He easily is. It's obvious you don't like him and maybe why you think he wasn't the symbol of the team during its arguably best ever period (which is plain wrong anyway), but that doesn't mean he's not likable.
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Once again, when I think about that period I think about our defense not our attack and not Ronaldo. Even though he was great.
Another interesting twist on this topic would the status of Brazilian Ronaldo. No one can deny that he's overall a legend of football, but does he qualify as a legend at any particular club. His spells at Barca and Inter were too short (for the former,) and too injury-blighted (for the latter.) As for Real, although he scored a fair number of goals, it seemed like he was past his best by that point.
To be fair to him, neither would we have without our incredible defence.
I'm indifferent to him, I don't dislike him and think that he is a great player probably one of the best.
Hmm this is quite peculiar if you don't mind me saying. Here is a player who came agonizingly close to breaking Denis Law's 40+ year record for goals in a season, broke his record for most league goals in a season for United, rivaled George Best for the best season by a United player, won us the Champions League, helped us reach another final, won us three titles, became only the 4th United player to win the Ballon D'Or, finished second twice, won the World Player of the Year, was named United's player of the Year twice, European Golden Shoe, was the PFA Player of the Year twice, and he wasn't the symbol of our team ? Seems a bit disingenuous somehow.
That's fair, the quarter of Rio, Vidic, Patrice and Van der Sar were critical to our success, I won't argue that. But Ronaldo's influence was absolutely unparalleled. People usually associate United of that era with swashbuckling football, the Ronaldo-Rooney-Saha/ Tevez cohort, his header in Moscow, his free-kicks against Sporting and Portsmouth, that beautiful counter-attack against Arsenal with Ronaldo and Rooney and Park.
Sure, defense was a strength of the team, there are other iconic moments like Scholes' goal against Barcelona. But Ronaldo was this looming presence above it all, I understand perspective might differ, but seriously I just can't grasp how he's not supposed to be the symbol of the team.
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I'd say he is. He was undoubtedly a major reason for one of the most successful periods in our history. Plus he does have a decent story. We bought this talented but unrefined 18 year old and watched him blossom into one of the best players in the world with us. His time here was short, but so was George Best's and I don't think there's anyone who'd deny he is legend.
Having said all that, I don't and I don't think others should be placing him on the same level as a Charlton, Cantona, Scholes or Giggs. He did great things for us, but he's not a red. His tombstone will probably have a picture of himself and the Real Madrid crest.
Having said all that, I don't and I don't think others should be placing him on the same level as a Charlton, Cantona, Scholes or Giggs. He did great things for us, but he's not a red. His tombstone will probably have a picture of himself and the Real Madrid crest.
Oh I do think he was the iconic member of that team, no doubt. But I don't think he's a club legend either way.
Fair enough, a lot of these arguments often boil down to individual preference anyway. He's kind of a borderline legend for me, totally understand that he might not be so for others, his is a very unique case unlike more unanimous legends of the club where there inclusion is set in stone. But I did think the part of him being of lesser value than our defense was more universally - for lack of a better word incorrect, hence the previous couple of posts.
Because, like you said in your post "in a season", I don't think about that season I think about the period 2006-2011, and when I think about that period I think about our defense and Scholes.
I don't judge anyone who think that Ronaldo is a legend, I don't think that they are wrong, I just don't feel that way.
Not for me, no.
Not a legend.
fecking great winger for us though.
fecking great winger for us though.
Yes.
Type of player you only want to have the ball, the excitement of the player, the love from the fans and a name to put fear in opposition teams. Won everything with the club, I'm still sour over him leaving but I've excepted it.
Type of player you only want to have the ball, the excitement of the player, the love from the fans and a name to put fear in opposition teams. Won everything with the club, I'm still sour over him leaving but I've excepted it.
Obviously he is, how's this even up for debate?
Definitely one of the best players if not the best to ever play for the club but definitely not a legend in my book.
Not only did he go missing in finals; i also blame him for making us look like madrid's feeder club. Worse or the best thing is; thst if he had stayed at united both the club and the player would be better off in terms of trophies and stature.
Not only did he go missing in finals; i also blame him for making us look like madrid's feeder club. Worse or the best thing is; thst if he had stayed at united both the club and the player would be better off in terms of trophies and stature.
One of the best players we've ever had, would of been nice to have another year or 2, but still a legend.
The "symbol" of our team? Is this a sports phrase copied from another sport or another language? It's certainly not a common term in English football. In any case I tend to agree that the defence was the strongest part of our team by a considerable distance. Our success in 08/09 despite our disjointed attack and Ronaldo's drop in form made that clear IMO.
I think his legendary status will depend somewhat on the success of our team over the next couple of decades. If we fail to create a team which wins the CL and has prolonged success in the league, or put more simply of we fail to produce another great team, then Ronaldo will be remembered as the best player in our last great team for however many years. His status will grow the longer we fail to produce that great team. If we do produce a great team in the near future then I think it'll remain fairly evenly split throughout. He'll be acknowledged as a legend of football and our best player in our most successful team in history by all, but many people will compare him to Giggs and Scholes and say he doesn't quite make the cut for a United legend.
