Is The Title Race Over If Lose Against Arsenal?

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We have had some good and lucky matches lately, and looks to be gaining form.

However, we are just table-climbing at the moment.

What happens if we lose against Arsenal on hometurf coming weekend?

Is the title-race over then?
 
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The ABU undercover scousers are licking their wounds and crawling out from under their stones. :rolleyes:
 
Well its not over, but its suddenly more difficult...

"Never give up....Never surrender..." :)
 
Originally posted by Private PeeWee:
<strong>What happens if we lose against Arsenal on hometurf coming weekend?

Is the title-race over then?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Top tip. In English football, nothing's over in December.

We're gonna beat the Gooners anyway.


:D
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Originally posted by FresnoBob:
<strong>Gooner I am, but I do recall the immortal words of the famous *********** Lawrence (Yogi) Berra: "It ain't over 'til it's over."</strong><hr></blockquote>

Or in the case of the Premier League, "each season ain't over 'til mid-May" <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" />
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Originally posted by redinsyd:
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Or in the case of the Premier League, "each season ain't over 'til mid-May" <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

For two or three select teams, perhaps. Of course, for Bolton, West Ham, and the other bottom feeders, the season ended around September 28th. :)
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Originally posted by Private PeeWee:
<strong>We have had some good and lucky matches lately, and looks to be gaining form.

However, we are just table-climbing at the moment.

What happens if we lose against Arsenal on hometurf coming weekend?

Is the title-race over then?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who the feck cares, let's try our best and see what happens. How about some of you people starting negative posts all of the time actually posting something positive.

If we lose, we lose, if we dont, we don't.

Fecking people with crystal balls. Over not over, this and that. :rolleyes:

We fecking beat the scousers yesterday, be happy!
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One game at a time in my opinion, its Burnley tommorrow night, it may not be classed as a big game, but its better to walk away with something from that than nothing at all . . .

We'll deal with Arsenal next.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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If we lose, we lose, if we dont, we don't.

Fecking people with crystal balls. Over not over, this and that. :rolleyes:

We fecking beat the scousers yesterday, be happy!</strong><hr></blockquote>

:cool: That the spirit! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> ;)
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How about this for an idea.

We have two more forums. A glass half empty one and a glass half full one.

Then those of us who enjoy a modicum of optimism at times can do so.
 
certainly not, when Keane and Beckham come back to play, who cares that you have a bunch of french fries in the team?
 
No way is it over , nomatter what happens on Saturday .

Not withstanding your injuries you have held on doggedly to keep in touch . Your lesser knowns have done well.

You'll get stronger when Keane returns , although imo you won't see him match fit until the new year or even Feb which may be just a little late .

I look at it this way . You have good players to come back , you have good players who have yet to hit real form ( Giggs Scholes ) and your current crop have proved they can stay with the pace .

You will be in there for the shout .

I know I am a Gooner etc etc , BUT to be really honest here our squad IS currently stronger in depth and quality and should we maintain near top form consistently I don't think it will matter what you do , in my opinion .

BUT of course till the fat lady sings.......

Lets hope for a cracker on Saturday

2-3 to the Gunners I think , I hope
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>How about this for an idea.

We have two more forums. A glass half empty one and a glass half full one.

Then those of us who enjoy a modicum of optimism at times can do so.</strong><hr></blockquote>

which cup, i mean which forum would you belong in then :p

(not that i get which is which :confused: :p )
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If we lose I'm going to hang myself by the nacks from the lamp-post outside my house. Photos will be in the Sydney Morning Herald ( <a href="http://www.smh.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au</a> ). The text will probably say something like "Drunken soccer supporter dies climbing lamp pole".
 
back to the topic:

a little too premature even by my standard.

in 2000/2001 season we lost twice against poo and 1 more against arsenal. We beat the arse 6-1 at home and went on to be champions.

So it's totally OK to lose 3 out of the 4 crucial games and still win the title!
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>back to the topic:

a little too premature even by my standard.

in 2000/2001 season we lost twice against poo and 1 more against arsenal. We beat the arse 6-1 at home and went on to be champions.

So it's totally OK to lose 3 out of the 4 crucial games and still win the title!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I make you right there . Personally I think you can lose 6/7 games and STILL grab the title .

Football these days is very different the whole globe re football is on a much more goalscoring, winning , positive mode now which makes the 'draw ' almost as bad as a loss .

You can lose a good few providing you don't draw too many on the way .

