Hypothetical - Would you sell Kobbie Mainoo for £100m?

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Right now, there's not a single player in the squad that I wouldn't sell for 100m.
 
themanguydude said:
Under normal circumstances I think he should and I don't think I've said otherwise, but a £100m offer is anything but normal. It's a price that I think even we wouldn't pay for him, had he not been one of our players.




Januzaj was also undoutedly talented and inconsistent in his first few seasons as well. He was "inconsistent" until his inconsistency became a consistent thing




It doesn't necessary have to be to a rival




I have faith that he would, but it's also the same faith for a lot of other youngsters that have never made it over the years. I guess the most recent one is Rashford.

At some point, you need to be able to stop being hopeful and be calculative if you're in a position to make these kind of decisions and £100m is just way too good to turn down.

If there's one thing this club has done incredibly badly over the years, it's hoarding youth players for far too long.
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Januzaj wasn't the same profile as a young Giggs or Ronaldo

your post just comes across as argumentative over hypotheticals.

we've got to shift players like Casemiro, Ericksen in midfield, a series of misfits from Maguire, Lindelof to Zirkee.

not counting players on huge wages like Rashford who have had one great season and 4 poor in the last 5 years

but yes let's sell Mainoo

stop sniffing solvents
 
Nope. Too soon to tell what his ceiling will be. If he’s stays a starter in a good side, that’s 10 years we get out of him. We would probably buy another Zirkzee or Antony, and we don’t really need the money in any event.
 
tentan said:
How about 50 mil?
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Good question. Probably deserves it's own thread.
The answer is, not that many.
Definite Keeps: Bruno, Yoro, Mainoo, Amad and Ugarte. These are players that I believe in their talent, think you'll spen they have a role in the new system.

Borderline: Hojlund and Garnacho. Hojlund's technique and generally centre forward play is inconsistent. Will he ever put it together? Maybe, but get 50mill for him right now to put towards for example Gyokeres for 70 mill, I think you have to do that deal.
Garnacho in a couple of years will be an 80 mill player. Problem is, he not a good fit for this team system as a 10.

That rest of them can go. With good scouting, we can upgrade them for that money.

What about you?
 
Such a disingenuous thread. The answer is no, obviously, otherwise let’s just pack in the academy altogether.
 
Kag said:
Such a disingenuous thread. The answer is no, obviously, otherwise let’s just pack in the academy altogether.
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Its not obvious given the replies, and your reasoning seems a bit weird. Cashing in one player for big money doesn't make us a club that may as well not bother with the academy.
 
VP89 said:
Its not obvious given the replies, and your reasoning seems a bit weird. Cashing in one player for big money doesn't make us a club that may as well not bother with the academy.
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Those replies are foolish.

Mainoo is one of the best teenagers in world football. We’re not selling him.
 
buckooo1978 said:
Januzaj wasn't the same profile as a young Giggs or Ronaldo

your post just comes across as argumentative over hypotheticals.

we've got to shift players like Casemiro, Ericksen in midfield, a series of misfits from Maguire, Lindelof to Zirkee.

not counting players on huge wages like Rashford who have had one great season and 4 poor in the last 5 years

but yes let's sell Mainoo

stop sniffing solvents
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If I'm being completely honest, neither is Mainoo in my opinion. The only player that came through our ranks that I felt was truly in that caliber is at Marseille now.

The crux of the argument here is hypothetical in nature. It basically boils down to "Do you think Mainoo will eventually turn into a £100m or more player in the future?".
The only logical reasoning for those that are saying no is because they think he would (which I assume is your stance? That there is no logical reason why should beselling a future >£100m asset for just £100m now).
And all I'm saying is, I don't think he will. Most players won't reach that height.

Shifting those player have no bearing on the decision to sell Mainoo for £100m. I do not see any relevance on why this decision would hinge on the sales(or non sales) of those players.
 
Daydreamer said:
United a obviously a huge club, arguably the biggest. But the actual team itself is middling. It's literally mid-table. You say it has bigger ambitions than most of the clubs you've mentioned, but that can only be referring to the long term. Only United's short term ambitions (and position) are relevant to Mainoo right now and those are playing in second-tier European competition and finishing in the top four. All of the other players you've mention have to contend with pressure of challenging for titles and competing in the highest level club competition on the planet. They are simply faced with (and have risen to the required levels of) higher demands than Mainoo has. That makes them more valuable as they have proven their ability to consistently contribute at the highest level.


