ISIS in Iraq and Syria

Interesting articleon why someone chooses to watch the beheading videos:

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/on-watching-gore-and-death-online/?mbid=social_twitter

Why I Can’t Stop Watching Horrifying ISIS Decapitation Videos

Even though every caution label and trigger warning screamed at me not to, and even though I knew what would happen to my head and my stomach if I did, I watched the video of the Jordanian pilot being burned alive by ISIS militants. (The video is not linked there, by the way.)
In another iteration of my existence, I’d like to join the well-intentioned ranks of Twitter users who advocate for ignoring the ISIS videos, but I haven’t. I’d like to say it’s not my fault, that a sickness inside me made me watch. That as a writer and editor, knowing about violence and death is, you could say, part of my job. It’s my duty to find and face the details.

Except my beat is not international terrorism. And it wasn’t until I’d seen the screenshots—and the warnings about how graphic the video was—that I started to think about it, what it might look like. About what this pilot’s life had been like. What his death had been like.

Whether or not a person should have access to this kind of footage is well-trodden territory for many arguments related to freedom of speech. Media want clicks and shocking, provocative content gets clicks. Protectors of hearts and heads think such content is harmful and shouldn’t be available. Proponents of The Truth say if you’re censoring, you’re not telling the whole story. Last week, Piers Morgan wrote in the Daily Mail that everybody should see the videos, saying that for him, watching them “allows me to feel such uncontrollable rage that no amount of reasonable argument will ever temper it.” The Internet is the perfect place for all these positions, because all of them can exist in one huge, confusing space. You have access to anything you want, but you get to decide what to look at, and here’s where all of it is, so stick to your position. Or don’t.

Of course, it’s possible to know of what’s going on without exposing yourself to explicit violence. Traditional news outlets like the New York Times offer a sanitized, mostly safe description using vaguery and euphemism. But that’s a tease, too. And just how much teasing of a bad thing can you do before your audience wants all of the bad thing and more? Images can be stark and terrifying, but they also naturally provide a kind of curiosity gap, especially when video is available. And I’m deeply, disturbingly stuck in that curiosity gap.

It happened a little while ago: I’d never even heard of BestGore.com until that story about the Cannibal Cop. You remember that story from last year? The guy had a fetish for cooking and eating women, and he sought out realizations of that fantasy online, reportedly at sites like BestGore.com. Which made me go, “Oh, what’s at BestGore.com?”

Which is not really the question I was asking. The question was: What does it look like when a woman is cooked and eaten? And then the question becomes: What does it feel like to be cooked? And if you knew, after you were dead, that you had been eaten, what kind of humiliation and devastation would you feel?

Those are the questions I assume I’m looking for answers to when I dig my way through search results into the disgusting depths of BestGore and LiveLeak to watch James Foley’s decapitation and Muath al-Kaseasbeh’s immolation. I turn my laptop away from my husband, mute the volume, and let the horror make my head go dizzy and my stomach turn upside-down. Sometimes he catches me.

Last night he said, “What is wrong with your face? Why do you look like that?”

I guess that’s what I look like when I watch a man beaten brutally with a tire iron, then moved on to his side to be stabbed dozens of times around his spinal cord, which will not immediately kill him (the snarky commentary explains in the video description) but will leave him conscious for more torture before he eventually succumbs to his bludgeoning.

Why do I do this to myself?

Here’s the thing. I am not a fan of horror movies. I hate violence on TV. I refuse to watch “Game of Thrones” because of what people tell me is unprecedented levels of brutality. For a while, I wondered why a “Game of Thrones” decapitation makes me turn my head, but then I dedicate minutesto searching and finding a video of Nick Berg having his head sawed off.

I am not alone.

Studies have explored these inclinations. Some suggest that we want to be prepared for the worst, so the implausibility of horror movies moves us to consider abstract environments from which we might someday be able to escape, if we’re prepared.

Thing is, when it is fiction it is escapism. Kenji Goto’s decapitation is not. It is the very opposite of escapism. It’s hyper-reality and it is devastating.

Here’s what I think when I choose to face this hyper-reality from the comfort of my home: How are Foley and Goto and Daniel Pearl so calm before they’re gored? Are they on drugs? Could their murderers be humane enough to sedate them before cutting into their necks? Or are they so psychologically battered from captivity that they’re paralyzed?

I guess I’m just so scared of death that I’ve become obsessed with looking at it and trying to understand it. How much it will hurt. How sad and scared and furious I’ll be when I die. I’ve watched maybe a hundred of the worst kinds of deaths and I still can’t find peace with the knowledge that I will die—and maybe horribly. Car crash. Plane crash. Home invasion. Homefire. Cancer. Mass shooting. And maybe I shouldn’t be at peace with that. These people certainly didn’t get to be.

I like to think I’m not like the commenters on BestGore—who call murdered women “bitches who deserved it” and LOL at “incompetent” Mexican drug lords who have to switch knives partway through a decapitation because theirs aren’t sharp enough to cut through the neck tendons of their victims. But I am like them. I am clicking. I am driving traffic. I am letting the creators of these videos know their headlines are SEO-engineered effectively. I’m part of the problem. Am I “informed”? Am I, like Piers Morgan, enraged beyond reasonable argument? Am I going to enlist in the military?

