Is Roy Carroll Good Enough?
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it'll be interesting to see who plays tonight anyway..
who was the sub gk against Portsmouth?
who was the sub gk against Portsmouth?
I had watched Carroll enough (since his Wigan’s times) to be 100% certain that he does not deserve to be considered as Manutd 3rd keeper
You have given me some worthy Information about Ricardo and I will give you some good information about Roy Carroll
Roy Carroll is young but had already proved his worth with Northern Ireland. He caught the eye of several scouts with his wonderful talent of being a great shot stopper, in fact before coming at OT he was really contested by (then) Premiership clubs Leicester and West Ham. Very vocal, dominating in the small box and a great shot stopper SAF was certain that once groomed the Irish Northern Int would be classy.
During his maiden season Carroll completely blotted out experienced Rai Van Del Gouw, a great task when you consider that both Bosnich and Taibi had failed in doing so. Carroll replaced an injured Barthez during the start of this campaign and did well. Quite great for an unknown isn’t it
Let us not do the same mistakes that great teams often do and rely on the reputation rather than the talent. For example AC Milan had sold both Toldo and Cudicini for peanuts for Lehmann’s and Antonioli’s sake and now they are kicking themselves.
Ricardo is not a bad keeper but a bit overrated (comeon he was Molina’s reserve). It’s a fact.Spanish Internationals often die out ones coming out of their Liga, just ask Ferrer, Del La Pena, Farinos, Javi Moreno, Nayim, Jose Mari and EX Lazio multi million flop Mendieta
You have given me some worthy Information about Ricardo and I will give you some good information about Roy Carroll
Roy Carroll is young but had already proved his worth with Northern Ireland. He caught the eye of several scouts with his wonderful talent of being a great shot stopper, in fact before coming at OT he was really contested by (then) Premiership clubs Leicester and West Ham. Very vocal, dominating in the small box and a great shot stopper SAF was certain that once groomed the Irish Northern Int would be classy.
During his maiden season Carroll completely blotted out experienced Rai Van Del Gouw, a great task when you consider that both Bosnich and Taibi had failed in doing so. Carroll replaced an injured Barthez during the start of this campaign and did well. Quite great for an unknown isn’t it
Let us not do the same mistakes that great teams often do and rely on the reputation rather than the talent. For example AC Milan had sold both Toldo and Cudicini for peanuts for Lehmann’s and Antonioli’s sake and now they are kicking themselves.
Ricardo is not a bad keeper but a bit overrated (comeon he was Molina’s reserve). It’s a fact.Spanish Internationals often die out ones coming out of their Liga, just ask Ferrer, Del La Pena, Farinos, Javi Moreno, Nayim, Jose Mari and EX Lazio multi million flop Mendieta
caroll is a decent keeper, good shot stopper, claims crosses well, he just lacks that decisiveness all great keepers have, like schmeical. For the goal against portsmouth he seemed a bit nervy, he also seems a bit static at times, I dont know if he'l ever make No.1 but he is a useful enough backup to have for now.
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NO no no !
Those so-called quotes come from the reliable Daily Star, I have already explained here all the quotes had been outrageously distorted, I had read the original interview given by Fab in L'Equipe, he would NEVER talk like that about a teammate. I can't believe you believe this shit and it makes me angry to see how stupid and dishonest are the English media. Don't even cite them !
i agree that barthez has shown his best form for us since last injury, world class. i hope now he is settled.
as for carroll - reminds me of jim leighton, for better or for worse <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" />
the switching of the back 4 doesnt help a goalkeeper, and roy is still young. i dont know what the solution is, but i am afraid he will go too.
as for carroll - reminds me of jim leighton, for better or for worse <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" />
the switching of the back 4 doesnt help a goalkeeper, and roy is still young. i dont know what the solution is, but i am afraid he will go too.
Originally posted by Elfie:
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NO no no !
Those so-called quotes come from the reliable Daily Star
Look, the guy didn't know that they existed, so I just brought him up to date. Nobody believes them, but that is no reason to sweep them under the rug and pretend they do not exist.
God, you French are so bloody sensitive.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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God, you French are so bloody sensitive.
Ain't that the truth.
And L'Equipe are cnuts anyway for letting that goofy git Ronaldo win the Balon D'Or this year. Never deserved it!
he is still young.
he needs more time to becomes fab's class!
give him some times.
he needs more time to becomes fab's class!
give him some times.
According to the OFFICIAL Manutd Mag, Ricardo had been second fiddle both with Athletico and Valladiod.
He did the great breakthrough on March 01 and played as first teamer during that 2001-2002 season. Quite not a great thing from a 31+ year keeper
He did the great breakthrough on March 01 and played as first teamer during that 2001-2002 season. Quite not a great thing from a 31+ year keeper
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>And L'Equipe are cnuts anyway for letting that goofy git Ronaldo win the Balon D'Or this year. Never deserved it!
L'Equipe has nothing to do with that. The Ballon d'Or is from another paper, France Football. And even France Football is not responsible for the election of Ronaldo, the vote comes from 50 european journalists, only one being French (and the French one had voted Roberto Carlos). BTW, the English, Spanish, French, German and Italian journalists hadn't voted Ronaldo too, Ronaldo has been elected thanks to the votes of small countries.
Anyway L'Equipe is an excellent paper and I read it every day.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>What amuses me is people that rate Carroll more highly than Ricardo, when the vast majority have seen very little of Carroll, and even less, if not anything, of Ricardo.
How does that figure?
Totally agreed. I have so little evidence that I couldn't even begin to make a choice. Of the very very little I have seen of either of them neither strike me as the next Great Dane (but who would?) but both of them look to be decent solid keepers - at least as good as you can expect from players who will warm the bench most of the time.
The Great Dane and Stam are two players who had ordinary starts to their United careers but went on to become world class United legends, so perhaps it is too early to judge the two keepers in question. Who knows what either are capable of given a run?
Carroll's the most famous sportsman who was born within 10 miles of me, so I'll stick up for him.
Seriously, though, I think he's done alright. He was always meant to be no. 3 and he deputised adequately for Barthez last season when he was having his wobble. Give the guy a break, he hasn't done a lot wrong.
Seriously, though, I think he's done alright. He was always meant to be no. 3 and he deputised adequately for Barthez last season when he was having his wobble. Give the guy a break, he hasn't done a lot wrong.