I don't believe him one bit.
Is Jim Ratcliffe still interested in buying Manchester United? Yes
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I thought about the yacht, that why I said almost.
Anyway it won’t change anything to my life as I don’t need these kind of bullsh*t to be happy ! As a middle class european citizen, I am more privileged then most people on this planet ! But I am digressing, that’s another conversation…
Believe who? About what?
Sir Jim about really wanting to purchase Manchester United.
Ratcliffe
Believe him about what?
Everything we do under the glazers is cursed. When they finally spend money other equally pressing needs have popped up in the meantime that they are far too slow to address. It’s always too little too late, no matter how much they put in we are always playing catch up and making baffling decisions and falling behind trying to cheap out in the meantime Hanging onto shite and letting the infrastructure and relationship with the fans deteriorate to the point of no return is symbolic of this, all this really bad negative stuff has to happen before they do anything instead of taking the hit and facing standard football club problems head on. They are just pure poison. On that basis alone any random billionaire leech who has a bit of pride and knew a tiny bit about the game would do a much better job.
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Wanting to buy Manchester United
Has he said he wants to?
He was keen on buying Chelsea, who tbh were sold for not too far off our valuation.
If the Glazers were willing to feck off back to Tampa for good, I think he'd certainly consider it.
Didn't Ratcliffe recently say he wouldn't consider buying United on his own? Can't locate the interview/quote.
This day will arrive. It might be a while off but I could see how buying the club could be very attractive. Especially if you would be lauded as a hero for doing so. Now to play the waiting game
If this season goes the way it looks like it’s going to go then the fans are going to combust. Something will have to give eventually.
Already turned on Murtough and Arnold who are present at every/most game
Already turned on Murtough and Arnold who are present at every/most game
Glazers don't want to sell, people. If they wanted to, we'd already have been sold. There are plenty of buyers, but the only way to take the club out from them would be through forcing them to sell.
The only way I see it happening is if the value of the club tanks after being out of CL for so long that we become Arsenal. Or we ramp up the pressure through protests and make them uncomfortable enough to feck off.
1. Glazers not selling. Why would they? MU was very safe and profitable investment for them.
2. Arnold and Murtough need to be given couple of years. It's too early now to blame them. **And yes, FDJ is really complex deal.
3. Many fans here remind me of neurotic/hysterical teenage girl (not to sound sexist, sorry).
2. Arnold and Murtough need to be given couple of years. It's too early now to blame them. **And yes, FDJ is really complex deal.
3. Many fans here remind me of neurotic/hysterical teenage girl (not to sound sexist, sorry).
Only when they sell. The dividends hardly make it a great investment
I’m not sure what motivation Glazers would have to sell. They are making money every single year from the club.
Fans kicking off isn’t going to affect them sat in the US.
Fans kicking off isn’t going to affect them sat in the US.
The Glazers, from their point of view, do need to be careful and I think are coming to a fork in the road of their tenure. There may come a point where they do want to sell, rather than take projected dividend payments, but they’re in danger of diluting their asset so much that any prospective buyer, like Ratcliffe, will be put off whilst carrying out due diligence on just how much additional money needs to be spent on things like Old Trafford, the training ground (so United’s fixed assets), the playing staff and changes to the senior management team, in addition to funds required to buy the club and it’s debt. That’s why, from all of this perspective, Chelsea was a more attractive proposition right now . However of course, the global appeal at United is far greater and therefore longer term potential for returns is far greater.
I would be genuinely surprised if the Glazers weren’t at least thinking about cashing in now, but a clean purchase is not as cut and dried as it seems. And, of course, our sociopathic narcissistic owners won’t want to accept a ‘reasonable price’, they’ll want silly money. They don’t think rationally and almost need to be forced out or their ownership becomes untenable, but short of kidnapping Joel Glazer and brokering a swap deal, I’m not sure how you can proactively move these parasites.
