You've screwed up the game of cricket.
well done.
That is all.
well done.
That is all.
Indians.
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Pardon?
IPL. 20/20.
The game has well and truly been shafted. Only because Mehro loves the shortened version of the game.
Stop this madness. Also India generates 90% of the revenue. If that isn't screwed up then I don't know what is.
Sorry, I just feel like a random rant.
The game has well and truly been shafted. Only because Mehro loves the shortened version of the game.
Stop this madness. Also India generates 90% of the revenue. If that isn't screwed up then I don't know what is.
Sorry, I just feel like a random rant.
Shouldn't the Brits also take their share of the blame?
IPL is a becoming more and more of a farce, can't believe Ricky Ponting got my respect but he did so by pulling out so he could concentrate on the Ashes.
IPL is a becoming more and more of a farce, can't believe Ricky Ponting got my respect but he did so by pulling out so he could concentrate on the Ashes.
Yup, you'll invented T20
Yes. The difference is that India is the cricketing superpower, tho'. Winning the 20/20 WC was the worst possible thing for the game. Not only is 20/20 taking over, but players would rather play in the IPL than for their countries. The game is in a huge mess. Previously England and Australia ran the game, and that wasn't ideal, but it's all about money thesedays. India's got such a huge target audience. . . loads are being made, but to the detriment of the game at large. I also don't think it's good for the game that India generates 90% revenue. But nothing can be done about that.
Tee hee. BCCI was against the T20 WC, only country who did not want it happen. ICC and the rest forced them to join and the conseqeucnes were rather predictable.
If BCCI has a genuine ambition, then can change the whole cricketing system as we know it. Tune up something similar to the football scene or to be more precise, American sports like NBA. World's best talents playing for Indian clubs or franchises on an year long contracts rather than four weeks one . But BCCI are not even a professional body and run by politicians and bureaucrats; so it probably won't happen.
I will cling to the hope that T20 bubble will burst.
i only like test matches...the rest are fecking shite.
Yes, but winning the 20/20 completely changed things. Had India lost the final then things probably would've been a lot different. I don't think this can be disputed. Fact is, it has changed the game. England are no better. The Stamford series was a joke, and the outcome served the players right.
We should be trying to save the game, and in particular test cricket. I don't mind 20/20. We could use the money generated to fund other nations and develop players. I feel cricket should be one big family. I enjoyed watching the great Windies teams, the likes of Warne, McGrath, Akram, Younis, Sachin, Hadlee et al as much as anyone. But if the test game dies out, we won't be seeing players of that quality again, mainly because 20/20 requires/creates different sorts of players. . .
I think you will hardly find any genuine cricket fan who will disagree with that.
Though I disagree that things would have been different if we had lost the final, if we had not performed well at all and got knocked out early then perhaps T20 would have never caught on in India. You can draw some parallel with the 1983 WC win, which triggered the massive market for cricket in India.
Dunno, I still think things are not that bad. Every board and ICC still have made it clear that they prioritize test cricket. Basically, they need to create a window for IPL, just like other major ICC events. There is some posturing from ICC regarding that because it's only a BCCI event and it is somewhat rival to their T20 WC. But finally this will have to happen because no one else can hand out the same contracts as IPL.
Though I disagree that things would have been different if we had lost the final, if we had not performed well at all and got knocked out early then perhaps T20 would have never caught on in India. You can draw some parallel with the 1983 WC win, which triggered the massive market for cricket in India.
Dunno, I still think things are not that bad. Every board and ICC still have made it clear that they prioritize test cricket. Basically, they need to create a window for IPL, just like other major ICC events. There is some posturing from ICC regarding that because it's only a BCCI event and it is somewhat rival to their T20 WC. But finally this will have to happen because no one else can hand out the same contracts as IPL.
