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Nani Nana

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I have browsed through the "ask me anything" thread but I just couldn't understand a word. Thing is, the cricket gibberish is far too complicated for me as I really have no notion of the game whatsoever. In fact I have never seen a cricket game in my whole life.



Therefore, could anyone explain to me, in simple english, how it loosely works ? Like the counting system (goals, duration time..), the player characteristics (number, position?).. not the rules nor the slang.

Really a mere sample that would enable me to watch a cricket game and actually know what is going on !

I'd be thankful to anyone allowing me to make this leap forward into Britishness.
 
I'll give it a go.

— Each team consists of 11 players (like football). And like football, there are different roles.

This is the cricket pitch, which is the central area of the entire field, where the batting and bowling takes place:

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This is the entire cricket field (The light coloured rectangle in the middle is the cricket pitch (above):

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This is where the batsmen and bowler stand:

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Now for some basics:

- Before each game, the two teams toss a coin to decide who will go in to bat, first, and who will bowl.

- Each side has a "batting order", from one to eleven. Generally, the better batsmen will be in the first four or five positions (top order), and the specialist bowlers, who are usually not as good at batting, will be in positions 8/9/10/11 (lower order).

- When the game starts, the batting side sends out their first two batsmen (as in above picture), known as the "openers".

- The bowling side uses one bowler at a time, and the rest of the team field (i.e. attempt to stop/catch the ball, and prevent it from going to the boundary).

- The wicket keeper is also a specialist position, and there is one per side. Their job is to prevent the ball from flying past the batsmen and going on to hit the boundary (edge of the pitch) behind them (I'll explain more later). They are essentially there to stop the ball if the batsman doesn't hit it.

Bowling:


- As you can see from the video, each bowler bowls 6 consecutive balls (an over) from one end, and then another bowler does the same from the other end. So, for example, bowler (1) bowls an over (6 balls), from one end —>. Bowler (2) then bowls an over (6 balls) from the opposite end <—. They then repeat that until the captain (who makes most of the on-field decisions) decides that he would like to change either one or both.

Usually there are between four or five bowlers in a team, and each bowler will usually bowl for several overs (6 balls per over) before they are changed, and another bowler takes their place. This provides variety, as no two bowlers are the same, and if one of your bowlers fails to take a wicket, or if the batsman is scoring too many runs, you can change bowlers.

- To score what are known as runs, the batsman either has to hit the ball to the boundary (the edge of the field in any direction), in which case, if the ball has touched the ground after it left the bat, they will be awarded four runs, or if it has been hit over the boundary without touching the ground, they will be awarded six runs. So, hits boundary having touched the ground after leaving bat = 4 runs. Hits boundary having remained in the air and not touching the ground after leaving the bat = 6 runs.

Runs can also be scored by hitting the ball in to an area of the field, and then running to the other end of the cricket pitch (the rectangle above) and back as many times as you can before the fielding side has managed to collect the ball and throw it back to either end (where either a fielder or the wicket keeper should be waiting). If one of the batsman is still running between the wickets when the ball arrives at the end that he is running toward, and the "bails" (see below) are removed, either by direct throw, or a fielder knocking them off with the ball in their hand, then he has been "run out".

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The "bails" are the pieces of wood that rest on the "stumps" (the long wooden poles in the ground).

Both batsman have to run "between the wickets" (so the batsman that has hit the ball runs from his end to the other, while the other (who just stands there while the other batsman faces the bowler) runs from the opposite end to the end where the batsman that has just hit the ball) for a run to be scored. In other words, the two batsman have to cross over. They can do this as many times as they like, while making sure that they aren't "run out".

- The bowling (and fielding) sides objective is to either hit the stumps when they bowl a ball (which is difficult), or to trick the batsman in to hitting the ball in the air, where it can be caught by anyone on the bowling and fielding side (the bowler, wicketkeeper, or fielders). That is what is known as being out, and the batsman has to leave the field, and the next batsman then comes in.

- As there are 11 players, and two batsman are at the crease (as in third picture) at any one time, each team has 10 wickets in hand (i.e. 10 players that the bowlers and fielders have to get out). This is because there will always be one person left at the crease when the last batsman is out, and they are left without a partner (stranded).

- At that point, the innings (11 batsman, 10 of which are out) is over, and the roles are reversed.

