 2020 --- 6.7 / 6.9 -- Juventus
Léo Cittadini------- M(C) ---- 25 --- £1m ---- Dec 2021 --- 7.0 / 6.5 -- Paranaense -- Passport: Italian
Ivan Rakitic ------- M(C) ---- 30 -- £32m ---- Jun 2021 --- 6.1 / 7.1 -- Barcelona --- Wants away. Replaced by de Jong
Bruno Guimarães ---- DMC ----- 21 --- £5m ---- Dec 2023 --- 7.1 / 6.8 -- Paranaense -- Passport: Spanish. :devil:
Gregore ------------ DMC ----- 25 --- £2m ---- Dec 2021 --- 7.1 / 7.1 -- Bahia ------- No EU passport.
Matheus Henrique --- DMC ----- 21 --- £6m ---- Dec 2023 --- 7.2 / 6.9 -- Gremio ------ No EU passport.
Emre Can ----------- DMC ----- 25 -- £30m ---- Jun 2022 --- 6.2 / 7.0 -- Juventus ---- Wants away.

Cost : TransferMarkt, rounded up.
Opta Rate : Average Opta match rating for league matches. This season and last
Club : Currently playing for. South Americans in blue

Buy: de Arrascaeta, Guimarães, Banega, plus another. Sell: Mata, Pereira, Matic, and Fred.
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Yes there is plenty of others also, if scouts do their job.
 
Fof me no brainer here. He will be cheap in january, we need playmaker, he is not injury prone and we really really need a midfielder like him
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Fof me no brainer here. He will be cheap in january, we need playmaker, he is not injury prone and we really really need a midfielder like him
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He's a creative midfielder and one that keeps possession very well. Exactly what we need imo. Hes not 'too old and past it' as most posters on here have said. I think he would do very well in the PL with us.

We currently have Scott Mctominay, Fred Andreas who are hard working centre midfielders. Rakitic would fit right in I think. Not sure how he would fit with Pogba but he can be average and inconsistent so we absolutely need added quality in the squad. Get him in i say.
 
Suvvernmanc said:
He's a creative midfielder and one that keeps possession very well. Exactly what we need imo. Hes not 'too old and past it' as most posters on here have said. I think he would do very well in the PL with us.

We currently have Scott Mctominay, Fred Andreas who are hard working centre midfielders. Rakitic would fit right in I think. Not sure how he would fit with Pogba but he can be average and inconsistent so we absolutely need added quality in the squad. Get him in i say.
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Rakitic played with Iniesta for years and with Modric in NT. He can play classic mc without problem
 
Maybe he's not past it but he's not far off. Usually the only time we can get highly rated players, remember Schweinsteiger, past it and far too expensive. He had a great laugh at our expense.
 
I read somewhere that he already rejected us and he will pick between Inter and PSG. Apparently his wife is Spanish and she doesnt wanna live in Manchester so thats that.
 
He would struggle in the premier league - he’s not suited - maybe if he’d come a few years back he’d have been ok - however now - he’d quickly morph into Matic the 2nd

also he’s won everything so where would the hunger be? And a wife that moans like Di Maria about being here......

no thanks
 
Didn't even like this guy when he was in his prime.

I trust we won't make mistakes like this anymore.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
Fof me no brainer here. He will be cheap in january, we need playmaker, he is not injury prone and we really really need a midfielder like him
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Does him being Croatian help his cause too? I get it to an extent I suppose, but the Croatian posters on here are so loyal to their national players.
 
Judas said:
Does him being Croatian help his cause too? I get it to an extent I suppose, but the Croatian posters on here are so loyal to their national players.
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Not at all. I was the first who said that Mandzukic is not needed and that i don't want him. Even when we sold Lukaku on transfer deadline
Rakitic is fantastic midfielder and exactly what we need now. I want midfielder who actually has technique. Except Pogba we only have "hard working midfielders".
Only our players that i rate a lot and for who i think that are good for United are our midfield trio Modric-Rakitic- Brozovic
 
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Barca want twice what they paid for him. To them: he's deadwood they want to make a quick profit on. His wages will be high too. It's foolish to give long contracts to players over 30. One bad injury, or even many small ones, can destroy their careers. It's only worth buying him if we give him a 4, or 5 year contract. But we don't give such long contracts to players over 30, do we?
 
Not every player we sign can be early 20’s and our midfield is so threadbare I would jump at the chance of Rakitic.

I think alongside the youth and physicality of McT and the quality of Pogba he would fit in well and we could get 2 - 3 decent seasons out of him while adding the likes of Maddison and Kelvin Phillips next summer and we’d have a really good few options.

Pogba, McT and Rakitic would be a good midfield in the meantime.
 
There's just no way we're taking a €35 million risk on a grandad. The board will be too paranoid after the last Jose disaster specials - Matic and Alexis.
 
We were in for him while he was at Sevilla and he eventually ended up at Barcelona. Don't think he wants to come to us so I can believe the wife weather story tbh.
 
For around 30 million pounds a no brainer. He is never injured, a model professional who still wants to play and has been benched only because Arthur and De Jong are 10 years younger, not because he is bad. Can give 2 or 3 seasons at a high level.
 
Great player. Underrated in some ways but 3-5 years too late. In his prime he was an absolute beast and could play any position. His time time at Sevilla was his peak imo. One of the most versatile players i've seen in modern football.
 
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