MyOnlySolskjaer
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Sterling or Martial?
Sterling, more versatile and has more intensity in his game. Of course I love Martial though.
Sterling or Martial?
I didn't revive the the thread but as a City poster I will gravitate to City related threads, won't I?Have a word yourself, this thread lies dormant for a month then suddenly Sterling scores a few goals and out you come like flies around ....
I shudder to think how many goals Kane would score if he had the same team around him as does Sterling. Like I said, others will come and go but Kane is always there.
He was 21-22 years old when Pep arrived, you're being a little harsh.Perfect example of a system making a player look better than they are. Never did anything of note pre Guardiola, or on the continental or international stage.
It wasn't too long ago people were calling Pedro world class after he thrived under Pep's system too.
We can agree on that.I remember Sterling bagged a lot of important goals early-mid season, though. You’d say he was one of the most important if not best in any case.
He is clearly above everyone else at the moment.
I know he's a prick, but he should be given the credit when it's due.
The best English player at the moment.
Perfect example of a system making a player look better than they are. Never did anything of note pre Guardiola, or on the continental or international stage.
It wasn't too long ago people were calling Pedro world class after he thrived under Pep's system too.
Transfer valuations don't work like that. We have a lot of season's to judge Sterling's quality on; he's a known quantity. It's different for kids like Sancho (or Mbappe from a couple of years ago), where they come flying out of the blocks at a young age and their ceiling is basically viewed as limitless. Plus players like Sancho (and Mbappe at Monaco) are the key players in their teams, the talismen. It's different with Sterling, who's in a team where he's a valuable player, but not necessarily an essential one, or one that would be particularly missed or difficult to replace should they sell him.Whats Sterling worth at this current time, considering he is at least statistically the best English player and maybe the best player in the league?
We have talk of someone who has done very little in comparison being worth £100 million, so what would the very best English player and best player in the league be worth?
Surely at least 3 times as much as someone who hasnt even played 50 matches yet? So probably a world record fee then?
You think he isn't?Is he a prick?
You think he isn't?
Yeah i chose to not gobble up the gutter presses utter shite about him.
Kane is a striker and should normally score more than a wide attacker. Also Spurs would allow Kane make countless shots at opposition goal, something that Sterling doesn't have the luxury to do because Pep team emphasize passing till a clear opportunity to score is found. I don't think Sterling's numbers are inflated. Even Aguero doesn't score far too many goals. City are quite profligate in general. They miss loads of chances. See even Sane's numbers aren't all that. Sterling normally should fizzle out from competition from elite talent like Bernado, Mahrez and Sane but he is one of their first names in matchday squads.Apart from Kane, who is the last English player to have at least two 20+ seasons in a row?
IIRC, even Rooney didn't have 2 such seasons in a row. He would probably have had at this City side though, they are arguably the most creative team in PL history. Which might inflate Sterling's stats to an extent.
He is clearly above everyone else at the moment.
I know he's a prick, but he should be given the credit when it's due.
The best English player at the moment.
Kane is a striker and should normally score more than a wide attacker. Also Spurs would allow Kane make countless shots at opposition goal, something that Sterling doesn't have the luxury to do because Pep team emphasize passing till a clear opportunity to score is found. I don't think Sterling's numbers are inflated. Even Aguero doesn't score far too many goals. City are quite profligate in general. They miss loads of chances. See even Sane's numbers aren't all that. Sterling normally should fizzle out from competition from elite talent like Bernado, Mahrez and Sane but he is one of their first names in matchday squads.
Woow, you're just too serious!It's weird how much you like him though. And I don't mean that as a dig, as much as my personal opinion is that Kane is better, I really don't mind if other people think otherwise and can understand why.
But it's just bizarre to me how much you're bigging up a player who plays for a rival team. Like you've spent so much time fighting the corner of this bloke who is banging in the goals for your across city rival, doesn't that somewhat clash with the fact that you're meant to not really like City? Do you celebrate when Sterling scores? Like I'm imagining you seeing that he got a hattrick for them today and you getting all excited because you could bump the thread.
Like I said before, I can't imagine ever liking a rival player to that extent, I can admit Chelsea or Arsenal players are good but I'm certainly not going to race to defend their honour or big them up at any opportunity. I think I'd throw up if I saw an Arsenal fan doing for Kane what you're doing for Sterling. You're already having to support City in the title race, isn't that enough without jacking yourself silly over their players?