So, let's use the game between England and Australia to help you to further understand:

England were the first team to bat, Australia to bowl. In a test match (5 day game) both sides get to bat and bowl twice. The score from the two innings are then added together, and the team with the most runs wins. There is more to it than that, but I will explain it at the end.

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This is England's 1st innings "score card". So, let's unpack it:

- Strauss and Cook were the "openers" — the first two players to bat.

- Strauss scored 161 runs (which is a massive score, as you can see compared to the rest) from 268 balls (that is how many balls were bowled at him). As you can see, he scored 22 fours, which means that he hit the ball to the boundary (any edge of the entire field) on 22 occasions, each time hitting the ground before it made it to the boundary. Therefore, 22 x 4 = 88 runs. So, Strauss scored 88 runs out of his total of 161 in "fours". He didn't hit any "sixes" (ball hits boundary without touching ground — in other words, always in the air).

- Hilfenhaus was the Australian bowler that eventually got him out. As you can see from the scorecard, it simply says "b Hifenhaus" (b = bowled). That means that Hilenhaus directly struck Strauss's stumps with the ball, as you see in the video.

c = caught. So, the bowler bowled the ball, the player hit it into the air, and the player with the 'c' next to their name caught the ball.

lbw = Leg Before Wicket. This is complicated, but it essentially means that the bowler bowled the ball, and the batsman either missed it, or didn't have time to get his bat down to where the ball is, and the ball hit him on the pads (which protect his legs), and it looks as though the ball would have gone on to hit the stumps. The reason for this rule is that, without it, a player could simply allow the ball to hit his pads all of the time, instead of going on to hit the stumps. It's far more complicated than that, as the ball has to land in a certain area, but I'll leave it there. (by the way, as I've already said, the stumps are the wooden poles in the ground, the bails are the pieces of wood that rest on the stumps, and the wicket is the two together. In effect, when I say stumps, it is the same as wicket)

After Cook was out for 95, Bopara came in next, and so on, in the order that is listed.

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Now, as you can see, England scored 425 in their 1st innings and 311 in their 2nd innings. That adds up to a total of 736 runs.

Australia scored 215 in their 1st innings and 406 in their 2nd innings, which adds up to a total of 621 runs.

So, that is why England won the match. However, if Australia had managed to keep at least one wicket in tact (i.e. 2 players at the crease) the match would have been drawn. The reason for that is that the 5 days would have been up, and it is necessary for at least one side (the winning side) to bowl the opposition out twice (1st and 2nd innings).

I really don't want to confuse you further, but the reason that it says that England "declared" in their 2nd innings at 311 for 6 (number of wickets lost) is because Australia had only scored 215 in their 1st innings, and England had already scored 736 (1st and 2nd), which meant that Australia needed 522 to win the match. If England had waited until they were all out in the second innings, it would have wasted valuable time in which to bowl Australia out for a second time. England clearly felt that a 521 lead (522 to win, remember) was enough, so you are allowed to "declare", meaning that you end your own innings prematurely, and force the opposition back in to bat, needing to either reach the 522 run total to win, or to not lose all 10 wickets to snatch a draw.

I'll gladly take any questions. I've done my best in the time available, so I can only apologize if it still reads like Swahili.
 
wikipedia:

When the ball becomes very old—around 40 or more overs old, it can begin to swing towards the polished side rather than the rough side. This is known as reverse swing (Andrew Flintoff and Simon Jones have been known to produce reverse swing in balls as young as 15 overs old[3]). Zaheer Khan and Ishant Sharma of India also managed to get the reverse swing as early as just 8 overs[4].Umar Gul of Pakistan also managed to get the reverse swing as early as just 12 overs[5]. In essence, both sides have turbulent flow, but here the seam causes the airflow to separate earlier on one side. The result is always a swing to the side with the later separation, so the swing is away from the seam.
 
That's why you see players trying to shine one side of the ball, basically.
 
^ post no 2. Tell you what Joga, you're not the most prolific of posters, but they're worth waiting for!
 
Nani Nana said:
I have browsed through ......could anyone explain to me, in simple english, how it loosely works ?
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No, unfortunately there is no simple way to explain this.

