Inconsistent Ruud

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Sometimes he looks like the best striker in the world, while sometimes he looks like an average first divison player.

I'm not knocking Ruud, I just want to mean that every striker has up and down, and it is difficult for a striker to remain in top scoring form all thru the season (even Henry and Owen is haveing a difficult period). So it's important we get a new striker in January, so that we'd have more option when we need to chase a game.
 
We do put a lot of responsibility on his shoulders these days, especially as OGS is playing wider.

Considering all these midfielders are fighting to play in the middle they aren't exactly rushing in and drastically increasing their goal tallies.

Another out and out goal scorer would be a nice back up/alternative to add.
 
Oh for the good old days when the sight of Sheri and OGS warming up caused opposing managers to crap themselves.
I think perhaps having Yorke and Cole in the prime of their careers, and at the same time Sheri and OGS, will go down in Utd history as a golden age, might not come around again for a while. Certainly Ruud has a huge load to carry at present. Although such a load didn't seem to worry King Eric.
 
I agree we need a new striker....a good pacey one..Ruud has been terrible in the last two matches....
 
We need competition for Ruud. There is really nobody to fight with him for the place. He is probably the first name in the starting XI. We so need another similar striker!
 
If Ruud is inconsistent what does that make of Cole, Yorke, Teddy, or even Cantona?
 
No need for this thread.

We can't expect a player who is scoring 40+ goals a year for us to bail us out every time. Ole and Diego are going to have to make up the slack when RVN has the occasional off day. Hence (and here it comes) the need to buy another striker like Cisse. :D
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>No need for this thread.

We can't expect a player who is scoring 40+ goals a year for us to bail us out every time. Ole and Diego are going to have to make up the slack when RVN has the occasional off day. Hence (and here it comes) the need to buy another striker like Cisse. :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

The record speaks for itself and Ruud has been fantastic. However, if you want to win championships then in tight games like these the few chances that present themselves must be taken. I wonder about another stiker. With only one upfront in the current system where's he going to play? Will he alternate with Ruud ? Or sit on the bench and wait his chance to come on later ? Is Fergie going to outlay 15m or whatever for someone to sit on the bench ? Personally, I think Diego playing off Ruud is not a bad option. It worked in the Liverpool game and to a certain extent looked OK yesterday. Giggs is the worry at the moment unfortunately.
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I think Ruud has been superb so far since recovering from the early season dip.

But just maybe he's encountering his second dip of the season.. he hasn't looked very sharp in the last 2-3 games and has needed more chances before grabbing a goal.

I agree, we need a substitute striker to partner Forlan or OGS when Ruud is warming up the bench.
 
Originally posted by Julian Denny:
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The record speaks for itself and Ruud has been fantastic. However, if you want to win championships then in tight games like these the few chances that present themselves must be taken. I wonder about another stiker. With only one upfront in the current system where's he going to play? Will he alternate with Ruud ? Or sit on the bench and wait his chance to come on later ? Is Fergie going to outlay 15m or whatever for someone to sit on the bench ? Personally, I think Diego playing off Ruud is not a bad option. It worked in the Liverpool game and to a certain extent looked OK yesterday. Giggs is the worry at the moment unfortunately.</strong><hr></blockquote>

In the past when Cole and Yorke were not performing throughout a game, we can have the choice to throw in Sheri and Ole to change the game. Yesterday we just lacked that kind of alternative, therefore Ruud had to be on the field even when he looked totally abnormal. With the current system, since Ole could play on the wings, a new second striker to cover and challenge Ruud is a must.
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yes lets leave him up front on his own all day against two 6ft 5in centrebacks and hope he scores a shed load

the armchair fans on here get worse
 
Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>the armchair fans on here get worse</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good for a <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> @ times though init?
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Uranus is a fecking muppet. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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In the past when Cole and Yorke were not performing throughout a game, we can have the choice to throw in Sheri and Ole to change the game. Yesterday we just lacked that kind of alternative, therefore Ruud had to be on the field even when he looked totally abnormal. With the current system, since Ole could play on the wings, a new second striker to cover and challenge Ruud is a must.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Then presumably with the current system of one upfront you've got to get a striker who's prepared to sit on the bench as Ruud despite two abysmal performances is our first choice. Gudjohnnsen's used to it at Chelsea !!
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He misses a few chances in the last two games and he gets this??