A few United fans had mentioned that he may not be a great fit for Amorim's system. I'm happy to defer to your knowledge if that's actually incorrect.


I keep repeating what I'm trying to say. It's cool disagree, but it's a bit disingenuous to construct straw men. I've never said I didn't rate him. In fact, I explicitly said...



That's exactly what I'm saying, yes. Arsenal were a far easier team to break into at the time. As I've also mentioned, a player can have value to their club that far exceeds their market value. So would I have wanted us to sell Saka for a huge sum before that? No. But if some of our fans wanted to, I wouldn't have accused them of talking nonsense. Before 22/23, selling for Saka for £100m would have been a perfectly rational decision.


Firstly, that's not what I said. Secondly, even had I said that... it would pretty much be true. We bought Saliba for £28m as opposed to £100m... largely because he wasn't a starter for a top club. We paid a huge sum for Rice in his mid twenties with 50+ England caps to his name. If he was 19 years old and had no track record outside of his time at West Ham we wouldn't have paid anything like £105m.

Mainoo certainly has potential. But can you name a single example where a club has offered anything approaching £100m for a teenager who has yet to to even be part of a campaign targeting the biggest club trophies?

(I thought I'd put that in bold because you keep saying you don't get what my point is. That's my point. Answer the bolded question.)
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You are putting way too much emphasis on the player's CV and how his team is currently performing, ignoring the whole player profiling part of it when it comes to evaluating players.

Clubs don't do this. They care way more about the just the player in isolation.
 
Definitely not for me. This a very special player and people are forgetting quickly how good he is due to injury and a slow start this season.

He will benefit massively from Amorim and has the skill set to to be unplayable.

I do agree 100m is a lot of money but if we did make a sale like that you can bet your bottom dollar we are paying at least 50% more on any players we sign.

We would be much better placed to build a team around him.
 
People need to realise his performances, age, position, current ability and potential.

Like literally there are very few CM’s in the world who are as good as him at his age. If he was 27 and this was him at his best he’d probably be worth £100m. Look at how he influenced England in the euros.

At his age you develop him and hope he reaches his full potential and in a few years you’ll have one of the best cm in world football. Football above money.
 
TheReligion said:
Why is the club completely toxic from top to bottom then? Elaborate
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Where do I even begin? Let’s start at the top.

Owners – The Glazers. They’ve been bleeding the club dry for years, prioritising profits over progress. Despite charging fans exorbitant ticket prices, Old Trafford is literally crumbling. It’s a disgrace to see a club of our stature in such a state.

Sir Jim Ratcliffe. While his intentions may seem genuine, his execution so far has been questionable at best. He brought in a team of solid football minds, and for a moment, things felt optimistic. But in a matter of months, he’s sacked a manager he probably should’ve let go before the season even started. And then there’s his handling of ten Hag’s contract extension – it was amateurish, rushed, and poorly timed. Add to that the baffling decision to bring in Dan Ashworth, only to let him go shortly after – it’s chaos at the top.

Recruitment. It continues to be a mess. We overpay for players that other clubs are eager to offload, while failing to address key areas of need. On top of that, we keep handing out massive wages to players who either can’t stay fit or simply don’t perform.

The fanbase. Some sections of our supporters are another issue altogether. The abuse directed at young talents like Garnacho and, more recently, Mainoo is completely unacceptable. These are players with huge potential, but they’re part of a squad where the so-called superstars are maddeningly inconsistent. It’s no wonder frustrations boil over, but targeting the youth is both counterproductive and cruel.

I love Manchester United deeply and will always support the club, but it’s impossible to ignore the toxicity surrounding it right now. The culture needs a complete overhaul, from the ownership to players, to the attitudes within the fanbase.

That’s just my perspective, and I understand others might see things differently. But one thing is clear: something has to change.

Hope I've elaborated enough.
 
Eriku said:
Lots of false dawns and false corners turned the past decade.

Also, 100 mill ain’t what it used to be, and Kobbie’s had a sluggish start to the season, which isn’t too strange considering the year he’s had. I expect him to improve, and I’d rather keep him.
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It is and it isn't. For a single player it's still a lot, very few go for that. I would say it's even dropped and a few years ago more players were bought for 100m.
 
If you sell Kobbie for 100mill, teams are going to know your need replacements. Prices go up then as the opposition know what you're after.
 
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