You can glean this though - we British thought we'd come up with a game so complex

a/ that only we could understand
b/ that therefore only we could play
c/ and therefore nobody could beat us at

as ever we ended up being desperately wrong on all three :D
 
:lol:



anyway thank you very much Joga Bonito. great post.
 
I've finally absorbed JB's post. Great work mate.



Questions though




- how often do draws happen ? as often as in football ?

- what's the use of the infield ? if the batsman sends the ball wide and that it touches the ground within the infield or in the outfield, do both count as 4 runs ?


- are there any other possibilities of dismissing a batsman than shattering his wicket ?


- is there a precise area where the ball must hit the ground when bowled toward the batsman ?
 
Oh, and a last one, should I be as distraught by Freddie Flintoff's decision to quit cricket as when Zidane called it a day after the 2006 WC ?
 
No, reserve that for when Sachin Tendulkar retires.
 
Nani Nana said:
I've finally absorbed JB's post. Great work mate.

Questions though

- how often do draws happen ? as often as in football ? (1)

- what's the use of the infield ? if the batsman sends the ball wide and that it touches the ground within the infield or in the outfield, do both count as 4 runs ? (2)
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(1) This depends on the pitch, quite often. The weather conditions in a country often has a role in the type of pitch (the central rectangular area) that the groundsman can produce. Each country produces different pitches, and often pitches within the same country are different, as well. How long the pitch has been there, and what type of soils and materials are used can all affect the pitch type.

Some pitches are really dry and flat. This often means that bowler gets little "help" from the pitch, which will alternatively make it easier for the batsman. In that case, the two teams might score 500-600 runs in their first innings, and the time taken to do that means that a draw is more likely.

One of the things that I personally like about English pitches (most of them, at least) is that they are often quite balanced between being good to bat on, and helping the bowler to get players out. In India and Pakistan, for instance, they cannot do much about the fact that their pitches are often quite slow and dry, due to the weather conditions. In the summer in England there is often quite a lot of sun, but also rain, and this helps to make a pitch that is quite bouncy and lively, which is good for the batsman, as the ball will "come on to the bat" quite well (meaning that they can hit the ball quite easily, and there is little deviation in how it arrives), as well as the bowlers, meaning that it gives them more options.

If a pitch is really dry and flat, it often doesn't matter how a fast bowler bowls, the ball will simply continue to arrive at the batsman at a manageable pace, which doesn't provide too many problems to him. When that happens, bowlers have to become more clever in how they bowl. So, every now and then, the bowler might bowl what is known as a "slower ball", which means that the bowler bowls a ball that is markedly slower than the others that he has bowled. This entices the batsman in to playing a "false shot", because he is used to the ball arriving at a certain pace, in a certain amount of time, and this one time it doesn't do that, and so he has already begun to swing his bat. He will then either have to adjust quickly, or the ball may hit a part of the bat that will send it up in to the air to be caught, or if he misses it completely, it might hit his stumps.

As you saw in the video, there are two types of bowler — medium/fast, and spin bowlers. Spin bowlers often look for the "rough" marks (in front of, or either side of the batsman), which develop due to the pitch beginning to break up a little due to either wear and tear (the sun beating down on it, and then players running on it in spiked shoes), or the bowlers footmarks. As the fast bowlers run up to the crease to bowl, they come down with a lot of force to generate pace. This create "footmarks" in the pitch, which can help the ball to deviate in funny directions, if the spin bowler can land his ball in that area. That obviously makes it very difficult for a batsman to know where the ball is likely to go.

So, it is often the conditions, as well as the quality of the two sides, that determines whether there will be a draw, or not. In England, for example, we have a lot of rain, and play has to stop once it becomes more than just light drizzle. That time is generally lost, although they do try to add some overs at the end of each day. There is also the problem of light, as well. Clearly, if you are being bowled at at 90 mph (144 km/h), it can be dangerous to continue in low light level conditions, so the day often ends early because of that.

All of these factors can lead to a draw, and in a 5 test series (best of 5 test matches) one or two usually end in a draw.

(2) The infield is really there for the fielding side, so that they know where to place fielders. Each batsman has weaknesses, and the bowling team will look at videos to see if there is a particular way in which a batsman has been getting out, recently. This helps them to know, firstly, where and how to bowl at him, and secondly, where to place fielders in anticipation of him hitting the ball to that area.