I think his legendary status will depend somewhat on the success of our team over the next couple of decades. If we fail to create a team which wins the CL and has prolonged success in the league, or put more simply of we fail to produce another great team, then Ronaldo will be remembered as the best player in our last great team for however many years. His status will grow the longer we fail to produce that great team. If we do produce a great team in the near future then I think it'll remain fairly evenly split throughout. He'll be acknowledged as a legend of football and our best player in our most successful team in history by all, but many people will compare him to Giggs and Scholes and say he doesn't quite make the cut for a United legend.
Exactly. There's absolutely no doubt about it, particularly for the younger generation of fans. He was our best player (and the best player in the league) by a country mile for several years, winning the Ballon d'or along the way. He brought us many trophies, including a Champions League title. Yes, he chose to leave the club, but since his departure he's never been anything but appreciative and respectful. The fans still sing his name. An absolute legend!
He plays on the left...
Is Alan Shearer a Blackburn legend?
If Jaap Stam is a Manchester United legend so is Cristiano Ronaldo.
Its a no for me. Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world, to be a legend for this club you dont leave this club and be at another club during your prime years as a footballer.
Great player though
Great player though
Sort of.
He's slightly overrated as a legend for United by certain people who forget that most of his best football has been played elsewhere, but his 2007/2008 season remains one of the best the club has seen, and will ever see, for an individual player. That was Ronaldo playing some of his very best football, and he was absolutely incredible.
Still, his superb spell was largely limited to a few years, compared to other legends who had a much more prolonged period at the club. He's one of United's greats, so probably qualifies as a legend too.
He's slightly overrated as a legend for United by certain people who forget that most of his best football has been played elsewhere, but his 2007/2008 season remains one of the best the club has seen, and will ever see, for an individual player. That was Ronaldo playing some of his very best football, and he was absolutely incredible.
Still, his superb spell was largely limited to a few years, compared to other legends who had a much more prolonged period at the club. He's one of United's greats, so probably qualifies as a legend too.
Without doubt, yes.
Cristiano Ronaldo was the star player in a Manchester United team who won the league and European Cup, in the 50th anniversary year of the Munich air disaster and 40 years since we first won old big ears. For that alone he should be regarded as a legend.
If Cristiano Ronaldo is not regarded as a club legend, few players that have worn the United shirt can be regarded as a club legend.
If Cristiano Ronaldo is not regarded as a club legend, few players that have worn the United shirt can be regarded as a club legend.
Absolute legend for what he achieved..
Absolutely no chance.
Legends include Ferguson, Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Schmichel etc.
He wouldn't even be in the top ten in the premier league era because of his lack of time here.
At another smaller club he might be a legend. Since a club can't have about 30+ players as legends though no he doesn't make it.
Legends include Ferguson, Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Schmichel etc.
He wouldn't even be in the top ten in the premier league era because of his lack of time here.
At another smaller club he might be a legend. Since a club can't have about 30+ players as legends though no he doesn't make it.
Great player, no legend. Loves fame and fortune not United.
Bigger legends include:
Giggs,
Rooney,
Neville,
Scholes,
Charlton,
Best,
Law,
Smikes,
Ferguson,
Keane,
Robson,
Irwin,
Busby,
Ferdinand
He's one of only 4 United players to win the Balon D'or in a United shirt of course he's a legend FFS.
I couldn't disagree any more strongly with this.
The same Rooney that repeatedly asked to leave? That criticised Sir Alex in his last months at the club.
Ronaldo left us, yes. And he may have even had a greater career elsewhere. But he left us after handing us the European Cup, and taking us to another European Cup Final after being crowned the World Best Player.
Cantona and Ronaldo are both legends who left us wanting more. Giggs and Scholes are legends who continued producing long after anyone else would have stopped.
Rooney? He got fat and he got slow, he never fulfilled his promise. Maybe he will go down as a Scholes or a Giggs, Maybe he should have left us long ago.
If Ronaldo isn't a United legend because he didn't spend enough time here then by that same logic neither is Cantona.
Yes, of course he fecking is.
This myth has sprung up that in order to be classed as a legend, you have to have shown utmost respect for the club at all times...
Eh.. Best anyone?
Eh.. Best anyone?
Schmeichel fecking joined City FFS but he's a bigger legend as per a few posts above.
That's a very good point, but Cantona is infinitely more iconic.
I consider Stam a United legend for having contributed to winning the treble and 3 titles in a row.
So considering Ronaldo achieved even more in his time at United of course he's a Legend how could he not be?
So considering Ronaldo achieved even more in his time at United of course he's a Legend how could he not be?
You speak as if Ronaldo won us the European Cup individually. You have also conveniently chosen to ignore Ronaldo's antics before leaving (slave..etc) . And you're right, Rooney did make a mistake. But he's still here since then and has helped us win titles. Also what Rooney supposed to have promised you btw?
Best loved the booze more than he loved Utd.
The whole notion of 'bigger' legend makes me laugh.
The problem for me is that, legends are rare and your criteria creates almost several dozens of legends.
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