I went on the City stadium tour at the weekend

Many people who support City are just fans of Guardiola. Once Guardiola moves to some other club, they will move as well.

Just like people who support Ronaldo and Messi rather than the clubs they play in.
People like that are very sad football is supposed to be to your club or country
 
There is the City pre cash infusion and the post one. The average City fan of today doesn't have a clue of the previous eras and it doesn't really matter. If City were to slip back into mid table status or lower, they would simply jump to another team within a few years. This is a different interest into football solely tied to success only.

I am not bashing those fans as in some ways there is a general obsession surrounding the need for success. These fans, do not in large, pretend to be lifelong supporters either. A complete history of the club is not important. For us fans of history and who are nostalgic characters, it may be a bit shocking but not every one shares the same desire to immerse themselves, and instead choose to live in the present only. The approach may lack any romantic aura and real passion, but t's convenient and it is practical. People will put in what they need out if it.
 
Why did they build statues for Silva, Aguero and Kompany for? I get that they are legends but strange. I mean United don’t build statues for Cantona, Keane and Scholes, do we?

They don’t have any one else really.
 
It was my stepsons birthdays earlier this month, so we took them to Manchester for the night at Hotel Football, and as one is a blue, and one a red, we also did the stadium tour at each ground.

City's had no museum at all, nothing really about any of the history of the club bar a 2 minute video at the start about how Manchester is theirs, and showing the Aguero goal on repeat. They also seem to like stealing things from other teams.

The Tunnel club thing was stolen from Wolves.
The dressing room layout stolen from Barca.
Their new "blue wall" stand extension idea stolen from Dortmund.
Their "trinity" statue idea stolen from United.

There were 30 people on our tour. When they asked "Does anyone not support City" about 15 hands went up. Some Chinese guy was walking round on the tour carrying a United megastore bag, City "fans" not knowing who Colin Bell was. Nothing about Maine Road, nothing at all pre 2008 other than a token mention of Colin Bell when entering the stand.

They have statues for Aguero, David Silva and Vincent Kompany. They don't have blue ketchup any more (I asked). And they don't take kindly to people (me) answering "Curly Watts" as their favourite City legend.

All in all, pretty underwhelming, but then for a team and ground that's been about about 20 years and were largely irrelevant before then, I don't know what I expected really.
Fully expected the opening line to be "And I took a giant shit in the middle of their dressing room".

Where's the @Big Andy we know and love.
 
I'd give Scholes one.

Keane is such a jerk he doesn't deserve to even be mentioned and Eric lost my respect once he started doing cringeworthy TV adverts.

Dreadful take, if anyone deserves a statue from the past 30 years it’s Eric.
 
I dont know why we still use statues nowadays for anything. Seems unnecessary and often comes off clumsy.
 
I'd give Scholes one.

Keane is such a jerk he doesn't deserve to even be mentioned and Eric lost my respect once he started doing cringeworthy TV adverts.

feck me, you wouldn’t give the catalyst to our greatest ever period of success a statue because he’s done a few tv ads you don’t like?
:lol:

I’d imagine in a fan poll the idea of an Eric statue would absolutely wipe the floor with a Scholesy one.
 
I dont know why we still use statues nowadays for anything. Seems unnecessary and often comes off clumsy.
Exactly what I was thinking reading this thread. We should just clone them and have them present the tours.
 
@giorno explained it well a while back:

You're not. Manchester City FC, founded in 1880 and one of the 2 main club of Manchester, died in 2008. It was replaced by an Abu Dhabi club by the same name who happens to play in Manchester. That Club doesn't care about intercity rivalries, they're irrelevant. It also doesn't care about Manchester City's history, since the purpose of that club is to promote the image and interests of Abu Dhabi, not Manchester. Anything involving the old club is actually counterproductive to their interests

Remember: they only bought the club because it was available and shared part of its name with world famous Manchester United in the first place
 
Curious how United's stadium tour is in comparison.

Do people in general view it as a good experience?

I took one in 2011 and really enjoyed it. The tour guide and the stories were completely uninteresting since I already knew all of that, but to physically go inside the dressing room and roam around was worth the whole trip alone. Also sitting in Ferguson's seat in the dug out was huge :drool:
 
City are a small claub, we all know that. Their lack of history won't stop them from winning the next 3/4 titles. That's all I and other people should care about. Mocking them for this is of no consolation to me.
 
You didn't know the tourist guide was a Chelsea fan. He was just doing it to make ends meet.
 