I'm more cynical than yourself. Firstly money rules. Secondly, future generations of fans will prefer the 20/20 version of the game. It's short, more extravagant and I guess more exciting(well for the younger lot). And forget the ICC, India has the power, and I'm not sure you've exactly got the best interests of the game at heart. To be fair, I don't think any nation would in your position. No one knows how things will turn out, but I'm not sure how anyone can be positive at the mo.
I don't agree about the point about future generations. Sports culture is normally perpetuated along generational lines. A certain hardcore cricket following would always be there, it may diminish of course.
And yes, we have all the power and as I explained previously, can completely change the game for good or bad. Problem or the good thing is the, people in charge. BCCI cronies could have never come up with IPL, it is masterminded by Modi who is a businessman to the core. If they get more people like that involved, then you will probably see BCCI trying to wrestle control from ICC.
And yes, we have all the power and as I explained previously, can completely change the game for good or bad. Problem or the good thing is the, people in charge. BCCI cronies could have never come up with IPL, it is masterminded by Modi who is a businessman to the core. If they get more people like that involved, then you will probably see BCCI trying to wrestle control from ICC.
I haven't seen any drop in the level of test cricket since T20 became big. In fact, interest might go up because it has had a positive influence on the runrate in test cricket.
True, we've screwed up cricket. Blame the clueless Indian public for falling to this hype, test cricket should get dead and buried in the next ten years time and these days even the ODI's hardly generate any interest.
But England also screwed it up on the other way around when falling county attendances and conservative management saw the sport being thrashed by football in the 60's and 70's and never recovered back. If not for Prudential world cup the game would've been only as popular as Gaelic football outside England.
There are lot many things happenning around that annoys us, but we have to live with that.
But England also screwed it up on the other way around when falling county attendances and conservative management saw the sport being thrashed by football in the 60's and 70's and never recovered back. If not for Prudential world cup the game would've been only as popular as Gaelic football outside England.
There are lot many things happenning around that annoys us, but we have to live with that.
Cricketers like Balaji, Pathan, Dhoni, Gambhir and other nameless morons are the worst possible thing to happen to Indian cricket on the pitch.
BCCI is the worst possible thing to happen to cricket overall.
Its the combination of these two things that undid the game, 20-20 is a by product.
These days I prefer watching our team play only for Tendulkar alone, after he fecks off thats done for me.
ok?
You're talking shit like usual. Did you look at the squad list and just randomly pick names?
Balaji hasn't played a test match for India in 5 years, Pathan hasn't really been in the team. Gambhir doesn't have anything of a public profile. Dhoni's been amazing as a captain.
You don't watch cricket, do you? I'm guessing you just like getting involved in all debates and looked up some names on wikipedia.
There's been a drop in test matches.
Well, kids coming through have a dream to play in the IPL rather than respresent their countries at Test level. I've heard many of them say so. You can't really blame them either, everyone wants to be rich. Well, as you've said, Modi's a businessmen, he's got money at heart and not the game. I don't see why others will think differently.
cricket has never been able to compete with football in this country. However, in the 70's, OT used to get full houses against Yorkshire, but the game died out at the level. Hence 20/20. As I said, earlier, I don't mind it, if used the right way it can have a positive effect on the game.
I've said it once and I'll say it again.
Ireland once beat Pakistan at cricket.
Ireland once beat Pakistan at cricket.
Test length cricket is generally dull as feck. You might have the odd half an hour of excitement in a 5 test series but unless you LOVE cricket there is little on offer.
Which is why 20/20 appeals to people who wouldn't regard themselves as cricket fans.
so its ok if you choose club over country in football but not in cricket ????
Let me get this right, you think some IPL franchise is more prestigious than playing for your country at test level. . .
okayyyy......
It's about money, though.
so let me get this right
you think playing for manchester united is more prestigious than playing for your country ??
atleast thats what half of the ingurland fans on this forum believe
I think there's nowt wrong with choosing club over country. Football is generally about the club game. Football roots are based firmly in the NW(lancs) and the old mill towns. There's just so much history attached to club football. Now, an IPL franchise doesn't have any history or prestige. I'm sure you can see the difference. Choosing Lancs over England = ok. Choosing Chennai Baseball Storm over Test cricket isn't right. Understandski?
