i must be out of the loop, but what is this about bombing cultural sites?
Iran v US confrontation
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A Trump threat.
Trump has threatened to bomb sites important to “Iranian culture” if/when Iran retaliates. Nobody is sure what he meant by it.
Yep. Crazy innit?
YES, BUT WE WILL DO IT WITH BIGGER AND STRONGER MISSILES, ALL MADE IN USA! USA USA USA
OBAMA WAS WEAK FOR ALLOWING ISIS TO BOMB MORE CULTURAL SITES THAN US. WE HAVE THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY AND CAN BOMB MORE THAN THEM.
Shouldn't have found this funny... but I did.
Taking advice from Saudi's on how to manage historical religious/archaeological sites.
We didn’t even do that at the height of WWII when it was still in question (to my knowledge).
ROOSSVELT WAS WEAK AND DIDN'T HAVE MY UNPRECEDENTED AND UNMATCHED WISDOM TO TARGET CULTURAL SITES. HE WAS ALSO A CRIPPLE!
More rocket attacks at the Embassy right now. Should be a lively evening.
wow is this a real trump tweet? too good!
The hyenas all want a share of the pie. After big daddy has the biggest slice for himself, of course.
Tbh I'm kind of confused by reactions like that and the distaste for attacking a general directly. Its basically an act of war and i can certainly understand americans being disgusted at being dragged into yet another war but theres been an escalation of threats and attacks for months and the equivalent of an act of war was kind of inevitable.
Better one general, who's having daily meetings with groups actively attacking american bases, than carpet bombing civilians which seems to be the standard response. Not surprised generals in the pentagon weren't keen on it, they're used to peasants getting killed in their place. The weird rush to suggest the people driving and directing war aren't a legitimate target just seems kind of bizarre to me. Iran putting a bounty on Trumps head is pretty fantastic too imo. Better him than random Americans who have minimal responsibility for the attack
Here’s another one, this time including Khomeini and I think Imad Mughniyah, and I’m guessing a gathering of comrades fallen during the Iran-Iraq War:
Because it leads to massive escalations that could lead to a war in Iran.
Did... He defeated Isis remember...
As i say I understand wanting to avoid war but ... well if your going to start a war theres worse targets you could go for right?
3 rockets fired inside Green Zone in Baghdad. Casualties reported.
The US needs to have a referendum on whether they wish to avoid War by handing over Trump, Bolton & Pompeo to Iran.
I am guessing it will be 327 Million - YES. 3 - NO
3 Americans reported dead in an attack in Kenya also
You re not focusing on the issues most people seem to have with this - most don't disagree the man was bad news and a long time aggressor who probably deserved his fate. There being limited impact on civilians is great. The issue however is with what lead to this and what the potential (likely?) fallout of it is:
-not informing congressional and senate in the need to know circle other than Trump slaves like Graham and donors at a dinner party, in other words - acting yet again like the President stands above the legislative branch, not alongside it.
-The issue of the Eric Trump tweet announcing the pending attack, defense contractor stocks jumping and the tweet then being deleted.
-POTUS misleading the Iraqi PM to mediate with Iran only to then kill the general on Iraqi soil on his way to the meeting.
-Iraq not authorizing entry into its air space. Imagine if some other country came into our airspace and started bombing someone.
-The billions of American tax dollars that will now be consumed again by what is already turning into extensive and prolonged military action - if only to protect our people and interests and abroad.
-Giving the hardliners in Iran the ammunition they need to continue to suppress the pro reform groups - amp up it's nuclear ambitions, and likely rise of more and/or new terrorist cells to execute vengeance.
Etc..etc ...Honestly the worst part about it is simply down to this - whether you voted for the guy or not - Trump ran on a platform of in essence isolationism, withdrawal of troops, focus on pumping money into infrastructure and fixing healthcare - all the while actually making the world arguably less safe and more unstable in the long run and investing nothing in the homeland. I'd love for this to all be positive in the end but it's a little hard to see after decades of military intervention with little to show for it.
This is now basically the W administration all over again. A useful I'll-go-with-it guy as POTUS, while the hawks are running the show in the background. Don't forget Bolton said he would stop being silent on social media soon. Well- he s back.
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I would also love throwing Trump and Khomeini in a ring and let them fight to the death and end it there but any action taken towards war will lead to the suffering of civilians in the end. Although I totally get your point, sadly this assassination might end in the death of too many innocent.
What the hell is he even talking about?
I'm amazed you have so much faith in the US populace. They elected dumbass in the first place!
At least they aren't already claiming presence of nuclear weapons in Iran! Or is that Netanyahu's task?
They need time to think, just wait. Right now we are in a very bad situation.
He will probably wank himself to death thinking about his fetish of an Iran invasion.
TBF, his whole campaign was run on staying out of foreign conflicts and bring troops home. He was clearly lying but alot probably believed him at the time
Showing solidarity is going to be real fecking stupid when French and British troops are getting picked off like fish in a barrel in those Iranian mountains.
Imagine being on the brink of war and still ranting on Twitter about it. Trump really is a fecking lunatic. He makes Kim Jung Ill look like a well adjusted individual.
What would be the purpose of sending troops in? Can't see it myself.
Couple things that don't seem to have been touched on much here?
1. Trump called the Iraqi PM (according to the Iraqi PM) to arrange de-escalation talks after the Embassy attack. Iraq contacted Iran, Iran sent Soleimani to Iraq for the purpose of these talks. US then assassinated Soleimani.
For people who don't know, if this is as bad as it looks, this is a clear cut war crime. It's called Perfidy.
2. The Iraqi Parliament has voted to kick the US out of Iraq.
Trump may have officially lost the "Iraq War". He has handed Iraq to Iran, and by proxy, Russia. He will have potentially given ISIS the breathing room that it needs to reconstitute itself in Iraq, that is unless Iran and Russia step in to fill this void. If the US ignores this, well, that's tantamount to an act of war on the sovereignty of Iraq. Whether Iraq would take it that far, one thing would be for certain. We'd be back in 2007 era Iraq/US relations, with it open season on US troops everywhere in Iraq.
1. Trump called the Iraqi PM (according to the Iraqi PM) to arrange de-escalation talks after the Embassy attack. Iraq contacted Iran, Iran sent Soleimani to Iraq for the purpose of these talks. US then assassinated Soleimani.
For people who don't know, if this is as bad as it looks, this is a clear cut war crime. It's called Perfidy.
2. The Iraqi Parliament has voted to kick the US out of Iraq.
Trump may have officially lost the "Iraq War". He has handed Iraq to Iran, and by proxy, Russia. He will have potentially given ISIS the breathing room that it needs to reconstitute itself in Iraq, that is unless Iran and Russia step in to fill this void. If the US ignores this, well, that's tantamount to an act of war on the sovereignty of Iraq. Whether Iraq would take it that far, one thing would be for certain. We'd be back in 2007 era Iraq/US relations, with it open season on US troops everywhere in Iraq.
Johnson and Macron would be fine though. It isn't that they kids will be sent there, it is average Joes who will suffer. Like always!
They were expecting him to pivot.