Many people who support City are just fans of Guardiola. Once Guardiola moves to some other club, they will move as well.

Just like people who support Ronaldo and Messi rather than the clubs they play in.
Truth

You didn't know the tourist guide was a Chelsea fan. He was just doing it to make ends meet.
Ice-cold! :lol:
 
Even the "history" they plaster around their ground is pretty funny - pretty sure it skips from 1965 to 2009!
 
I took one in 2011 and really enjoyed it. The tour guide and the stories were completely uninteresting since I already knew all of that, but to physically go inside the dressing room and roam around was worth the whole trip alone. Also sitting in Ferguson's seat in the dug out was huge :drool:

Yep. I went in 2009 and it was fantastic.
 
City have almost become MK Dons like, it's a seperate entity to the previous club except they retained the name and stadium.

Manchester City est. 2008

This is exactly how I view them. They wear the colours of City and kept the name, but in every other sense they're Abu Dhabi who just found a way to get their own team into the English Premier League.

Just a nation state wearing the skin of the club it gutted as a mask. Just because the original club didn't suffer doesn't mean it's not dead.
 
My brother went on the Arsenal tour with his ex-girlfriend who was an Arsenal supporter. Unfortunately for him everything was super expensive and the tour guide tried to look at his willy in the toilets
 
I live far from Manchester and have only been there a few times - once in the summer when kids were out of school. Hot day, herding kids, flustered - you get the picture. We did the museum, the stadium and the store and something to eat.
Got back to the (rental) car 3 hours later and couldn't find the keys. Checked every pocket 3 times, wife's handbag, kid's pockets - everything! Went to the ticket area to see if someone had handed them in - No!
Wandered back to the car with everyone checking the ground in case I had dropped them somewhere - No!
Walked around the car and there were the keys in the boot lock. I had opened the boot to put something of value there for safety as we set off!!
Needless to say my tired, cranky wife and kids were not impressed with Dad.
Impressed with the honesty of OT visitors.

Oh wow. Glad that ended well for you.

I took one in 2011 and really enjoyed it. The tour guide and the stories were completely uninteresting since I already knew all of that, but to physically go inside the dressing room and roam around was worth the whole trip alone. Also sitting in Ferguson's seat in the dug out was huge :drool:
Yep. I went in 2009 and it was fantastic.

You guys have me hyped. I can't wait to take one!
 
Why did they build statues for Silva, Aguero and Kompany for? I get that they are legends but strange. I mean United don’t build statues for Cantona, Keane and Scholes, do we?
They don't have any others.
 
You guys have me hyped. I can't wait to take one!

The museum is pretty good too! It was really cool to see all the trophies on display. I got lucky as well, got to take a picture posing with a whole bunch of trophies :lol: The Premier League, Community Shield, Carling Cup, Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup and the Cup Winners Cup! Still annoyed they didn't throw in the Champions League and Club World Cup trophies too...
 
Exactly what I was thinking reading this thread. We should just clone them and have them present the tours.
It'll be coming! Select your favourite player from this list of digital avatars to walk you through the tour. Only another £30 each.

City not fully acknowledging their past is a gross insult to the players that won the league and cups before morphing into Abu Dhabi. Mind you they'd need a separate wing for all of the 2nd Division titles.

My son and I went on the OT tour ***cough cough*** years ago before I moved down here and it was very good. The guide was excellent. Banged into Sir Bobby while going back to the car afterwards and he gladly had his pic taken with my son while modestly saying we didn't really want a photo of an old player like him when some of the current ones would look better. A superb end to a great afternoon.
 
City have almost become MK Dons like, it's a seperate entity to the previous club except they retained the name and stadium.

Manchester City est. 2008

I agree completely with the MK Don's comparison. They've completely severed all ties to the past that it's like a completely different entity to the City sides that came before it. Very odd. I'd rather United were shit than end up like them.
 
The museum is pretty good too! It was really cool to see all the trophies on display. I got lucky as well, got to take a picture posing with a whole bunch of trophies :lol: The Premier League, Community Shield, Carling Cup, Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup and the Cup Winners Cup! Still annoyed they didn't throw in the Champions League and Club World Cup trophies too...

The museum was pretty fecking amazing.
 
Many people who support City are just fans of Guardiola. Once Guardiola moves to some other club, they will move as well.

Just like people who support Ronaldo and Messi rather than the clubs they play in.
Maybe outside of England, but I’d say that is true of non European fans of big English/Spanish clubs in general. In Manchester and surrounding areas they do have a hardcore fanbase of maybe 40-50,000.