Transfer valuations don't work like that. We have a lot of season's to judge Sterling's quality on; he's a known quantity. It's different for kids like Sancho (or Mbappe from a couple of years ago), where they come flying out of the blocks at a young age and their ceiling is basically viewed as limitless. Plus players like Sancho (and Mbappe at Monaco) are the key players in their teams, the talismen. It's different with Sterling, who's in a team where he's a valuable player, but not necessarily an essential one, or one that would be particularly missed or difficult to replace should they sell him.
I'm not saying that young players have limitless potentially, I'm saying that some young players (eg Sancho and Mbappe) are seen that way, and this often means their transfer value gets blown way out of proportion. Hence why for example Sancho would probably be valued higher than Sterling in the current market. Not saying it's right, just saying that sometimes transfer value has little to do with players actual value.So a one season wonder is a limitless player.
I guess you havent been watching football long, else you'd have seen lots of young players crash and burn. More do that than succeed. Thats why a known quantity is much better.
Sterling would be difficult to replace
I'm not saying that young players have limitless potentially, I'm saying that some young players (eg Sancho and Mbappe) are seen that way, and this often means their transfer value gets blown way out of proportion. Hence why for example Sancho would probably be valued higher than Sterling in the current market. Not saying it's right, just saying that sometimes transfer value has little to do with players actual value.
Woow, you're just too serious!![]()
No.Seems like a decent guy.Is he a prick?
I think it's perfectly possible that a player like Sterling could go for 70-80 mil and Sancho for 100 plus in the current market. To be fair though, dependent on the buyer of each of course; a PL buyer can pay much more than a buyer from Italy or Germany.You honestly think Sancho would be bought for more than Sterling?
I think thats crazy talk
I think it's perfectly possible that a player like Sterling could go for 70-80 mil and Sancho for 100 plus in the current market. To be fair though, dependent on the buyer of each of course; a PL buyer can pay much more than a buyer from Italy or Germany.
For instance if us/City were going for Sancho, Dortmund would hike the fee to an outrageous level, because they know we can pay it. Meanwhile, if Sterling was going to Juventus or Bayern ore even Real, they probably wouldn't be prepared to pay in excess of 90mil; the only circumstance in which they'd buy is if they could get him for a cut price (on the last year of his contract perhaps). And if City were looking to offload him, they would have to lower their price, because they would know the likes of Juventus or Bayern (maybe less so with Real, not sure what their financial situation is but they haven't been too active in the market lately), simply can't pay the astronomical fees PL clubs can.
All these are ifs, buts and maybes of course. And I certainly don't think Sancho should cost more than Sterling. But could it happen, with the PL currently skewing the market to the extent it does? I think definitely.
I'm not saying that young players have limitless potentially, I'm saying that some young players (eg Sancho and Mbappe) are seen that way, and this often means their transfer value gets blown way out of proportion. Hence why for example Sancho would probably be valued higher than Sterling in the current market. Not saying it's right, just saying that sometimes transfer value has little to do with players actual value.
No.Seems like a decent guy.
I was just outlining specific circumstances in which I think Sancho could go for more than Sterling. Plenty of circumstances in which it could go the other way, including the one you outlined. The broader point I was making (perhaps not very clearly) is that the money in the PL, overhyping young talent, and a range of other factors often results in young players like Sancho being vastly overpriced (which isn't to say they're not worth pursuing either).So why in this hypothetical are City trying to offload Sterling, but Sancho is a bidding war?
Think about if they were in the same circumstances. PSG or Madrid want to sign Sterling from Man City, who obviously want to keep him because he's been their best player this season.
Compare that to a club wanting to sign Sancho
And if you tell me that Sancho goes for more money, once again I say crazy.
I was just outlining specific circumstances in which I think Sancho could go for more than Sterling. Plenty of circumstances in which it could go the other way, including the one you outlined. The broader point I was making (perhaps not very clearly) is that the money in the PL, overhyping young talent, and a range of other factors often results in young players like Sancho being vastly overpriced (which isn't to say they're not worth pursuing either).
To be honest I like the majority of the English players coming through at the moment.All seem like levelled headed individuals.Makes a change.Definitely. Despite the media's smear campaign.
Absolutely no. He is a coniving cheat who has a good team around him.
He is and was pathetic in all his England games and England could have progressed further if him and ally were not in the team.
Wouldnt want him at manchester united or and premadonnas of his ilk.
I blame Southgate for that, not Sterling. It's too bad it took him until after the World Cup was over to figure out that a 3-5-2 is not England's best formation and to stop playing Sterling out of position. Had England played a 4-3-3 with Sterling in his correct position (like he was in the Nations League) then I think England would have beat Croatia in the semi-finals and had a good chance vs France...