I think not. I’m just scared.

There’s a part in the Muath al-Kaseasbeh video, just before the fire reaches the cage, when al-Kaseasbeh puts his hands together in what I assume was prayer. If it was prayer, did it help him through the agony and the terror of his death? I hope it helped. And for the people who loved him who also watched the video—and God I hope they didn’t—I hope it brought them some small comfort.

I know I am contributing to the humiliation and dehumanization of the victims whose deaths are caught on video. Knowing that millions of people— including your family and your friends and your enemies—will watch what should be your private, natural death must be an added psychological torment. And I can’t apologize enough to them for contributing to it. My guilt doesn’t absolve me of my voyeurism. It only makes me more a part of these victims’ abuse and pain. I’m doing what the bad guys want us all to do, which is: watch.
 
It is an interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing. I guess morbid curiosity is a real thing. I've personally never watched the videos and any kind of real hardcore violence of the type the writer mentions. The reasoning is complicated but one of the main reasons is just empathy with the families of the victims. Another main one is the descriptions already tell us what it is so I'm not relly getting any new information from the visual experience.

I'll also add that it's very strange to me that she doesn't like violent movies/tv shows but is so drawn to the clips of the real thing.
 
Great Jihadi video released recently, by a group that's not ISIS but fighting in Syria. It's not a parody.

 
That is an interesting take on the vids, I admit I have seen a few of them with half closed eyes, ready to hit the stop button - but it's a long while since the last one since it does affect your mental health. Some of her points would apply to me as well, but for me it's mainly about understanding, not really fear. You do wonder what goes through the minds of not just the victims, but also the perpetrators, when you see this kinda stuff.

Some years ago I was deeply obsessed with the Holocaust, and was reading a lot of literature, watching documentaries, going to museums etc. on the topic, trying to understand what the hell was going on. Some of the books were endless descriptions of what went on in the camps, or under the nazi regime in general. I also spent hours trying to find pictures and videos of the stuff, from Auschwitz to Babi Yar or other scenes of crime. I came to a point where I found it almost frustrating that I couldn't find a photo of the actual gassing in Auschwitz. I had read descriptions of what happened inside the gas chamber, but I found it hard to take it in when I had to visualize it myself.

In this case the perpetrators didn't want the common man to see these scenes. They were secretly ashamed of their deeds in some kinda drunken proud way only a die hard nazi can understand, I presume. There are just a handful of pictures and videos of these things, and they're not in HD and colors.

For me it was, and still is, all about understanding, like I said, both victims and perpetrators. There are so many questions that need answers. It also fills you with rage, depression, confusion, and fear that these kinda dark forces will reawaken - even in modern Europe. A kinda comforting thought is that I hope the perpetrators will bear the scars of their deeds with them the rest of their lives. No matter how much of a stone faced psychopath you are, there will come a point where the past takes over and shrouds a dark cloud of self loathing over your mind - even when you still try to convince yourself you did the right thing. If these executioners wake up screaming in the middle of the night, unable to control themselves, because of what they did, that's a small victory for the victims.
 
ISIS paraded 17 Peshmerga around the town of Hawija, SW of Kirkuk, in cages. They are threatening to burn them in the same way that they burnt the Jordanian pilot.
 
Great Jihadi video released recently, by a group that's not ISIS but fighting in Syria. It's not a parody.



Beheadings and torching caged people is so much more scary than reading from an A4 sheet when a bunch of Jihadists take a driving lesson in the background.
 
@Suli Good post, thanks for the map. I think that may clear up a lot for many people, as most of these names don't mean much when you simply hear it on the radio (unless you know about the country).
 
thats what ISIS want anyway, plus - many will see it as an attavk on sunni islam seeing as, in their eyes, America hasnt done anything to get Assad out of Syria.

It wont happen.
 
Any figures regarding Jordan's disproportionate response to the death of one of their combatants? Where are Bob and his independent news outlet when you need them most?
 
ISIS released a video of them beheading 21 Christians.
 
They're claiming it as revenge for this story from 2010/11, they made a big issue of it in the latest edition of their English-language magazine (Dabiq) - http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2010/1014/eg8.htm

Looks like the main aim is to put the newly declared Libyan provinces firmly on the IS map.

(Edit): they also mention it as revenge for bin Laden, and give the usual promise to conquer Rome.
 
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It was all together simultaneously, on a beach in Libya.
 
fecking hell, was it all in quick succession?
Yeah they lined them up and beheaded them after some mumbo jumbo about bin Laden and the sea. Then they said they're coming for Rome (probably just a metaphor for the Western world).
 
From Reddit:
I nearly had a heart attack watching this video when I found out who was about to be killed. I apologize if I become impassioned in this comment.

For those who do not want to watch the horrific video:

The video starts off with Daesh fighters marching civilians along on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea, near the capital of Libya in Tripoli. After they make the civilians sit on the knees, they reveal that they are the 21 kidnapped Libyan Coptic Church followers captured earlier in the week.