When he stops even getting the chances, then that is the time to worry.
 
Originally posted by Spoony:
<strong>Uranus is a fecking muppet. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

And so says all of Tolgate ;)
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Unfortunately defences have got better. Name me one premiership striker including Owen, JFH, Henry and Beattie who doesn't need at least 4 golden chances in order to score one goal. Strikers are all the same. It all comes down to being in the right place at the right time and having decent service. I would be worried if we weren't even creating the openings. Ruud will come good. Count the goal tally at the end of the season.
 
Ruud's fecking knackered. We saw it last season that playing up front in a 4-5-1 leads to burn-out later in the season. Its tempting to rely on him because he's so good, but he can't play every game, twice a week, week in week out all season - he needs rotating like every other player. Unfortunately because we're lacking another physical forward who can lead the line, he gets played more than he really should.
 
Originally posted by sidsutton:
<strong>He misses a few chances in the last two games and he gets this??

When he stops even getting the chances, then that is the time to worry.</strong><hr></blockquote>

if he stops getting the chances then the problems would have been with the midfield creating the chances.

and he's not getting anything, some of us here feel he hasn't looked very sharp in the last few games - which is true. Though some of us still don't realize he'll back in no time and you can't really expect your lone striker to score and bail you out every single game. He gets 40 goals a year and that doesn't seem to be enough for some people. :rolleyes:
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cant believe twats on here moaning about ruud, hes not fecking superman you know

sad twats lose a game and u have to find someone to blame

i wish some of you lot had supported us when we were really shit.
 
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>cant believe twats on here moaning about ruud, hes not fecking superman you know

sad twats lose a game and u have to find someone to blame

i wish some of you lot had supported us when we were really shit.</strong><hr></blockquote>


We've never been shit.

Just not always as good as we could be. :)
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Originally posted by Spoony:
<strong>Uranus is a fecking muppet. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I've already said in my post that this thread is not for blaming Ruud, but just for explaining why we still need to get one more striker.

If you don't agree, explain why. Use foul language means you don't have enough intelligence to give a reasonable opinion yourself.
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the mans going to our greatest ever striker! look how many goals he has scored, in a couple of seasons, look at his record in the champions league! he cant score evry fecking game you muppet, so what if he has a few off games, if you think you can do better get a fecking contract and go find yourself a club and show us all how the game should be played and how the goals should be fecking scored!

bah humbug!

ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud
 
just to say sorry about the amount of swear words in my last post!
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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I've already said in my post that this thread is not for blaming Ruud, but just for explaining why we still need to get one more striker.

If you don't agree, explain why. Use foul language means you don't have enough intelligence to give a reasonable opinion yourself.</strong><hr></blockquote>
PM for you Uranus. <img src="graemlins/santa.gif" border="0" alt="[Santa]" />
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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PM for you Uranus. <img src="graemlins/santa.gif" border="0" alt="[Santa]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

:) <img src="graemlins/santa.gif" border="0" alt="[Santa]" /> <img src="graemlins/snowman.gif" border="0" alt="[Snowman]" /> :)
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Originally posted by uranushk1:
<strong>Sometimes he looks like the best striker in the world, while sometimes he looks like an average first divison player.
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Everybody will have some bad games.
Look what had happened to Crespo and Ronaldo.
inter fans were upset bcos he hasn't scored in
two weeks....
Ronaldo far worse... fans are demanding that he should return to Brazil.

RVN's form is better than these two.
Give credit to the Goalie..
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Originally posted by uranushk1:
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I've already said in my post that this thread is not for blaming Ruud, but just for explaining why we still need to get one more striker.

If you don't agree, explain why. Use foul language means you don't have enough intelligence to give a reasonable opinion yourself.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I completely agree with u....
I'm gettin a lot of stick on my thread, but justify your opinions is what I have to say....
No-one seems to understand...
atleast i made a successful thread! ;)
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Wrong use of the word inconsistant...Ruud is the most consistant striker in the league IMO.

But we cant rely on him throughout a season, it didnt work last year when Ole was banging them in too, and it wont work this year even if Forlan has started scoring.

