Ibrahimovic's replacement for whenever he leaves? Could also be strikers we usually don't talk about

If rooney is leaving too and zlatan who seem to be out for a year now , giezmann is must , and now martial has to decide weather to play as a winger or striker ,Depending on which we may sign another striker like mertens hernandez forbackup or a winger to replace martial on the wing.

Alvaro morata on loan might be good too.
 
The red panther said:
People are crazy these days when discussing transfer fees, every player who is a bit good is now a mandatory £100m minimum signing. Whilst £89m for Pogba is the world record, it is ridiculous.

Griezmann will go for his release clause which is £85m

A striker like Belotti would cost around £60m whilst Lukaku would cost around £70m.

That is about £150m which is what we spend last summer aswell.

Now we have also sold Schneiderlin and Depay for £40m which should be more than enough to buy a decent DM like Fabinho

I'am pretty sure we will let go off Rooney and we are forced to let Zlatan go, we have also already let Schweinsteiger go and we might let Young/Carrick go aswell. So we ill have a huge wage cost cleared off our bill that will also allow us to invest more in new signings.

Add to that we will likley also sell a couple of players for which we might get a transfer fee, Januzaj, Smalling/Jones, maybay Darmian.

And I'am pretty sure there will be enough financial room for 1 or 2 more signings like a fullback and a centreback who also won't cost us the earth. Should find good players for £25m-£30m (so £50m-£60m for both).

That would be a transfer window of around £250m:
  • £150m-£175M as a net investment
  • £40m we still have in the bank for selling schneiderlin and Depay
  • The rest will be covered from savings in wages and selling some more players
Griezmann
Lukaku
Fabinho
Aurier
Manolas

Good summer
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We dont need rb if we sign fabinho and have AV. Also Lukaku and giezmann can not be bought together and rashford and martial are both stuck on the wing with no winger options with young sold.
 
prtk0811 said:
We dont need rb if we sign fabinho and have AV. Also Lukaku and giezmann can not be bought together and rashford and martial are both stuck on the wing with no winger options with young sold.
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I would buy Fabinho as a DM not as RB, I need him to play in the midfield so he can't be a cover for Valencia because who will be cover for Fabinho ? Both are starters for me.

Lukaku and Griezmann can perfectly be bought together, give me 1 reason why that wouldn't be possible ?

Our wingers are Lingard, Mkhitaryan, Mata and Martial, if we buy Griezmann he could also play on the wing because he is very versatile. Not to mention we will probably bring Pereira back and he could also play as winger if needed.
 
The red panther said:
I would buy Fabinho as a DM not as RB, I need him to play in the midfield so he can't be a cover for Valencia because who will be cover for Fabinho ? Both are starters for me.

Lukaku and Griezmann can perfectly be bought together, give me 1 reason why that wouldn't be possible ?

Our wingers are Lingard, Mkhitaryan, Mata and Martial, if we buy Griezmann he could also play on the wing because he is very versatile. Not to mention we will probably bring Pereira back and he could also play as winger if needed.
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Yeah fabinho is a dm bit also can cover as a rb, while fellani and carrick can both fill in for him in the midfeild, while blind and fosu mensah is also capable of playing on both positions so spending on rb is point less right now.

If lukaku and griezman are bought together than we will have no money for other targets as well, like fabinho and lindelof in cb and posiibely a winger too , while rashford will be struck on the wing again and its debatable what's martial's best position is in this philosophy because he is struggling on the wing under jose mourinho.

Also lack of wide players is a concern as Mkh is better as a 10 and mata too , while lingard is a squad player. Martial is also not an out and out winger , so our squad and the team will be unbalanced.
 
I wonder how we would line up with Lukaku, Griezmann and Fabinho. Maybe a 4-4-2 diamond, something like:

Lukaku - Griezmann
Mkhitaryan
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera
LB - Rojo - Bailly - Valencia
De Gea
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Or perhaps a more standard 4-4-2 if Mourinho wouldn't want to use a diamond:

Lukaku - Griezmann
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera - Mkhitaryan
LB - Rojo - Bailly - Valencia
De Gea
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I think Herrera has to be a first XI player next season after what he has done this season, so if a 4-2-3-1 with Pogba and Herrera as DM isn't strong enough defensively he might go for something like this. Pogba has played LM for Juventus before hasn't he?
 
Nick. said:
I wonder how we would line up with Lukaku, Griezmann and Fabinho. Maybe a 4-4-2 diamond, something like:

Lukaku - Griezmann
Mkhitaryan
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera
LB - Rojo - Bailly - Valencia
De Gea
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Or perhaps a more standard 4-4-2 if Mourinho wouldn't want to use a diamond:

Lukaku - Griezmann
Pogba - Fabinho - Herrera - Mkhitaryan
LB - Rojo - Bailly - Valencia
De Gea
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I think Herrera has to be a first XI player next season after what he has done this season, so if a 4-2-3-1 with Pogba and Herrera as DM isn't strong enough defensively he might go for something like this. Pogba has played LM for Juventus before hasn't he?
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Play 1 good team versus Chelsea keeping Hazard out of the match ?
 
Attila said:
Why do you think each player will cost £100m? Griezmann has a release clause of like £85m. I doubt belotti will cost £115m
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Other teams will ask as much as they want. Juventus milked us for 90M and more teams will do the same to us, we don't need 2 strikers anyway. We already have Rashford and Martial as the 2nd and 3rd choice strikers. I would rather focus on signing one striker and spend the rest of the money on other key positions.
 
The red panther said:
Play 1 good team versus Chelsea keeping Hazard out of the match ?
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I think Herrera has been one of our best players this season. So yes, I think it would be really harsh to bench him for a Pogba + X combination in Central midfield.
 
