First things first, every English team has money and don't need to sell. The only players I would consider getting from the PL would likely be Wan Bassaka and Ruben Neves. The other players are going to be extremely overpriced. With that being said, there are so many CBs around who may not be World Class at the moment but have tremendous potential.
Assuming De Ligt & Koulibaly are not attainable,
1. Dayot Upamecano
2. Ibrahima Konate
3. Milan Skriniar
4. Joachim Andersen
5. Nikola Milenkovic
6. Alessio Romagnoli
7. Jonathan Tah
8. Ruben Dias
I still don't believe we've bid 90m for him and had that rejected.
From the little Ive seen he already looks a better prospect than maguire. Much more athletic, good in the air and doesn't panic on the ball. I think we should stay far from maguire and sign this guy instead. Maguire is too slow for a high line I think.From little I’ve seen he looks good but if it isn’t a major price difference I’d rather Maguire.
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We haven't, that kind of money will land him here I think. Napoli won't be able to stop him taking last big contract. But apparently we are not spending that kind of money.
Well, if we're in for Maguire for stupid money, we could just pay a little more and get a better player.
Maguire interest is just paper talk, I doubt we will bid 80m for him. We no longer make purely footballing decisions under Woodward now. Probably the club thinking is koulibaly being 28 for that price is a bad deal and are not willing to spend that kind of money on him, without caring about getting the best squad out there competing for highest honours in the game.
We will not pay 80 million for Maguire. I don't think we will break the record for a CB.
If the most we will pay is 50million then we should go for a younger player like Milenkovic who I think will be a great leader eventually.
We already have the younger CBs who need to prove themselves covered with Lindelof and Bailly. Unless 1 goes we don't need another maybe. Its immediate reinforcement we need and Milenkovic has potential but he also has some days where he is found wanting.
Source?Media are reporting that this one still has some mileage in it.....
Selling Bailly would be the smart move, he is often injured and still very raw, then we replace him with someone like Diop.
Injuries can happen to anyone. I think Bailly will have a good season and play first choice if we don't bring in a CB.
What @JPRouve said. It's not the injuries that are the worry with him, it's the lack of concentration - eg PSG away, or rashness, eg late red against Bournemouth. He was a gamble to begin with, as he had very little top flight football before we went in for him, but he really has regressed over 2 seasons.Injuries can happen to anyone. I think Bailly will have a good season and play first choice if we don't bring in a CB.
Looks to me like we could play a lot less and get a better player.Well, if we're in for Maguire for stupid money, we could just pay a little more and get a better player.
Looks to me like we could play a lot less and get a better player.
If it's between Diop and Maguire, I'm kinda 50/50. I don't think West Ham will bend over and hand him to us. They'll likely squeeze us like Leicester. He's more athletic, young and can still improve. Maguire is maybe more useful in the dressing room, decent with the ball at his feet but pretty slow. Not sure how him and Lindelof will do together with that lack of pace.
How good is Diop playing out from the back?
Selling Bailly would be the smart move, he is often injured and still very raw, then we replace him with someone like Diop.
He had a very promising first season then injuries took their toll.Its frightening that people rate Bailly. I agree, he needs to be sold as soon as possible.
I expect Diop will partner either Linderof or Tuanzebe, so Diop won't be playing out much from the back. Diop can run with the ball and carry it out. As can all United's CBs. The problem they have is doing something useful with the ball when they find themselves on the edge of opps penalty area, or closed down by firm marking. Running with ball isn't CB's problem. It's losing concentration, making mistakes, not properly competing for headers at set pieces.If it's between Diop and Maguire, I'm kinda 50/50. I don't think West Ham will bend over and hand him to us. They'll likely squeeze us like Leicester. He's more athletic, young and can still improve. Maguire is maybe more useful in the dressing room, decent with the ball at his feet but pretty slow. Not sure how him and Lindelof will do together with that lack of pace.
How good is Diop playing out from the back?
You must frighten easily. Bailly has all the tools you'd want in a defender. You can't coach speed or height. Hopefully we can coach him up on on his rash decision making. Understandably, that would be the trait you'd be most concerned about. Based on some decent performances, I'd give him a shot under Ole before paying too much for Diop or Maguire when neither would be among the first 5 CB choices for most of us. Otherwise go all out for Koulibaly of bring in someone like Tah.Its frightening that people rate Bailly. I agree, he needs to be sold as soon as possible.
Not great, and thats what concerns me. Diop and Maguire seem like very different players, if we are in for one or the other, it suggests Ole hasnt got his mind set on the kind of CB he wants.
I expect Diop will partner either Linderof or Tuanzebe, so Diop won't be playing out much from the back. Diop can run with the ball and carry it out. As can all United's CBs. The problem they have is doing something useful with the ball when they find themselves on the edge of opps penalty area, or closed down by firm marking. Running with ball isn't CB's problem. It's losing concentration, making mistakes, not properly competing for headers at set pieces.
You must frighten easily. Bailly has all the tools you'd want in a defender. You can't coach speed or height. Hopefully we can coach him up on on his rash decision making. Understandably, that would be the trait you'd be most concerned about. Based on some decent performances, I'd give him a shot under Ole before paying too much for Diop or Maguire when neither would be among the first 5 CB choices for most of us. Otherwise go all out for Koulibaly of bring in someone like Tah.
Add a South African gangsta accent, and that sounds like Chappie talking football.This guy is decent on the ball. He his a tough guy a la Bailly, but a bit more composure. Aggressive and explosive. Against City, Liverpool quick attacking players. You need explosive cb to handle explosive attacking players. And of course you need a Kante or Fernandinho infront of them too. Too shield, protect and make it easier for them to defend.
No Kante and no Herrera. United are asking for troubles, even with Maguire or Diop. Or with De Ligt. They alone cant help United defensive problem last season.
Based on?Probably nothing in it but The Sun mentioned him again with our club.
How about we offer Lindelof or Smalling or even both and cash for this bloke. He is a young player with presence and along with Maguire we would be aerially the best in England and we would be a threat offensively as well.
Never going to happen though as Ole will stick with Lindelof regardless of how shaky he looks and the dodgy passes he regularly gives to whoever is playing at RB
