Let's not turn this thread into a Political debate. Take it to the CE Forum if you guys are really interested in discussing this.
ICC Champions Trophy 2017
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Then I really dont get your line of reasoning.
brilliant.
You got your comeuppance, now shut up.
Yeah fair. Its been obvious baiting hoping to get a rise by derailing the thread. Shame as its been such a good tournament despite the final not living up to what it should have been.
Only if you're an Indian fan, everyone else thought it was great.
threaten?! Oh kay Then!
PS. What's it like sitting down this morning? Please use a cushion!
The quality of your jibes match the quality of your posts, at least you have that going for you.
There's always some special posters in every thread, just like real life. Just have to ignore them as the thread overall has been in very good spirits.
Very amused it has kicked off in a Cricket thread. Great stuff.
Good spirits = when India team fans
abuse all other fans because their team is so dominant.
Not good spirits = when India loses and their fans can't take the kick back.
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Yes, just don't post in the thread when India has lost and posters are in a foul mood. It's only fair, because we own cricket, with BCCI and shit. lol
As neutral as Fox news.
Ordinarily, I'd engage in a debate and point out how you've convinced yourself of something that hasn't happened and then tried to justify your idiocy as a response to that but you've proved over the past day that you're not worth engaging in a logical way. I'd rather sit back and wait for the high quality "use a cushion today morning' jibes.
Well this thread is a clusterfeck.
Someone on cricinfo threw out a stat saying Kohli in 8 big final innings has an average of 22 with no 50s or centuries.
That can't be true, can it?
Someone on cricinfo threw out a stat saying Kohli in 8 big final innings has an average of 22 with no 50s or centuries.
That can't be true, can it?
It's true. To be fair I think Sachin would have a pretty similar record too. He was out cheaply in both the wc finals he played.
How many finals did Sachin play in?
ICC finals just 2 given one CL final in Sri Lanka got washed out.
Sachin had a good record in ODI finals in general before it tapered off towards the end.
Thought so, i would imagine Kohli has played in more.
Gilchrist probably has the best record in finals in recent times.
Really surprised. Seen him play so many crucial innings, tough to think he's struggled so much in finals.
Then again, he has a LOT of time left to get things right.
Kohli's knock in 2011 final was actually pretty crucial for us since his partnership stabilized our innings after the early 2 wickets and did not expose Dhoni/Yuvi early to their pacers. He played a good hand in T20 WC final we lost to SRL before being hampered by Yuvi at the other end. He generally plays well under pressure, perhaps better than any other Indian batsmen over last 2 decades, so I think we wills see big runs from him in finals sooner than later.
To be fair those stats can be misleading without the context of the game. Off the top of my head, he was top scorer in the rain effected 2013 final and also played a decent knock in the 2011 WC final.
Fair enough, you and @crappycraperson highlighting context.
Not sure what are the 'big finals' for kohli.
He has 1 wc final, 2 CT final, 1 T20 wc final. Maybe they count the u19 final too?
Sachin averages 54 in ODI finals overall, which obviously includes tri-series and all. Has 6 hundreds.
Was in the stadium that day.. The anger at Jadeja was palpable.. He took the strike off Sachin when he was in such a flow..
Ah well,had a feeling we would get a spanking.. But that was something else.. Damn..
Hopefully we'll replace Dhoni and Yuvi now.. Overall not a bad tournament.. Didn't think we should even reach the finals considering all the Kohli-Kumble handbags before the tourney even started!
Hopefully we'll replace Dhoni and Yuvi now.. Overall not a bad tournament.. Didn't think we should even reach the finals considering all the Kohli-Kumble handbags before the tourney even started!
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Or club/Ranji trophy finals?
What the hell is this journalist?
Kohli being rubbish in finals is pure shit. Like most have stated, hes had some important innings in finals. Plus hes amazing under pressure.
*ahem* You were saying?
How about Mohammad Amir's bowling spell? Wasn't old enough to watch Akram's '92 spell but is it comparable? Obviously that was in a world cup and swung way more but Amir got much better batsmen out.
I might be in the minority but I didn't really think Amir's spell was extraordinary. It was a very good one. Fakhar's century was rightly awarded the man of the match IMO.
I'm Pakistani, but it's Kohli over SRT every day of the week for me...
Both great batsmen, but Kohli has done it much more often in crunch situations than Sachin ever did, and most of Sachin's centuries were stat padding and centuries in drawn tests or inconsequential to the end result of the game. Virat on the other hand, just seems to step it up by a gear or four when India need him to. And in this era of blasters, he's one of the very few along with Root and Williamson, who play proper cricketing shots and rely on touch and finesse... I hate him when he plays against us, but I genuinely love to watch him play against anyone else.
I'd say this is the same among most Pak fans too. SRT was never as well liked or respected for his achievements among us as he perhaps should have been, but Kohli is just a proper gun player, and genuinely special. He'll end his career as India's greatest batsman IMO.
Both great batsmen, but Kohli has done it much more often in crunch situations than Sachin ever did, and most of Sachin's centuries were stat padding and centuries in drawn tests or inconsequential to the end result of the game. Virat on the other hand, just seems to step it up by a gear or four when India need him to. And in this era of blasters, he's one of the very few along with Root and Williamson, who play proper cricketing shots and rely on touch and finesse... I hate him when he plays against us, but I genuinely love to watch him play against anyone else.
I'd say this is the same among most Pak fans too. SRT was never as well liked or respected for his achievements among us as he perhaps should have been, but Kohli is just a proper gun player, and genuinely special. He'll end his career as India's greatest batsman IMO.
It really wasn't that great. Lazy from Rohit and stupid from Kohli. The ball to Dhawan was great, though. It was a good spell on a flat wicket. And to be fair, Bhuvi bowled a very decent 5 over spell, too, conceding only 10 runs. The spell from Wahab Riaz back in 2015 was comparable to Wasim in 92.