So, for example, if you watch a video and see that a particular batsman likes to score his runs mainly "straight down the ground" (i.e. back towards the bowler), you can bowl slightly wider at him, so that he isn't able to hit it there, which will make it more difficult. Or, if you see that a player often hits the ball in the air to a particular part of the field, from a particular type of ball bowled, you can place a fielder there, hoping that he will make the same mistake.

Most catches happen within the infield, as the ball "spoons" off the bat. The batsman often isn't in total control at that point, but if you place most of your fielders in the "outfield", there won't be enough pace on the shot for it to "carry" (in the air). Once it has hit the ground, a catch is no longer possible, so while teams place fielders depending on the game situation, on average, two or three players will protect the boundary, while others will be placed in the "infield", hoping to make a catch.

Only a ball that hits the boundary in the outfield (the outer edge of the entire cricket ground) is classed as a four.

Perhaps at this point I should talk about what are known as "slip fielders":

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Slip fielders are the people that you can see in a line next to the wicketkeeper (who is directly behind the batsman, with the orange gloves on). The line of fielders is known as the "slip cordon". Their job is stand, as they are in the picture, waiting for a ball to take the edge of the bat and fly back towards them, so that they can take a catch. The batsman's job is to attempt to connect with the ball in the middle of the bat, so that he is in full control of his shot. When you are being bowled at at 90 mph, that is not always possible, and quite often the ball will connect with the edge of the bat instead.

Placing fielders is usually determined by the state of the game. If a batsman is scoring runs easily — particularly boundaries (fours and sixes) — and doesn't look like making a mistake, the fielding side will often become defensive and place more men on the boundary (outer), so as to prevent fours and sixes being scored. Depending on the size of the pitch, if the batsman strikes the ball to a fielder on the boundary, it will only be possible to make one run before the ball is thrown back. Without the fielder in that position, four runs would be scored as it reaches the boundary.

If the fielding side believes that it has a chance of taking a wicket — often if the conditions make batting difficult, and almost always when a new batsman comes to the crease — the fielding side will place more men closer to the pitch (in the infield), and also in the slip cordon, leaving fewer fielders on the outer boundary. This often has the effect of making the batsman more nervous, as he knows that any mistakes will be punished. When there are lots of fielders close to the pitch a team is usually attacking, in anticipation of taking a wicket.
 
Nani Nana said:
- are there any other possibilities of dismissing a batsman than shattering his wicket ? (3)

- is there a precise area where the ball must hit the ground when bowled toward the batsman ?(4)
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(3) The ways to dismiss a batsman are:

(i) Shattering the wicket, as you've said.

(ii) Catching the ball before it touches the ground, anywhere on the field of play (if it has gone over the boundary rope for six runs, catching it doesn't count, and six runs are given).

(iii) Running a player out (a "run out") — so, if the batsmen are attempting to run between the wicket, having hit the ball to an area of the ground (but not having reached the boundary), and the fielder picks it up and throws it back to either end. On the picture above (and on the picture of the pitch in my first post), you should be able to see the white line in front of the wicket. That is called the "crease", and it is where the batsman stands when facing the bowler, as well as where the bowler must end his run up before he releases the ball. It is also where the batsmen (both of them) have to be when the ball is thrown back.

You are out if you haven't touched you bat down in that area, after running from one end to the other, and either the ball that is thrown back crashes directly in to the stumps (removing the bails), or if a fielder is there and knocks the bails off with the ball in his hand. It doesn't matter whether you are the one who hit the ball, or not. You can get either batsmen out, if he is the one running to the end where the bails are knocked off.

(iv) You can also dismiss a batsman with LBW (leg Before Wicket). As I explained in the first post, that is when the ball is bowled and it hits a batsman's pads protecting his legs, and in the umpires judgment it looks as though it would have gone on to hit the wicket. If this rule wasn't in place, a batsman could simply use his legs to protect the wicket, which wouldn't help to produce a very interesting game.

(4) Not where it hits the ground — as long as it's on the pitch, of course — but there are rules about where it must arrive at the batsman. A wide is given, which results in one run being added to the total, and the bowler having to bowl the ball again, if it arrives too far from where the batsman can reasonably be expected to hit the ball. There are other rules as well, depending on the type of game being played (5 day test match, one day (50 overs each), or 20/20 (20 overs each)).