Be an interesting stat to see if there are really far fewer draws now than ever before in ALL kinds standards of football.
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Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
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Be an interesting stat to see if there are really far fewer draws now than ever before in ALL kinds standards of football.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i won't go digging stats, but i agree that the system nowadays make teams push harder for the last minute wins. The 2-1-0 point system just didn't give enough to winners IMO.
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It would be too drastic to admit defeat

But we would REALLY complicate our lives
 
The answer to the question posed is almost certainly "yes", at least as far as we are concerned, but then again given what's happened recently there's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't beat them.
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
<strong>The answer to the question posed is almost certainly "yes", at least as far as we are concerned, but then again given what's happened recently there's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't beat them.</strong><hr></blockquote>

why would the title race be over if we lost to them Julian? you of all the people would have said otherwise.. i demand an explanation! ;)
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Originally posted by RUnited:
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why would the title race be over if we lost to them Julian? you of all the people would have said otherwise.. i demand an explanation! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

because you Raladyboy
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Originally posted by Beckham007:
<strong>This is the most open premiership in years.
IMO any of 5 teams can still win it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I really can't see anyone except United, Arse, or the dippers winning the league in the foreseeable future. The gap between them and the other clubs is just too big for any other club to have a big enough squad to maintain consistent form over a full season and deal with injuries and suspensions which is what is need to win the league
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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because you Raladyboy</strong><hr></blockquote>

what's that supposed to mean? did you not get an education as a child? To answer a question with such low-witted remark is a crime towards humanity. Man from centuries ago worked so hard to realize the full potential of the human brain yet you seem ignorant in finding ways to even use it properly.

go on then, enlighten us with your wisdom Rudolf. Don't just rack up your post rating with abusive remarks.
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Originally posted by RUnited:
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what's that supposed to mean? did you not get an education as a child? To answer a question with such low-witted remark is a crime towards humanity. Man from centuries ago worked so hard to realize the full potential of the human brain yet you seem ignorant in finding ways to even use it properly.

go on then, enlighten us with your wisdom Rudolf. Don't just rack up your post rating with abusive remarks.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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its a simple question

Rualadyboy
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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its a simple question

Rualadyboy</strong><hr></blockquote>

i still don't hear your wits, Rudolf.
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i was suddenly overcome by a bloody good feeling whilst zoning out in politics class this morning...we're gonna do the Gunners 2-0!!!

just call me Mystic Tam! <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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why would the title race be over if we lost to them Julian? you of all the people would have said otherwise.. i demand an explanation! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

It would give them a 9 point lead over us or looked at another way we would need 10 points to get back on top. Very difficult if not impossible given the psychological boost they would get from re-asserting their authority over us. The self satisfied Wenger would be smugness personified. However, as I said I think we can win or at the very least stop them from winning. To say it's a vital game is maybe an understatement.
GO FOR IT UNITED !
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Don't understand any of this! Arse have just lost 6 of their last 9 matches - 4(?) in the prem. I know that they are pretending this didn't happen but I'm surprised some on here are. There's no pont talking about 'great' players or their 'depth of squad' when they've just lost 6 matches with these same 'great' players from their 'deep' squad.

Given the recent record, who are the favourites? Nor Arse, thats for sure!
 
Originally posted by fjred:
<strong>Don't understand any of this! Arse have just lost 6 of their last 9 matches - 4(?) in the prem. I know that they are pretending this didn't happen but I'm surprised some on here are. There's no pont talking about 'great' players or their 'depth of squad' when they've just lost 6 matches with these same 'great' players from their 'deep' squad.

Given the recent record, who are the favourites? Nor Arse, thats for sure!</strong><hr></blockquote>

The question is "Is the title race over (for us ?) if we lose against Arsenal ?" and the answer is almost certainly yes as the points differential will be extremely difficult if not impossible to make up, given that they are a pretty good outfit and not the Newcastle of a few seasons ago ! The fact that they have lost some games recently is seen by most commentators as their blip which it is assumed has now passed. Let's hope it hasn't.
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A nine point gap will be very hard to peg back. However, we caught Newcastle from further behind in 96. In 98 Arsenal did the same to us. Remember the bookie paying out before the end of the season? Last season we nearly won from a similar position. No, it wont be over but it will be difficult.

On the other hand, a win.....
 
Of course it ain't over until its mathematically possible.
The result on Saturday will have a massive pyscological effect on both teams what ever the result.
If we win, the Arsenal players will know they will have to work a lot harder for the title this season.
If they win ..... feck it ain't gonna happen
 
What abt a draw? We know that losing and winning MAY have unpredictable outcomes (winning MAY dull the edge or sharpen it, the same as losing can do).

If we draw, will the fact that we have neglected to take points FROM Arsenal be as damaging as e.g. losing on home-turf?
 
Originally posted by Private PeeWee:
<strong>What abt a draw? We know that losing and winning MAY have unpredictable outcomes (winning MAY dull the edge or sharpen it, the same as losing can do).

If we draw, will the fact that we have neglected to take points FROM Arsenal be as damaging as e.g. losing on home-turf?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think a draw the most likely result as it means that both teams will be satisfied.For you Mancs,there will still be a 6 pt gap...but after winning against the Barcodes and the Scousers, a draw against us will be seen pretty positively.We will be happy with a point away against you lot at OT,knowing we can probably settle matters at Highbury later in the season. :)
Should be a cracker....hope all you Mancs haven't disappeared sunday when I get back from " t' grim north "..... ;)
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