I dont think the Northern Ireland international has what it takes! I thought he should have held the ball under Todorov's challenge on Saturday, and in the Sunderland game earlier in the season, a similar situation saw United give up a goal to Flo! I think for a 'keeper of his phyiscal stature he should be both stronger and braver! Add to this his Kicking isn't very good! I think I'm beginning to see why SAF bought Ricardo.
Is Roy Carroll Good Enough?
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Carroll is a decent keeper, but he's not as good as Lopez IMO.
Carroll seems to have some good spells; I'm thinking back to the beginning of the season when Fab was injured (excluding the Chelsea game). Back then I recall saying Carroll could be challenging Fab for his place, admittedly, since he came back, Fab has been great for us, probably the best form he's had since arriving.
Carroll doesn't seem to have reacted well to becoming 3rd choice keeper IMO.
Carroll doesn't seem to have reacted well to becoming 3rd choice keeper IMO.
Carroll is a bloody good keeper. He's been unlucky that since Fab has come back from injury he's been worldclass.
As for the goal he conceded, it was a slight mistake and infact i think he can be unlucky not to get a free kick. However i dont think we should ever question a keepers bravery. they dive in where the boots are flying.
He made some very good saves, and played very steadily at the start of the season. In fact a lot on here questioned whether Barthez should get back in..
as a 2nd keeper for us at the moment he's ideal.
Lopez im not sure about yet, good on the ball but has given away 2 easy penalties so far.
As for the goal he conceded, it was a slight mistake and infact i think he can be unlucky not to get a free kick. However i dont think we should ever question a keepers bravery. they dive in where the boots are flying.
He made some very good saves, and played very steadily at the start of the season. In fact a lot on here questioned whether Barthez should get back in..
as a 2nd keeper for us at the moment he's ideal.
Lopez im not sure about yet, good on the ball but has given away 2 easy penalties so far.
Roy is a geniune talent, a great shot stopper that can dominate well the small box.
Of coarse everyone can do a mistake ( Just ask Duedek, Seaman and Barthez) expecially a young unexperienced keeper who is rarely utilised
He needs more experience but personally I C him better than Ricardo
Of coarse everyone can do a mistake ( Just ask Duedek, Seaman and Barthez) expecially a young unexperienced keeper who is rarely utilised
He needs more experience but personally I C him better than Ricardo
what is the world coming too, im agreeing with devilish for once! 
The last time fergie complimented him he said, "i thought our reserve goalkeeper Gary played well".
Was he saying "Cary" as a nickname for him or is old age getting the better of him that he thought it was Gary Walsh?
Was he saying "Cary" as a nickname for him or is old age getting the better of him that he thought it was Gary Walsh?
He's a solid reliable keeper. I have no worries when he has to come in to replace Fabien.
My only problem with him is that he doesn't seem to have that something special. That little bit extra that sets United players apart from any other player. Barthez has it, Peter had it and so did Gary Bailey.
Just out of interest I saw that Ben Williams went on loan but can't remember where. Can anyone tell me.
My only problem with him is that he doesn't seem to have that something special. That little bit extra that sets United players apart from any other player. Barthez has it, Peter had it and so did Gary Bailey.
Just out of interest I saw that Ben Williams went on loan but can't remember where. Can anyone tell me.
I saw the match against Portsmouth, and the one thing I did not like about Carroll was the way he came so far out from the goal to challenge. Some of the challenges were good, but that also opens him up for a potential disaster, getting trapped and then other players have to cover for him. The OG that Veron was credited with against Sunderland is an example, except it was Barthez who was the keeper. But watching Carroll play against Portsmouth I just had visions of this happening again and it was not pleasant. <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
Am I the only person who has seen Ricardo play more than I have seen Carroll play?
Ricardo is without doubt the better keeper. Two penalty give aways seem to form many a person's opinion, and how many times have people seen him play?
Ricardo is far more composed than Carroll, a far better catcher of the ball, and a better shot stopper. His only problem is his ditribution, and Carroll is not too good at that.
Ricardo is without doubt the better keeper. Two penalty give aways seem to form many a person's opinion, and how many times have people seen him play?
Ricardo is far more composed than Carroll, a far better catcher of the ball, and a better shot stopper. His only problem is his ditribution, and Carroll is not too good at that.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Am I the only person who has seen Ricardo play more than I have seen Carroll play?
Ricardo is without doubt the better keeper. Two penalty give aways seem to form many a person's opinion, and how many times have people seen him play?
Ricardo is far more composed than Carroll, a far better catcher of the ball, and a better shot stopper. His only problem is his ditribution, and Carroll is not too good at that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Perharps, but Carroll is younger, and he can progress...
Ricardo IS a better keeper.
Carrol is at best, average.
Carrol is at best, average.
So why Ferguson has prefered Carroll the last two games ?
who knows, maybe ricardo's injured?
we'll see over the course of the season, just exactly who SAF prefer's..and who's the better keeper.
we'll see over the course of the season, just exactly who SAF prefer's..and who's the better keeper.
The little I have seen him play, I actually liked him. He has a cool head on his shoulders. I have been missing a few games this season and I need to see him more to comment better, though. The last time I saw him play, though, I really liked him. I think that was against Sunderland.
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He's a solid reliable keeper. I have no worries when he has to come in to replace Fabien.