A "bouncer" is a ball that connects roughly halfway down the pitch at pace, which then rears up towards the batsman's chest/head. Most of the time, the batsman is able to duck out of the way, but sometimes it can hit them on the helmet, or in the throat. This is what is known as "roughing up the batsman", and it can be a useful tactic. Some batsmen are good at avoiding bouncers, but others fend at the ball with there bat (usually closing there eyes and hoping for the best) and the ball just pops up in to air, often leaving an easy catch.

Where the ball connects with the pitch is known as the "length". A "short" ball is classed as anything that connects between 8m from the stumps, and halfway down the pitch. A "good" length is anything that connects between 6-8m from the stumps. And a "full" length ball is anything that connects with the pitch between 2-6m from the stumps.

Bowlers, in certain circumstances, bowl directly at the stumps, often without connecting with the ground first. That is what is known as a "yorker". It generally works either when player is attempting to score runs quickly, and so, is prepared to swing their bat without protecting the wicket, or at the poor batsmen (usually the bowlers), because they struggle to stop them.
 
feck me sideways. I've not read your last two replies thoroughly, but you've put some effort in, haven't you?

Good man.
 
joga bonito is absolutely magnificent


I have found my "poster of the year 2009" already


thanks, I'm now really looking forward to watch my first cricket game!
 
datura said:
You can also be out if you fall on your own stumps, or handle the ball. I think I remember Gooch was out handling the ball once in a test match.
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I guess it doesn't happen very often.
 
You missed out some of the more obscure methods of dismissal - timed out and handling the ball, for example.

I think there have been something like 5 dismissals in Test history (bearing in mind that there have been literally tens of thousands of wickets taken in international Test cricket) through handling the ball. And I don't think anyone has ever been timed out in Test cricket.

There are 10 methods of dismissal altogether, 10 brownie points for the first person to get all 10 :D
 
samabachan said:
You missed out some of the more obscure methods of dismissal - timed out and handling the ball, for example.

I think there have been something like 5 dismissals in Test history (bearing in mind that there have been literally tens of thousands of wickets taken in international Test cricket) through handling the ball. And I don't think anyone has ever been timed out in Test cricket.

There are 10 methods of dismissal altogether, 10 brownie points for the first person to get all 10 :D
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I remember watching one of them live on TV too, Gatting in the Ashes, bloody hell must be about 15 years ago now
 
Joga_Bonito said:
I'll give it a go......
.........So, that is why England won the match. However, if Australia had managed to keep at least one wicket in tact (i.e. 2 players at the crease) the match would have been drawn. The reason for that is that the 5 days would have been up, and it is necessary for at least one side (the winning side) to bowl the opposition out twice (1st and 2nd innings).

I really don't want to confuse you further, but the reason that it says that England "declared" in their 2nd innings at 311 for 6 (number of wickets lost) is because Australia had only scored 215 in their 1st innings, and England had already scored 736 (1st and 2nd), which meant that Australia needed 522 to win the match. If England had waited until they were all out in the second innings, it would have wasted valuable time in which to bowl Australia out for a second time. England clearly felt that a 521 lead (522 to win, remember) was enough, so you are allowed to "declare", meaning that you end your own innings prematurely, and force the opposition back in to bat, needing to either reach the 522 run total to win, or to not lose all 10 wickets to snatch a draw.

I'll gladly take any questions. I've done my best in the time available, so I can only apologize if it still reads like Swahili.
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Got to say bloody well done mate - that's a great effort

So just for my Austrian friends can you translate that into German please ?:mad:

Its fascinating though that this last couple of paragraphs about exactly how one side beat another and the sequence of scores etc etc shows how difficult cricket can be to understand for a 'newbie'

I could be wrong but I'd be interested to know if anybody really got into cricket with the same passion and inner knowledge as us young english, antipodeans, west indies and sub continentals, who had learned about it as an adult rather than like most of us on here who grew up playing and watching it

Anybody done that?
 
Brad said:
Caught
Bowled
Stumped
LBW
Run out
Handled
Timed out
Double hit
Hit wicket
Obstruction
Retired out

That's 11 :angel:
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Is that a legitimate way to be out though Brad? Always thought "retired hurt" or "retired ill" is, in effect, not out (ie the completed innings would only have nine dismissals rather than the usual ten).
 
