i reckon Owen Hargreaves is the next keano (or his replacement after he leaves),

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what do you lot think, i reckon we should buy him next year
 
I rate Colin Healy as the next Keano, he just has not been given his chance yet at Celtic but the few times he's played for Ireland he has looked like a veteran. He is going to be a phenomenon. :D
 
I reckon you're nuts <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> .

Sorry mate, I just don't see the same fire in yer belly, bites your legs, get on the end of things in the box, win at any cost, short fuse, combatative streak that made Keano so special from such an early age.

Keano's a one-off. I remember SAF being asked what he see's in players and he used Keano as the example. Fergie's answer was simple - Vision. He reckon's Keano has vision in bucket loads. I think what he meant was a player who plays with his head up. Always looking for an opponent to pass to or receive from . It is a part of Roy's game that is sadly over-looked. He has tremeduous vision, even it is the vision to play a simple ball.

No disrespect to Hargreaves, who is undoubtedly a fine talent in his own right, but he's only a shadow of the player Keano is. I just don't see it, but them I suppose I'm amn't paid to spot up and coming new Keano's ;)
 
Originally posted by Rory 7:
<strong>. Always looking for an opponent to pass to or receive from </strong><hr></blockquote>

I mean't teammate there <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
There goes my argument
 
Originally posted by Rory 7:
<strong>I reckon you're nuts <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> .

Sorry mate, I just don't see the same fire in yer belly, bites your legs, get on the end of things in the box, win at any cost, short fuse, combatative streak that made Keano so special from such an early age. </strong><hr></blockquote>

agreed, Hargreaves is too much of a nice pretty mammys boy,

Keano is a one off.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>I reckon Hargreaves could replace Gerrard for England instead of Butt...</strong><hr></blockquote>


i hope he does, personally. butt can do a job, but there's far more to hargreaves' game. . .he's more similar to gerrard.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>I reckon Hargreaves could replace Gerrard for England instead of Butt...</strong><hr></blockquote>

But I wouldn't like to see him replace Keane for Ireland. We'd be sent home after the second game <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
 
Originally posted by Davo:
<strong>I reckon Hargreaves could replace Gerrard for England instead of Butt...</strong><hr></blockquote>

yeah i think he can replace both gerrard and butt

he offers more going forward than butt and isn't that far behind butts defencive ability and he is far more consistant that gerrard at all levels.
 
Is that true Keano had a row with irish coach ? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
 
Originally posted by ssa:
<strong>Is that true Keano had a row with irish coach ? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Check out this link. He wanted to leave the Irish squad yesterday.......

<a href="http://www.football365.com/All_News/Premiership_News/story_30902.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.football365.com/All_News/Premiership_News/story_30902.shtml</a>
 
Originally posted by hassan:
<strong>think of how he will be when he gets to keano's present age!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Think of how Keano was at his age <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Apart from rushing around and making a nuisance of himself for the full 90 mins, what exactly does Hargreaves do for a team ?

As for being touted as Keane's eventual replacement that's patently ridiculous on current evidence.
 
there will never be another Keano.
Hargreaves is a good box to box player though. Can also play either flank. Arsenal are sniffing around him, i wouldnt mind Fergie adding him to our squad.
 
Originally posted by Rory 7:
<strong>Even he was a target of our I couldn't see Bayern letting him go to Old Trafford.
It ain't gonna happen.</strong><hr></blockquote>

maybe not to OT but i dont see him staying in Germany much longer. He WANTS to play in the premiership. Hes been quoted as saying that, he also said that he likes joining up with the England team so that he can finally speak English all the time. He doesnt like having to speak German all the time.
He'll be leaving Bayern sooner or later. It just depends on how much Bayern want for him.
 
the reason i started this post was to see if anyone comes even as half as close to keano, because in a few years time he will be replaced, due to his age.

so we need the best there is at that time, aspart from gerrard, only hargreaves comes to mind.

my criteria would be he would preferably be british/irish and have the burning am,bition to continue and make manchester united a dominant force, and best club in the world.

but he has to be the best, but if a another viera or someone like him comes along then i would not mind him, i just wanted to get an idea of who would replace keano cus he will need replacing in about 4 years time.
 
Originally posted by gulli_G:
<strong>the reason i started this post was to see if anyone comes even as half as close to keano, because in a few years time he will be replaced, due to his age.

so we need the best there is at that time, aspart from gerrard, only hargreaves comes to mind.

my criteria would be he would preferably be british/irish and have the burning am,bition to continue and make manchester united a dominant force, and best club in the world.

but he has to be the best, but if a another viera or someone like him comes along then i would not mind him, i just wanted to get an idea of who would replace keano cus he will need replacing in about 4 years time.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well then you can rule out Hargreaves if Keano's replacement criteria is that said replacement must be irish/british - Hargreaves is a Canadian.
 
Originally posted by Mancunian Candidate:
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Well then you can rule out Hargreaves if Keano's replacement criteria is that said replacement must be irish/british - Hargreaves is a Canadian.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If Hargreaves qualifies to play for England, I think you say he is British.
 
I think Owen Hargreaves in Keano`s position would be like sending a kiddy with a plastic rifle to Afganistan. Don`t even think about it!

Am I alone? I am fed up with hearing about who we should buy - how about bloody talking about our youngsters and who we should be developing.