I would be genuinely surprised if the Glazers weren’t at least thinking about cashing in now, but a clean purchase is not as cut and dried as it seems. And, of course, our sociopathic narcissistic owners won’t want to accept a ‘reasonable price’, they’ll want silly money. They don’t think rationally and almost need to be forced out or their ownership becomes untenable, but short of kidnapping Joel Glazer and brokering a swap deal, I’m not sure how you can proactively move these parasites.
Which they won’t do until they feel the value of the asset has peaked or they get an offer way over value.
Yeah this would make sense, but hasn't our valuation hit a bit of a plateau recently?
It could be close to peaking now. Our future prospects look pretty bleak as things stand and our infrastructure is showing its age more and more by the day. There comes a tipping point where lack of success will start to affect the number of kids becoming fans and we're probably already past that. Maybe it's just blind hope on my part but I'd love to believe they might sell soon.
Although they don't deserve a single penny of the profit they will make. Scumbags.
What would the Glazers even consider? 6 bil?
That’s the share price value. What the Chelsea buyers were willing to pay shows where investors think PL club values are going - Boehly even spoke of how untapped the EPL media rights market is. It has huge room for growth and we are the biggest ticket in that market despite what people on here think. So the question is - what would make you give up billions of pounds? They can take dividends, the club pays off any debts and the asset continues to increase in value - why are they selling?
Or they leave it for the next generation of Glazers
I thought he had no interest in spending that amount of money on a club but if his reported bid for Chelsea is true then I guess that shows he might.
Like any investors they’ll want to sell. And when they do they’re making billions from their investment. It’s all about selling at peak value. Unless the EPL bubble is going to burst - that time isn’t now.Or they leave it for the next generation of Glazers
Chelsea were sold for £2.5bn plus £1.75bn which is being used for infrastructure and transfers over the next 10 years. So its not £4bn as a lot of people are saying.
Man Utd are being valued at £4bn just for the club. Unless the ESL or some other ‘closed competition’ league is being created the value wont be going up much over that £4bn unless theres a bidding war.
The Glazers have paid £0 for the club (from their own pockets) they have invested £0 in any form while they have squandered £1bn on loan payments, and a further £1bn in players. Not a penny out of their own pockets. Basically they sell and its all profit for these leeches.
Man Utd are being valued at £4bn just for the club. Unless the ESL or some other ‘closed competition’ league is being created the value wont be going up much over that £4bn unless theres a bidding war.
The Glazers have paid £0 for the club (from their own pockets) they have invested £0 in any form while they have squandered £1bn on loan payments, and a further £1bn in players. Not a penny out of their own pockets. Basically they sell and its all profit for these leeches.
What are they saying?
Suspect this as just being hyperbole from Mr Knighton, but credit to him for trying as he’d be the one brokering any possible deal between the club and Sir Jim were it ever to happen. It’s highly unlikely though as Ratcliffe is already preoccupied with Nice.
Considering they put in practically none of their actual money, it’s been a great investment for them.
If you value the club at £4b, £17m a year or whatever it was is hardly the most money you could make from the asset value. The arguments earlier about potential growth of the valuation are all true, though
Are you thinking of lodging an offer, duffer? Not sure how I'd feel about it...
This is from May this year
that look when he says Man Utd is not for sale suggests someone has tried and failed to buy.
Go on muppets. do your thing. He wants this.
You think there are loads of people who either have or can raise £4 Billion+ required to buy us?
Based on the number of multi-billionaires in the world, yes.
So, when the American Civil War begins, surely Florida will be perceived as one of the aggressors!?! The UK government would have no option but to take action and auction us off to the most favourable bidder.
Best things that could happen this year:
1: Glazers sell up to Sir Jim.
2: FDJ signs for us
3: We buy a DM, another CB (replacing Maguire) plus a CF
1: Glazers sell up to Sir Jim.
2: FDJ signs for us
3: We buy a DM, another CB (replacing Maguire) plus a CF
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