If we dont buy soon, any double/treble is out of the question. we might be able to sneak one trophy though if Ruud stays at this level, but if he loses form - we wont qualify for the champions league.

Ruud is the difference between us not being able to beat Blackburn and Man City and us winning the European Cup, its too much for one guy.
 
Inconsistent..

I don't believe it's just Ruud that is inconsistent. It's the team performance that seems inconsistent to me. Yes he had a one on one and didn't score from it. It's our expectation that he ALWAYS will score from those opportunities that shows how much faith we put in him. I've seen Owen, Ronaldo, Henry and the like not score from bigger opportunities.
 
I dont care what you think of my reply, but to even THINK of criticising Ruud is the act of a fool, man, check his phenomenal goal scoring record, its unbelievable, especially when you consider-

a: How poor we were last season(for most of it)

b: that he had a cruciate injury the previous year.

So he hasnt scored in a couple of games, big deal.

Ruud is already a United legend imho.
 
Want want want . . . is all I read on here!

van Nistelrooy is human, Humans believe it or not arm't robots, they can't perform exactly the same day in day out, its impossible

If Ruud doesn't score a single goal all season next year but sets up 50, you could probably bet that half this board will be calling his head despite setting up 50 . . .
 
its a joke to call him inconsistent..

sommat like, 55 goals in 60 odd games..

if that isn't consistent...

then i give up.. coz i haven't got fecking clue what is.


all players have off days..... yes even RVN! :eek:


kinell.


just watched SkySports and they were talking about Shearer....and how compares to the best two of the current crop, Henry and RUUD VAN NISTELROOY.


nope...no owen.....

they were singing RVNs praises...unlike the friggin muppets and WUM on here.

BTW..if not scoring in two games is a 'difficult period'..then it means that either he's been VERY consistent or the muppet who started this topic is.....well..a muppet. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />


.....he's the best we've had since law.....and a legend in the making.. i can see him toping the scoring charts this year n'all...in the PL and CL.


RVN=class.
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>its a joke to call him inconsistent..

sommat like, 55 goals in 60 odd games..

if that isn't consistent...

then i give up.. coz i haven't got fecking clue what is.


all players have off days..... yes even RVN! :eek:


kinell.


just watched SkySports and they were talking about Shearer....and how compares to the best two of the current crop, Henry and RUUD VAN NISTELROOY.


nope...no owen.....

they were singing RVNs praises...unlike the friggin muppets and WUM on here.

BTW..if not scoring in two games is a 'difficult period'..then it means that either he's been VERY consistent or the muppet who started this topic is.....well..a muppet. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />


.....he's the best we've had since law.....and a legend in the making.. i can see him toping the scoring charts this year n'all...in the PL and CL.


RVN=class.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Never said he is not an excellent player. He is class, probably one of the top ten striker in the world now. And as United fans, I truely understand why people rate him so high and hope he will become a legend.

As i've pointed out when starting the thread, even Henry and Owen are inconsistent and cannot always score. But when Henry cannot score he can still contribute in a lot of other ways, and there are also a number of striker who can come out when Henry is not doing right. But being a pure targetman and the only targetman, we don't have any option to improve the situation when Ruud has an off-day.

Remember in the past, when Cole and Yorke had an off-day there were always Sheri and Ole waiting on the bench. But now when Ruud has an off-day what do we get on the bench? Unlike in PL, in CL we just can't tolerate too many defeats. So getting one more striker option is very important, that's what I want to say in starting this thread. I don't know saying this will make me a muppet, but at least I believe my option do make sense, unlike someone who always give non-sense comments.
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Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
<strong>Wrong use of the word inconsistant...Ruud is the most consistant striker in the league IMO.

But we cant rely on him throughout a season, it didnt work last year when Ole was banging them in too, and it wont work this year even if Forlan has started scoring.

If we dont buy soon, any double/treble is out of the question. we might be able to sneak one trophy though if Ruud stays at this level, but if he loses form - we wont qualify for the champions league.

Ruud is the difference between us not being able to beat Blackburn and Man City and us winning the European Cup, its too much for one guy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I totally agree what you said Shaolin, and that's also just what I want to say in this thread. If the name of the topic make people think I'm knocking Ruud, then I can applogize to them.
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