Is there a need to spend massive transfer fees?

[The Mitcher]

What's worse is there is no strategy from United for the past 10 years or even the past 5 years.

You need a clear strategy and strong and smart sporting director and a manager you trust.

Mistake in transfers happens all the time. Just because you buy someone for 100 million does not mean he will be better than someone signed for 25 million.

United need to trust Ten Hag and give him 3-4 years.

How when he also doesn't have any strategy and doesn't appear to know what he wants and which players he actually needs.

 

[Tyrion]

It's not a matter of spending big. You need to spend big. It's the matter of spending them on random players with no clue how to use them.

Pogba was a great player back in 2016 but he was a huge misfit at United and it was clear United had no clue what to do with him. This is applicable to most of our business. Now we spent 60m on Mount who isn't just an average player, but it's clear he has no role in current United set up.

Clubs identify their weaknesses then buy players with a profile that might fix it. United buy players firs then try to figure out how to integrate them into the team.

Total and complete lack of strategy in building the team is what ruined United as a football club, and we are showing no signs of improvement regarding this anytime soon going by the last 2 markets.

Bruno, Varane and Casemiro suggest there's been some improvement. I also think you're judging Mount too fast

 

[el3mel]

Bruno, Varane and Casemiro suggest there's been some improvement. I also think you're judging Mount too fast

Casemiro is short term fix we spent 60m or more on. He's not someone whom we are going to build our future upon. I'm not sure how can that be considered a good businesses. Great player but not really a good business for the future.

Varane is more acceptable as we paid 40m for a 28 years old player which is fair enough. That and Bruno are good deals but 2 good business in what, 4 years? Pretty bad ratio.

 

[peridigm]

We have been a disaster with how we've spent our transfer kitty since Ferguson left.
We'vs spent:
€105m on Pogba
€95m on Antony
€87m on Maguire
€85m on Sancho
€85m on Lukaku
€75m on Di Maria
€64m on Mount
€42m on Mkhitaryan
€39m on Van De Beek
€38m on Bailly

Is there really a need to spend massive fees on players. We could of had Caicedo for just over €5m two years ago.
Kobie Mainoo looks very promising for the DM position.
We've got Garnacho and Pellistri for €8.5m in total and they look far more promising than Antony and Sancho who we spent €180m on.
We sold Smalling for chips who would have been a better option for us than €87m Maguire.
Eriksen on a free is very good business.

I get spending big is required sometimes. We needed a top quality GK and I think Onana will be worth the money. Casemiro steadied the ship last season.

Surely signings like Amrabat for just over €30m are the type we need to pursuing more often. Would take the pressure off the players involved too.

Now do one with wages.

 

[Tyrion]

Casemiro is short term fix we spent 60m or more on. He's not someone whom we are going to build our future upon. I'm not sure how can that be considered a good businesses. Great player but not really a good business for the future.

Varane is more acceptable as we paid 40m for a 28 years old player which is fair enough. That and Bruno are good deals but 2 good business in what, 4 years? Pretty bad ratio.

It's definitely a bad ratio but our business over the previous 6 years was almost entirely bad imo. 2 good signings out of 10 is better than the 0 out 15 we were at before.

And I agree about Casemiro. Really we should be going for players like Camavinga. Why get Casemiro when we can get the guy who replaced him?

 

[Tyrion]

Only when a club's scouting department and "director of football" are feckless and brainless.

Even on the rare occasions City spend next to nothing, they sign players who would walk into our starting eleven. Alvarez, Kovacic, Akanji...

Having said that it's obvious Enzo and Rice will prove themselves worth their price tags. And we could have easily signed either had we not spent £125m on Casemiro and Mount. We spend big on moronic targets, that's all it comes down to.

Yep. That's why it annoys me when people like Goldbridge and McKola rant about the club not spending enough. We spend enough on players. The problem is our incompetent management (Woodward and Arnold) are allowed to continue despite constantly screwing up even when they do spend big money.

 

[Tap]

2 games in and Mount is already listed as a disaster. Goodness me.

Can’t blame the OP though, looking at how most of the flagship expensive buys have turned out.

 

[Tyrion]

Can’t blame the OP though, looking at how most of the flagship expensive buys have turned out.

I think a lot of people do that. When City spend 80m, it's barely mentioned in the media. When we spend anywhere like the same, it's a big deal. Part of is is no-one cares about City but I do think people are skeptical of any of our signings and they're right.

 

[RedRonaldo]

If 100m signing can win you a CL, every top club in Europe will be winning one. Truth is even Messi failed to win one over past 8 seasons in Europe.