My only problem with him is that he doesn't seem to have that something special. That little bit extra that sets United players apart from any other player. Barthez has it, Peter had it and so did Gary Bailey.
Just out of interest I saw that Ben Williams went on loan but can't remember where. Can anyone tell me.
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Ben williams went out to chesterfield but he is apparently being taken back shortly
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He's a solid reliable keeper. I have no worries when he has to come in to replace Fabien.
My only problem with him is that he doesn't seem to have that something special. That little bit extra that sets United players apart from any other player. Barthez has it, Peter had it and so did Gary Bailey.
Just out of interest I saw that Ben Williams went on loan but can't remember where. Can anyone tell me.
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Ben williams went out to chesterfield but he is apparently being taken back shortly
Goalkeepers peak at about 30 or so. Carroll deserves the same faith some of us showed Forlan. Give him time.
To say Caroll is better than Lopez is Ludicrous imo. Lopez has more expereince. Eevn though he is yet to get a real chance from Fergie. But Caroll will get better. Thats mandatory.
More Experience doesnt always mean better ( EX Nevilles--OSHEA)
We know Caroll strengths and weaknesses well but we havent studied Ricardo well
Personally I saw Ricardo as very slow in his actions and tend to punch the ball more rather than catching it
Ok he is a Spanish int ( 1 cap) and is more experienced, but with half of his football carrier warming the bench I really doubt whether Ricardo is better than Carroll
It would be a MISTAKE to sell Carroll, he is very talented and reminds me a lot of Cudicini
We know Caroll strengths and weaknesses well but we havent studied Ricardo well
Personally I saw Ricardo as very slow in his actions and tend to punch the ball more rather than catching it
Ok he is a Spanish int ( 1 cap) and is more experienced, but with half of his football carrier warming the bench I really doubt whether Ricardo is better than Carroll
It would be a MISTAKE to sell Carroll, he is very talented and reminds me a lot of Cudicini
I think Carroll is a great young keeper, i wanted him to replace Fab last season, i agree he has been awesome this year but i rate Carroll higher than Ricardo, and as for the goal, well he was pretty unlucky me thinks.
What amuses me is people that rate Carroll more highly than Ricardo, when the vast majority have seen very little of Carroll, and even less, if not anything, of Ricardo.
How does that figure?
I must admit that I have seen Ricardo play more than I have seen Carroll.
How does that figure?
I must admit that I have seen Ricardo play more than I have seen Carroll.
I dont rate Carroll as slow and being British type of keeper he tend to catch the ball more rather than punching it ( typical in continental keeper)
Ricardo's football carrier had half of it spent on the bench. I repsect him a lot (being a Manutd keeper) but he is not a so called high profile keeper
And tell me have you ever seen a Spanish leaving La Liga and did a hit?
EX of the so called Spanish stars who turned into flops
Del La Pena
Farinos
Moreno
Mari
and loads more
Ricardo's football carrier had half of it spent on the bench. I repsect him a lot (being a Manutd keeper) but he is not a so called high profile keeper
And tell me have you ever seen a Spanish leaving La Liga and did a hit?
EX of the so called Spanish stars who turned into flops
Del La Pena
Farinos
Moreno
Mari
and loads more
I saw a lot of Carrol when he was at Wigan, saw him train as well on more than a couple of occasions.
In my opinion, he is a very very capable keeper. Im in little doubt he could handle being first choice, if needed.
Ive not seen anywhere near as much of Ricardo as I have of Carrol, so dont feel justified to comment.
It does seem that Carrol could be on his way out, and I for one would be very sad to see him go. He is far better than third choice IMO. He is a genuine talent.
In my opinion, he is a very very capable keeper. Im in little doubt he could handle being first choice, if needed.
Ive not seen anywhere near as much of Ricardo as I have of Carrol, so dont feel justified to comment.
It does seem that Carrol could be on his way out, and I for one would be very sad to see him go. He is far better than third choice IMO. He is a genuine talent.
What do people know of Ricardo? He's Spains 2nd/3rd choice and Ive seen his appearences so far for us...but truth be told thats all I know.
This is from the end of a piece I did on Carrol for <a href="http://rednews.co.uk" target="_blank">RedNews</a> when he first signed for us. I just read it again, and I havent changed my mind.
Carroll is a fiery keeper. Extremely vocal and commands not just his eighteen-yard box but also the entire defensive third. According to a mate who has trained with him, he is equally vocal on the training ground and is hungry for success. His reactions and shot stopping outstripped anything that was thrown at him in Division Two; occasionally suspect on crosses, he has the ability to be the complete keeper. Oh, and he's got huge hands…£2.5 million?…bargain.
RedNews, July 2001
This is from the end of a piece I did on Carrol for <a href="http://rednews.co.uk" target="_blank">RedNews</a> when he first signed for us. I just read it again, and I havent changed my mind.
Carroll is a fiery keeper. Extremely vocal and commands not just his eighteen-yard box but also the entire defensive third. According to a mate who has trained with him, he is equally vocal on the training ground and is hungry for success. His reactions and shot stopping outstripped anything that was thrown at him in Division Two; occasionally suspect on crosses, he has the ability to be the complete keeper. Oh, and he's got huge hands…£2.5 million?…bargain.
RedNews, July 2001
or maybe theres more to this Ricardo-Barthez spat than we think.