Utd7 said:
I think your math is off. The transfer market has been inflated for quite some time but 600 million for 6 players? Each player is going to cost us a 100 million now huh :lol:
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Well, some people think we need 3 or 4 players who cost more than 80M. It's not their money anyway so they don't care how much United spends as long as their big transfer fantasies come true.
 
Knowing José personally i'm pretty sure it's gonna be Morata
 
prtk0811 said:
He is everything, like a Rooney. Striker, Second striker, Can operate on the wing if needed. Vesatile player.
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Yes I don't think he would ever be our no9, basically he would replace Rooney and not Ibra. So we could still sign an Ibra replacement. (Or should)
 
Cassidy said:
Yes I don't think he would ever be our no9, basically he would replace Rooney and not Ibra. So we could still sign an Ibra replacement. (Or should)
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Rashford and martial can both be strikers , Martial is stuggling on the wing under jose mourinho and his skills are getting wasted which are deadly in the box, he has to be used right until he decides he is mainly a striker or a winger or LWF as currently he can do it all.
 
prtk0811 said:
Rashford and martial can both be strikers , Martial is stuggling on the wing under jose mourinho and his skills are getting wasted which are deadly in the box, he has to be used right until he decides he is mainly a striker or a winger or LWF as currently he can do it all.
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Mourinho won't leave our no 9 position next season down to just Rashford and Martial. Only one has shown they can be trusted so far. Martial is seen as a left sided player clearly too. I will be surprised if we don't sign a 9, it would also be a big risk, we can't afford not to challenge next season.

We can't really reasonably expect either to score 30 goals next season. Its a possibility but we will need to sign someone just in case.

The way I see it.

Rashford + new 9 strikers
Griezmann Martial Mhiki Lingard goalscoring attackers

EDIT: I left Mata out as I think he will be sold for some reason
 
MadMike said:
What are you guys even talking about? Our problem is scoring goals. Mandzukic does not score goals. He doesn't even play as a striker at the moment he plays as a defensive winger for Juventus. He has like 7 goals in 40 games, which is worse stats per 90' than any of Mata, Martial, Mkhi. How will he help to replace Ibra's 25 goals?

If we want a stop gap, Dries Mertens is the man. He is marginally younger (30 in a few weeks), he's entering the last year of his contract (which means very cheap) and he's been playing much better both as a winger and as a striker for Napoli. He's been double figures every season as a winger and when he was switched centrally he started banging 'em in (27 and counting...). Oh and he also works extremely hard for the team.

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Mertens is a better player, but Mandzukic is a pretty classic Mourinho 9 type and his goalscoring numbers being down this year are probably because he's played LW for half his games. He looked decent against Barcelona, just not that likely to score from a wide position, and maybe he'll want a move in order to be a 9 again.

I can't see us signing Mertens and Griezmann. I could see us signing Griezmann and then Mandzukic to give us this:

--------Rashford/Manduzkic------
Mkhitaryan/Martial-------Griezmann/Mata

with Lingard as the extra cover/depth. And in weaker games, we'd play 4-2-3-1 and start one of Mata or Martial too.
 
prtk0811 said:
Yeah fabinho is a dm bit also can cover as a rb, while fellani and carrick can both fill in for him in the midfeild, while blind and fosu mensah is also capable of playing on both positions so spending on rb is point less right now.

If lukaku and griezman are bought together than we will have no money for other targets as well, like fabinho and lindelof in cb and posiibely a winger too , while rashford will be struck on the wing again and its debatable what's martial's best position is in this philosophy because he is struggling on the wing under jose mourinho.

Also lack of wide players is a concern as Mkh is better as a 10 and mata too , while lingard is a squad player. Martial is also not an out and out winger , so our squad and the team will be unbalanced.
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> No money
> Manchester United
Choose one buddy
 
Time to try Martial as a striker or second striker. He's not going to be a winger for us. Just not in his game.
 
broccoli said:
Knowing José personally i'm pretty sure it's gonna be Morata
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Is morata even that good though?

His goal return isn't great and Jose knows we need the ball put in the back of the net.
 
VP89 said:
Is morata even that good though?

His goal return isn't great and Jose knows we need the ball put in the back of the net.
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I've seen statistics that show that he's the most effective goal scorer in RM per minute played, just behind Ronaldo.
Don't know if he's good enough to be our main nr.9 but I'd certainly like to have him in our squad. Has a completely different style to Rashford or Martial and could be had for around 40 or 50 million Euros.
 
How much can we spend though? If we don't want to spend too much money, perhaps Benteke could work.

I am not sure we actually need a replacement though. Maybe Rashford or Martial could step up a notch and fill the gap, with the help of Griezmann.
 
Morata would be a good deal I think, pretty hard worker which would suit mou, seems to be able to bring the best out of other players so mhiki, martial and possible griezmann could thrive
 
Griezmann/lukaku/bellotti/mbappe
One of these and i ll be happy.
 
The red panther said:
I would buy Fabinho as a DM not as RB, I need him to play in the midfield so he can't be a cover for Valencia because who will be cover for Fabinho ? Both are starters for me.

Lukaku and Griezmann can perfectly be bought together, give me 1 reason why that wouldn't be possible ?

Our wingers are Lingard, Mkhitaryan, Mata and Martial, if we buy Griezmann he could also play on the wing because he is very versatile. Not to mention we will probably bring Pereira back and he could also play as winger if needed.
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I cant see Mourinho playing a novice. How many games have TFM or Tuanzebe played this season? No he will buy a couple of young(ish) but experienced CM, and maybe a proper winger.
 
I'm all for moving Rashford and Martial into the middle and getting someone ala Griezmann who can play just off of them.
 
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