America and Iraqi Air Force currently in action. Numbers currently around 40k apparently, most of them have never held a gun before though.
ISIS in Iraq and Syria
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Literally thousands of people will die this week from thirst if they're not saved. They're on a fecking mountain with nothing.
Absolute madness this. Groups of savages running riot with the deterioration of Arab states. Beyond ridiculous how rivalry within the Arab world yields incomprehensible magnitudes of murder. What's not surprising is that nobody gives a feck.
Ban Ki Moon is not thirsty, is he?
Their fighters are too scattered for the Air Force to be of much help, particularly as the pilots aren't experienced enough to carry out effective missions.
International intervention required. Get aid and weaponry to those fighting and make sure these rats are wiped out.
It's a pathological problem in the arab world. An internal bloodbath is simply a civil struggle.
I've spoken to my Iraqi compatriots who harp on wax lyrical about the situation in Gaza (and trust me I'm all for Palestinian solidarity), yes remain introspectively ignorant to the injustices that linger within their own borders.
There's no hope for the arab world if they can't introspectively conjure up the compassion to be outraged at the atrocities happening closer to home.
Surely, there must be a way to help these people? It's absolutely sickening what these ISIS c*nts are getting away with. Even more sickening that most of the Arab leaders are all absolutely fecking useless and don't seem to care about what's happening.
A member of the Iraqi parliament pleading to the government (and the parliament) to save the Yazidis from ISIS.
Genuine question now: What is stopping countries such as the USA, UK etc from sending aid or weapons to fight ISIS? They're one of the causes of this mess so they should help Iraq get out of it.
"Condemning" the violence is the worst thing that I hear. Are ISIS going to stop beheading people because some American condemns it?
"Condemning" the violence is the worst thing that I hear. Are ISIS going to stop beheading people because some American condemns it?
Vice News have some kind of documentary of their coverage on the 'Islamic State' coming out tomorrow (I think) which will hopefully draw some much needed attention.
Who else is covering this? There's a tiny spec of a mention right at the bottom of the Sky News website, nothing on BBC, Al Jazeera is purely concentrated on Gaza...
Who else is covering this? There's a tiny spec of a mention right at the bottom of the Sky News website, nothing on BBC, Al Jazeera is purely concentrated on Gaza...
I don't think we know what we are doing; everything we try turns into a bloodbath. Intervene, don't intervene, send arms, don't send arm, engage with regime disengage ETC ETC. Nothing we do works or even seems to help at all.
For shame. Thousands are without food and water for days and not a word is being said. Disgraceful.
BBC news just reported it for 30 seconds, literally.
Oh for feck sake. The guy who got his foot stuck under the train got more coverage than the situation in the mountains. 
IAF pilots are available until Friday morning. They'd take them ISIS folks out in no time, scattered or not. Would it get us some.much needed international backing?
Oh for feck sake. The guy who got his foot stuck under the train got more coverage than the situation in the mountains.
sadly the kurdish people have no lobby in western countries. I dont really know why there is so little interest from politicians and from the media. There is so much bullshit talk about democracy and human rights and at the same time almost all western countries ignore the group of people who are actually fighting for it. Not sure if it has anything to do with the connection to turky (NATO member) or if its just ignorance. I guess its a mix of both.
The Qataries basically fund both ISIS and Hamas, don't they? Of course AJ would be focusing on Gaza.
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This will definitely be a genocide.
I think it will require another invasion to be honest. This time from Turkey.
I wouldn't want the US or the UK anywhere near Iraq anymore. They're responsible for this whole fracas to begin with.
The Iraqis need to stop being petulant with their sectarian differences and realise this is a serious, grave threat. I'm not holding my breath though.
Someone catch me up. I heard on the radio that 50,000 people are surrounded on a barren mountain? That can't be right, can it?
Yeah because the first invasion worked brilliantly didnt it?
Who gives a feck. If it stops a genocide then we should all be for it.
40,000 members of the ancient Yezidi tribe have hidden in mountains. They're essentially trapped since if they try to escape they'll likely be butchered by the ISIS cnuts surrounding them, though if they stay put they'll likely die of dehydration. Iraqi government doesn't give a toss and the politicians in Baghdad are still posturing over trivial political matters.
What makes you think the Turks will be up for it anyway? I'm sure they're quite happy watching the Peshmerga losing their lives trying to tackle this threat.
whats this thing about 500 women
I didn't say the Turks would do it. The US should and would if the right people pull their heads out.
That's not going to happen.
If the Iraqi government work alongside the Yanks, the Sunnis will see it as a traitorous conspiracy and it will play into ISIS's propaganda. The hardline Shia militias will also consider it a betrayal and will break off too in hostility. Basically it'll regress to 2003-2009 levels of violence.
Political jostling will all be irrelevant if there's mass genocide. Everyone will be on the same page, even the Iranians.
Would you support a US invasion if it curbed an ISIS genocide of minority groups ?
I didn't support a US invasion despite knowing it'll be the end of a dictator I abhorred and my family had suffered endlessly at the hands of. It seems that stance was retrospectively dignified.
I'm OK with the Iranians or Syrians offering us some firepower and air support, but ultimately this problem isn't going to be fixed for the long term if the Iraqis pull their finger out.
Even if the Yanks or whoever came in guns blazing and quelled their threat and went home, if the Iraqis can't learn to mobilise and unite to deal with these grave threats, the problem will just recur in the future.
I agree with you Kaos. The ISIS problem won't go away with a US invasion, as they would simply hop across the Syrian border. Although it would certainly reduce their territory and save the lives of a lot of Iraqi minorities, including Yazidis, Christians, Turkomen etc.
Put it this way - if the Iraqis support a precise and coordinate US attack (not boots on the ground) then I'll be compelled to back them. I still think its a bad idea.
Kurds seem to have a decent amount of militias. Just give them some money, modern equipment, intelligence about ISIS troop movement and if needed support them with special forces.
The bare minimum should be lifting the embargo on selling oil.
The bare minimum should be lifting the embargo on selling oil.
I don't pemanently live in Iraq so its not fair I make a sanctimonious stance without living the reality and fear on the ground.
Its still a bad idea, and I fear I'll be proved right (again).
Its still a bad idea, and I fear I'll be proved right (again).
That's not a bad shout. Erdrogran will be shitting that notion though.
The other problem is would the Kurds bother venturing beyond their territory to finish ISIS off should they venture south?