As the Daesh fighters draw their guns towards these Christians, the executioner, in an olive-green balaclava, begins his speech. He has an accent that I can't quite put my finger on, so I would encourage anyone to identify it for me.

He begins by saying that this message is to show that the fighters of Islam are ever nearer to the beaches of Rome, the Crusaders. The executioner makes special use to point out that the Isa (Alayhi-salaam) of Islam is the Jesus of Christianity, to drive the point home to the "Crusaders" that they believe in the same prophet, only that Islam's is true and the Christian's version of events is false.

The executioner makes this chilling point to the "Crusaders" very clear:

"The sea that you have hidden Shaykh Usama in, we will mix it with your blood."

The video lingers on the captives for about a half-minute, showing them making prayers before their death.

Then, the Daesh fighters brutally decapitate the captives in a swooping dolly shot, not even bothering to hide the actual act of beheading like they did in previous productions. After placing the captives' heads on their bodies, it is revealed that this execution was revenge for the murder of Kamilia Shehata, a woman who converted to Islam and was then forcibly converted back to the Coptic Church, tortured, and then murdered.

The exeuctioner then announces that Daesh will conquer Rome, proceeding to wash the dead captives' blood into the sea, coloring it red.
 
Yeah they lined them up and beheaded them after some mumbo jumbo about bin Laden and the sea. Then they said they're coming for Rome (probably just a metaphor for the Western world).

Kind of strange almost, since they often seemed to prefer making a scene out of each individual murder. Any idea why they've went back to beheading after their recent burning people alive?
 
Kind of strange almost, since they often seemed to prefer making a scene out of each individual murder. Any idea why they've went back to beheading after their recent burning people alive?
The burning thing was justified by ISIS because he was a pilot who dropped bombs and that, these 21 Christians haven't done that. Beheading is the standard thing they do, the burning in the cage was an exception.

They've done mass beheadings before, with the Syrian Arab Army last year.
 
When will there be an international coalition to send ground troops in and annihilate these animals?
Sending in any Western ground troops would just make the situation million times worst. As this is what ISIS want, they want a war between Islam and the West/rest of the world. Mainly because they think they can win as they have GOD on their side and because they don't fear death(It just another way to get to Paradise). Although on a plus side they are shit scared of getting killed by female soldiers(As getting killed by a female could stop them from getting to Paradise, yes it really is this bat shit crazy)

I do agree that there should more of a effort international(As well as the situation with boko haram in Africa)
 
When will there be an international coalition to send ground troops in and annihilate these animals?

Haven't had a good crusade in about 700 years. Clearly the Pope should get the band back together.
 
Sending in any Western ground troops would just make the situation million times worst. As this is what ISIS want, they want a war between Islam and the West/rest of the world. Mainly because they think they can win as they have GOD on their side and because they don't fear death(It just another way to get to Paradise). Although on a plus side they are shit scared of getting killed by female soldiers(As getting killed by a female could stop them from getting to Paradise, yes it really is this bat shit crazy)

I do agree that there should more of a effort international(As well as the situation with boko haram in Africa)
Huh, so mainly because they think they have god on their side and they don't fear death it would be a bad idea to send in ground troops? Is it better to do nothing and let them slaughter innocent people by the masses?

feck that, send in troops and let them meet their maker for once and for all.
 
Huh, so mainly because they think they have god on their side and they don't fear death it would be a bad idea to send in ground troops? Is it better to do nothing and let them slaughter innocent people by the masses?

feck that, send in troops and let them meet their maker for once and for all.
Reminds me of some cringe FB photo I saw.

"It is God who judges what to do with ISIS. But it is the Peshmerga that arrange the meeting."
 
Huh, so mainly because they think they have god on their side and they don't fear death it would be a bad idea to send in ground troops? Is it better to do nothing and let them slaughter innocent people by the masses?

feck that, send in troops and let them meet their maker for once and for all.

I image even from a military perspective it wouldn't make any sense(Although I'm only guessing) as Isis are pretty small compare to actual national army's(If the West really wanted to they could blow Isis out). So there no serious risk or enough of a risk to send in troops in(Yes I know that sounds fecking awful). The biggest risk Isis poses to the West is a couple of brainwashed 20 year old kids with machine guns

The kurds in Iraq seem to be doing well in fighting against Isis(Again I know this all sounds fecking awful when we are talking about people being killed).

I did say the rest of the international community should be doing a lot more but I think it's best if this work is done a distance.
 
#christianlivesmatter ?? Let's see if we have muslims hold protests, use this hash tag to condemn what their brethern are doing. I won't hold my breath, though.

This is what we are dealing with. This barbarity in the name of their prophet, of their god, of their religion: Islam.

Gays, feminists, truly liberal people and everyone with a sane heart unspoilt by religious doctrine should stand up against this blatant barbarity.
 
Huh, so mainly because they think they have god on their side and they don't fear death it would be a bad idea to send in ground troops? Is it better to do nothing and let them slaughter innocent people by the masses?

feck that, send in troops and let them meet their maker for once and for all.

You volunteering to go?