Money.
whats good for the geese is good for the gander
current football players have feckall to do with teh 100 year old history of the club
they are there for the money......simple
so there is nothing wrong if a certain andrew flintoff does the same
comprende ?
If you can't see the difference between playing test cricket and an IPL franchise, there's not much help for you.
20/20 is the future - you might not like it but start getting used to it ...
and if you see difference in making money in one way or another then there ain't much I can do to help you as well
20/20 might be the future, but TEST cricket will always stay and will be the best out there as far as testing the individual's cricketing skills as a whole.
Yes, and that's the point I'm making which you keep on failing to grasp. Kids(not just kids, but most senior cricketers) would rather play 20/20 and earn loads of cash rather than play test cricket. No one is blaming them. But it is bad for the game and not just Test cricket. (Sri Lankan players, being a good example - English test series used to be the high point for every cricketer).
yeah and the fact that the english team has turned shite has nothing to do with the devaluation of an english test series....yeah rite
Well done.
No, there hasn't.
Dhoni an amazing captain
Its not the public life you little sod, almost all these cricketers don't have the quality to compete beyond a certain level. Dearth in the quality of bowlers, doctored pitches and other shite has puffed them beyond their actual worth....20/20 has only made things more worse.
20-20 is basically a mafia clique organized by inflated businees men and Indian politicians to rob money and muppets like you usually wank over that.
I dont mind paying money to watch 20-20 version if the likes of Richards, Tendulkar, Lara or Gilchirst play in there, but not these tossers who cannot drive the ball straight.
Goose?
Football is also rotten to the core, its not about players demanding money but at least the level of muppets running the game are restriced not beyond a certain point.
In cricket the biggest problem are the administrators, with the fat fecks of BCCI calling the shots over ICC, it can only get worse...they give feck all for promoting test cricket, like changing rules to make it result oriented instead its all about money and their franchise, more runs can fool common public that the game is in great shape although the quality of cricketers on a downward spiral.
If India play Pakistan three or four matches in a year it can generate interest but thanks to the morons and the clueless public, but BCCI are making it a point for every other team to play three times a week and twice on Sundays.
Mini world cup rubbish a.k.a champions trophy was yet another brainchild of BCCI and loads of meaning less matches has robbed the glamour out of World cups completely. These days its another tournment with regular gimps squaring off each other.
Thanks to BCCI even the English cricket has become less laughable.
U2-Me2 A new WC tournament from ICC on the pipeline
Rules
1. Every team can bowl only two overs.
2. Every player should bowl one delivery per match, the specialist bowler can chance his arm twice, if he's not injured.
3. Every player should face atmost one delivery per match, with the best batsman a possiblity of two, if he dosent get out.
4. The whole tournament would get finished in two days.
To ensure every test playing nation stand are given fair trail, the World cup would be held once in every two months.
Dhoni would win the tourney, another feather to this cap ...
zing and his muppet brigade "We are happy"
Rules
1. Every team can bowl only two overs.
2. Every player should bowl one delivery per match, the specialist bowler can chance his arm twice, if he's not injured.
3. Every player should face atmost one delivery per match, with the best batsman a possiblity of two, if he dosent get out.
4. The whole tournament would get finished in two days.
To ensure every test playing nation stand are given fair trail, the World cup would be held once in every two months.
Dhoni would win the tourney, another feather to this cap ...
zing and his muppet brigade "We are happy"
I agree BCCI have too much power over the ICC
but you can't blame them for cashing in on the hysteria amongst the Indian public
they see an opportunity to mint money and they take it
anyone else would do the same in their position
I went to a cricket match once. Dull as feck. The first 30 minutes was midly enjoyable, but after that I felt like killing myself. I spent the whole afternoon drinking Guinness after Guinness just to escape the seemingly endless horror that was unfolding infront of me. If 20/20 is shorter, then it can only be a good thing.