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Of course and you think the Palestinian propaganda machine doesn't work in the same way? Lot's of spurious sources, quoting all sorts of things a lot of which is nearly impossible to verify as true.

That's because Israel keeps murdering all the Journalists. How else is news meant to come out of Gaza.
 
It seems from the other replies that we have people who are in favor of concentration camps.

They are a lovely bunch those zionists.
 
Are you for real? What's the problem? The problem is that Hamas only ever came to be in existence because of the way Palestinians were treated and how their land was continually stolen from them. Being forced to live in apartheid conditions in a place named as 'The biggest open air prison on the planet' having freedoms stripped away, abject poverty, in fear of being arrested and held indefinitely without reason, beaten by Police or military and watching friends, family, neighbours suffer the same.

Now you are saying turning one large prison in to two after months of absolute destruction and tens of thousands of deaths and forcing millions of people to become refugees with the majority literally dying from starvation, is just Israel protecting itself.... Unbelievable.


It's just going make things worse. A lot fecking worse.

Frankie Boyle is right, completely psychopathic way of thinking.
Are you for real? What's the problem? The problem is that Hamas only ever came to be in existence because of the way Palestinians were treated and how their land was continually stolen from them. Being forced to live in apartheid conditions in a place named as 'The biggest open air prison on the planet' having freedoms stripped away, abject poverty, in fear of being arrested and held indefinitely without reason, beaten by Police or military and watching friends, family, neighbours suffer the same.

Now you are saying turning one large prison in to two after months of absolute destruction and tens of thousands of deaths and forcing millions of people to become refugees with the majority literally dying from starvation, is just Israel protecting itself.... Unbelievable.


It's just going make things worse. A lot fecking worse.

Frankie Boyle is right, completely psychopathic way of thinking.

Hamas didn't come into existence because of the treatment of Palestinians. They could not care less about the Palestinians. They care for the Palestinians as much as Netanyahu does and Egypt and all the other Middle Eastern countries.

They came into existence because they could not stand that a Jewish secular state could function as a thriving democracy in "their" land and so their objective has always been for the total destruction of Israel. On the other hand, the PLO, at least recognised Israel as a state, which is fundamental if there is to be any basis for a 2-State solution and why Israel and Palestinians have in the past held talks.
 
I have genuinely wondered whether they are misinformed or being malicious. I also noticed that neither really respond to points that aren't opinions and contradict their claims.

As an example there is no argument to be made around anyone turning Gaza into a better place unless IDF relinquish its current internationally recognized powers over the territory. I said before but IDF is in control of infrastructures and they are in control of the borders including imports, they have been enforcing a blockade with the help of Egypt for more than a decade, as things stands you couldn't turn Gaza into Mogadishu let alone Dubai and it's not due to gazans.
I honestly have no problem with someone who doesn't follow the news, has no clue about what's happening there and then spouts similar crap. Ignorance is bliss. I'm much less forgiving toward people who are informed and have more than two brain cells to rub together, which is the case with these two who obviously have a skin in the game.

GiggsyPO is desperately trying to defend Israel even if it means clutching at straws and willfull blindness. I get where he's coming from even if he's misguided. I do however consider gtfactor86's takes as genuinely sociopathic with a healthy dose of fanaticism.

They don't reply to the points that contradict their claims because they'd immediately be smashed in the face by facts posted by their own army and government. And they know it. At this point, there's no informed person with basic human decency who'd go along with or justify what's being done right now in Gaza, unless being indoctrinated and/or a staunch racist. So they do what the Israeli propaganda does, distract, gaslight and wind up.

We had three Israeli posters whose point of view was really worth listening to and gave us valuable input. Sadly, they don't post here anymore or too rarely. Instead, we have these two.
 
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:lol: boxes with photos of hostages... That's pretty silly of these clever terrorists. What an amazing find....
And they write their names in English not Arabic in order to make it look like the Israeli army has faked the whole thing.

Hamas are next level sneaky!
 
And they write their names in English not Arabic in order to make it look like the Israeli army has faked the whole thing.

Hamas are next level sneaky!

They also seemingly take good care of the hostages' health and are well organized. No mistakes will be made when it comes to medical prescriptions.
 
:lol: boxes with photos of hostages... That's pretty silly of these clever terrorists. What an amazing find....
5D chess move, I tell ya :lol: .

The tragic bit is that there's people falling for it, including the one who posted it thinking he scored a worldie.

@Giggsy PO, nice try despite the own goal. Thoughts, prayers and all that.
 
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It's funny because when anyone posts anything anti-Israel it's treated as fact. If anyone posts anything that can be consider pro-Israel it's treated as lies
A fact they're not helping by being lying, murderous psychopaths.
 
A fact they're not helping by being lying, murderous psychopaths.

Like when Hamas captured the hostages and took them into Gaza on pick up trucks. Crowds of jubilant Palestinians spitting and beating their dead bodies as they drove through.

Murderous psychopaths.
 
:lol: boxes with photos of hostages... That's pretty silly of these clever terrorists. What an amazing find....
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the source

@Giggsy PO
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I think its abhorrent. Not sure why they feel the need to do it.

Happened with the British/US army at Abu Gharib and let's not forget Hamas used bodycams to document their brutality and streamed on Facebook Live to the victims friend's and family.
 
Yes of course, anything from Israel can only be a lie. Anything from The Hamas Ministry of Health is the gospel.

You still did not answer my question? Where is the Hamas Command center under Al shifaa hospital you claimed it was there?
 
The problem it is not their fecking land. FFS how is this not a problem to you?

I assume he thinks it's their land to start with or to the victor goes the spoils. Those seem to be the prevalent arguments on twitter.

There's a lot of them on twitter claiming they don't need to give Palestinians a state as they've won and can do as they wish. Basically admitting it as an invasion force all along.
 
Begs the question of how long the management at Shifa hospital and NGOs like the Red Cross and UNWRA have known about Hamas operating in the hospital. Contrary to what they have been saying the whole time

Where is the command/operation center under Al Shifa Hospital?

I aksed you in November?
Are you ever going to answer?
 
Don't understand why posters are bothering with these trolls anymore.

I mean you are literally arguing with people making excuses for murdering children.

 
Don't understand why posters are bothering with these trolls anymore.

I mean you are literally arguing with people making excuses for murdering children.



God that made me burst in tears. Despite me saying I will never stop posting until justice for innocent people in Palestine prevails, I do not think I can take it any more.
 
So you ignored my question above. Bravo.
He’s ignoring any question that makes him question or critically think about his abhorrent beliefs. I’ve posed a few questions to him a few days ago asking what he thinks of, what he would term, antisemitic Jews such as Chomsky, Pappe, Finkelstein etc which he just ignores. He’s best ignored himself if he doesn’t wish to engage with others honestly and intellectually.
 
I think its abhorrent. Not sure why they feel the need to do it.

Happened with the British/US army at Abu Gharib and let's not forget Hamas used bodycams to document their brutality and streamed on Facebook Live to the victims friend's and family.

This is trivialising the crimes being committed by the IDF today, in a way that could very easily be illegal in 50 years time.