That's actually really, really helped me understand Cricket more. Brilliant posts Joga, many thanks.
 
Northstand said:
Is that a legitimate way to be out though Brad? Always thought "retired hurt" or "retired ill" is, in effect, not out (ie the completed innings would only have nine dismissals rather than the usual ten).
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Technically it is a form of dismissal, but if you have retired out I think you can choose to come back in at any stage if you so wish.
 
I have a few questions

1. When a player gets injured how come the (sub) or what ever he is called is a nobody. I've seen a text match and players get injured and some unknown comes in who I have never heard of.

2. A gully where is that

3. How you invoke the follow on?
 
Ed Joyce got out in a bizarre way a few weeks ago when playing a sweep shot. Jonathan Trott at short leg turned away to take evasive action and as he did so, the ball flew into his pocket.

That's a very obscure way of being out - though technically it counts as a catch.
 
Brad said:
Not retired hurt. Simply retired. And you can't come back in

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63947.html

Attapattu and Jayawardene
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From Wiki

In cricket, a batsman retires out if he retires without the umpire's permission, and does not have the permission of the opposing captain to resume his innings. This occasionally happens in friendly or practice matches, for instance English county sides versus University Centres of Cricketing Excellence. Although it is not considered to be a dismissal in the context of a cricket match, it is considered a dismissal for the purposes of calculating a batting average.

Only two batsmen have retired out in Test match cricket. Both instances occurred in the same match, where the Sri Lankan batsmen Marvan Atapattu and Mahela Jayawardene both retired out. Each of these two batsmen had already scored more runs than the entire Bangladeshi team in the previous innings, and it is arguable that they deliberately gave batting time to newer teammates.[1]
 
I'm sure I remember England players doing it against other sides on test tour warm up games before

Perhaps I have to bow to the wisdom of wiki here... but the players are still out, and they're not allowed to return to the batting crease thereafter. Obviously different if it's retired hurt with the umpires consent
 
We're entering complex situations there.
 
bazalini said:
I have a few questions

1. When a player gets injured how come the (sub) or what ever he is called is a nobody. I've seen a text match and players get injured and some unknown comes in who I have never heard of.

2. A gully where is that

3. How you invoke the follow on?
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1. That doesn't happen too often, but when it does it's usually in a match that isn't as important or crucial. It may also happen in tests when the 12th man (bench) is a seasoned pro. It may be 'below his standards' to field for a relatively newer person.

Then again, mostly its because the 12th man is lazy.

2. Do you know where the slips are? Slips are behind the batsman on the off side, next to the wicket keeper.

Do you know where point is? Point is at the edge of the first (30 yard) circle 'square' on the off side, ie, in the direction the batsman's chest is facing.

Gully is somewhere in between slips and point. He is usually present in test matches, where short pitched deliveries may hit the 'shoulder' of the bat and spoon up in the air to gully.

3. A follow on can only be invoked by Team A if all the following are true:
a) It is a test match
b) Team A is batting first
c) In Team B's first innings, they score at least 200 runs less than Team A scored in their first innings.

In such a case, Team A's captain can choose to invoke the followon by informing the umpires of his decision. This will send Team B in to bat again. It helps Team A capture a strangehold on the match, which may otherwise peter out to a draw.

The reason England didn't enforce it last week is mainly that batting on the 5th day is always the toughest, so England could end up losing if they bowled poorly and allowed Australia to gain a lead of 300 runs.
 
Thanks arjwiz


I think I'd need to see a diagram for all those positions you mentioned in relation to Gully. Why is the 5th day always harder then for the follow-on?

Also what about Long Off
 
vijay said:
cheers baz...

https://www.redcafe.net/f59/cricket...scotland-wales-northern-south-ireland-258140/
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I have no problem with Cricket in Ireland. We seem to have a good team and it something I am watching with interest.

I sponsor a team in Belfast. Well I gave them a few quid. All Guys from India who work in Citigroup. Good honest lads and can take a slagging which is good enough for me.

I am going out sometime to play with them, as I always fancied myself at bowling and batting. Dying to see how hard or difficult it is. The video above has helped me with some spin bowling.
 
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