This club has the resources to find and develop the best youngsters in Britain but what is happening? Bring back the youth policy - is it coincidence we won the League again and again with our developed youngsters - Becks, Giggsy, Scholesy, etc - leading the way?
 
I rated Owen Hargreaves highly. You can forget all olders players now because currently Gerrard and him (both below 22) are already the best DM of England.

But back to the original questions in the topic: Firstly there is only one Keano, and I don't see Hargreaves process the burning fighting spirit, motivation and team influence as Keano. Secondly, about the replacement issue, I think that depends on how much will he progress in these few years and what is the price tag will Bayen placed on him.
 
Think on this: Keano could have played his last game of football! :(
It sounds like a mental breakdown caused by self inflicted pressure. If so he is going to have to take an extended holiday.
He may never come back.
SAF to the rescue though! :(
 
Originally posted by Red Pat:
<strong>Think on this: Keano could have played his last game of football! :(
It sounds like a mental breakdown caused by self inflicted pressure. If so he is going to have to take an extended holiday.
He may never come back.
SAF to the rescue though! :( </strong><hr></blockquote>

Christ. I hadn't thought about it like that. Now I'm really depressed. :(
 
There will never be another Roy Keane!!!!1 <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
What year did SAF buy Keane?Also how many seasons did Robbo have left at MUFC after Keane arrived?

I think we need to replace Keano now.I think Owen Hargreaves would be a step in the right direction.

I can remember everyone saying they is only one Bryan Robson!!!

Then Keane came along.

There is always someone coming along.

The King is dead,long live the King!!
 
Originally posted by fortyseven:
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If Hargreaves qualifies to play for England, I think you say he is British.</strong><hr></blockquote>

um, no, his dad's british, and Owen is from Canada.
 
Originally posted by Mancunian Candidate:
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um, no, his dad's british, and Owen is from Canada.</strong><hr></blockquote>

... with a british passport. who are you, norman tebbit?
 
Originally posted by mancred:
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... with a british passport. who are you, norman tebbit?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, he probably shouldn't be in the squad, he's not really English, I don't care how good he is. In truth, I'm somewhat embarrassed that we have to resort to having a Canadian in the team. What next, a Scot?
 
Owen H is a good tackler, controls his zone well, can play left or right of midfield and is a good long ball passer. What I like is he seems to learn in every match and has a useful burst of speed.

NO He is no Roy Keane, doesnt show the same fire yet BUT he is one to look out for.

PITY he is an arsenal supporter....but Teddy played fantastic for us and he is true blue Hotspur.
 
Originally posted by Mancunian Candidate:
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Well, he probably shouldn't be in the squad, he's not really English, I don't care how good he is. In truth, I'm somewhat embarrassed that we have to resort to having a Canadian in the team. What next, a Scot?</strong><hr></blockquote>

And Zidane is not a real French, so France should not let him represent their national team. It's now 21st century yet some people's brain seems still remain in Stone Age.
 
Originally posted by Due South:
<strong>Owen H is a good tackler, controls his zone well, can play left or right of midfield and is a good long ball passer. What I like is he seems to learn in every match and has a useful burst of speed.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

And he can also play as full backs. He doesn't get the tackling of Keano or do fantasy things such as Joe Cole, but he is exceptionally adaptive and seems never afraid to play at any level. Will become (or already is) the best utility player for England.
 
I definitely agree with buying Hargreaves, I think he's an amazing prospect - good tackler, agressive, quick, good distribution and fights for his team.

Could well be the man to replace keano whenever he decides to call it a day. Plus Becks is his hero so he might swing it our way if a bidding war ensues!!
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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And Zidane is not a real French, so France should not let him represent their national team. It's now 21st century yet some people's brain seems still remain in Stone Age.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Zidane was born in Marseille and has played for French clubs. I know he did not spend his whole life in France but he his French, no doubt. However Hargreaves is Canadian. No one even thought about him being English until the National side took interest in him. We aren't talking about the 21st Century or any sort of bull shit like that. What we are talking about is National pride. Honestly I don't have that much of it. I'm American but could care less really because I didn't grow up there. But I think that people who play for the National side should have some pride in where they are from. I mean Hargreaves was born in Calgary and has never, to my knowledge, played with a British club. Has he ever even lived there? All I know is that when Keane (was) playing with Ireland he could think of Cork and back home and had a reason to win. Maradona could think of the streets he grew up and where he came from. Hargreaves? Well he can ponder whether he picked the right national team because he had a choice of four countries (Canada, Wales, England and Germany.)
 
Originally posted by uranushk1:
<strong>

And Zidane is not a real French, so France should not let him represent their national team. It's now 21st century yet some people's brain seems still remain in Stone Age.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If I'm in the stone age because I think players should actually play for the country that they were born and raised in, then why even have a world cup in the first place?

Based on your reasoning, the World Cup should've ended with the 20th century then. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Sol Campbell to play for England because he was born and raised in England, it's as simple as that. I'm not sure where his ma is from, but let's say she is Jamaican, hypothetically. He shouldn't be allowed to play for Jamaica he should play for England because he's English.

Someone please explain to me why my brain is stuck in another century according to this lad? The World Cup is about countries competing against countries. Hargreaves has never lived in England, nor was he born in England. It would kind of defeat the purpose of the World cup if players were allowed to always cross borders and nationalities as they see fit. Hargreaves should play for his country.
 
fergie seems to rate hargreaves,, judging by his recent commenbts, see rednews.co.uk for his quote.