Has any pundit on British TV ever called him out, I'm struggling to think of one.
How would you feel if Rooney smashed it at Everton?
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He was pretty woeful last night - just like last season. What I find strange is how his touch has deserted him. I can understand losing that bit of acceleration but no reason he should have developed the first touch of a donkey over the last 18 months.
His whole game has really dropped but I think the loss of his ability to surge past people is what made him go from a good to an average player. I would argue that is down to burn-out that is common with a player that started so young. His natural physique hasn't helped and the fact he didn't do his best to make the most of that is the only thing I would hold against him. Too many beers and kebabs!
His whole game has really dropped but I think the loss of his ability to surge past people is what made him go from a good to an average player. I would argue that is down to burn-out that is common with a player that started so young. His natural physique hasn't helped and the fact he didn't do his best to make the most of that is the only thing I would hold against him. Too many beers and kebabs!
He couldn't smash an egg from the 25th floor. Not worried either way.
They were referring to Gueye being Kante-like not Rooney. It was Kevin Campbell who came across like a bloke in the pub at best.
Seriously?
Edit: Oh thank Christ they were talking about Gueye.
Says a lot that it wouldn't actually surprise me. Gary Neville will probably refer to him as being Pirloesque at some point this season.
I suppose he has a better chance of a resurrection at Everton than at Utd, but I will be very surprised if it happens.
Even with the disaster of the last few seasons we've still been competing and winning trophies, challenging for top four. Just the pressure and spotlight of playing for United is an incentive.
There's every chance this year that come mid season, for the first time in his career, the games will be borderline meaningless. Possibly out of international reckoning as well.
I can see Rooney really struggling with that.
This has to be one of the most embarrassing threads ever on the caf, right? Not even bluemoon are as obsessed with talking crap about our ex players.
It's a discussion forum.
This thread was bumped a week ago with people saying they thought he'd be a success because he'd scored a couple of goals in pre-season friendlies.
It's all to do with fitness. If you are concerned about not having the speed to get past the next guy you will be distracted and your ball control will suffer. If you are fit enough not to worry about conserving energy these things come naturally.
Yep.
Said this before. Anybody whose kicked a ball knows that when you're knackered or the legs feel heavy the touch goes. The doubt it creates only exacerbates the problem.
I rather focus on Utd and how we're doing. Not wishing Rooney to fail or anything, I'm just not fussed either way.
The only thing he will smash is a Granny's butt
He was brilliant last night. World class. Said Phil Neville on twitter.
How does that even happen? Most people could get a better shot off than that. It's perfectly set up for shooting. Almost looks like lazy body positioning.
The headline isn't strictly true, but I thought I'd post it for the lols.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/27/after...ton-need-a-new-striker-6811752/#ixzz4o7gW4BxB
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/27/after...ton-need-a-new-striker-6811752/#ixzz4o7gW4BxB
It was evident about 3 years ago that he'd lost his centre of gravity, the epicore of his balancium vitreus. Rooney should have gone to Forest and become a Robin Hood leg-end in the Championship. What Koeman is seeing in training must be turning his hair white and his face red.
Even if he scores 20 goals next year, it doesn't excuse his absolute garbage form for the past 2.5 years. In the last few years, he has been a non entity for the United squad and took up a valuable spot in the team for far too long. Once Sir Alex retired you hired managers who didn't have the balls to see his best days were behind him and who tried to shoehorn him into the midfield, something he was never equipped for.
Hope he does well for himself over there. I would be delighted for him.
But I doubt this happens.
But I doubt this happens.
Absolutely this. However, it cannot be overseen that he is not on the Level needed to win the big trophies anymore.
I still remember the audacity he has claiming that he would retire from internationals after 2018. Fact is he is finished at the top level, just a matter of how long it will take for Everton fans blue-tinted specs to wear off.
It's going to be funny seeing Everton fans slowly come to the realisation that Rooney is complete shite. I expect they will have the same sort of arguments we had on here, where there will be a few fanatics claiming he's still got it.
I still don't understand the hordes who urged Rooney to leave, as it would give him a greater chance of making the world cup.
Anyway, I hope he smashes it at Everton.
Anyway, I hope he smashes it at Everton.
Why would you not want to see him do well? He was finished at UTD, he gave us everything he had. To be fair I've never not wanted a former UTD player to do well when they have moved on, except for Kanchelskis, I fookin' hated him when he left, purely because he was my favourite player as a kid.
"doesn't excuse"? You'd swear he was doing it on purpose, he's legs went. But as you say it was the managers fault, and the board for hiring Moyes, a stronger manager would have ushered him out that first post-Fergie season, as Mourinho did.
Less delusion amongst the blue half of Liverpool, only took 90mins.
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/wayne-rooney.97913/page-2
Crap player plays like crap.
Shocking.
Shocking.
He started looking finished 3 years ago, at age 28 really, which is a little ridiculous.
I think it comes down to four factors.
* Genetics
* Too many miles on the clock, and too many injuries. He started playing at age 16 and played a huge amount of games ever since. He also had to adapt his game a little by changing his shooting style after his metatarsal injuries. Then he looked a bit different after he came back from the Bayern injury.
* Not taking good enough care of himself with his diet, extra training, staying away from cigarettes and alcohol etc. He's never been the model professional a la Ronaldo. A lot of players do some drinking and smoking during summer but they aren't paid 250k p. w. to be the best. Giggs took up yoga to deal with fitness issues. Don't see Rooney doing that.
* The mental side of it all. I don't think this should be underestimated. I get the impression he started thinking he had nothing more to prove after his last big contract. Then he came out and said exactly that last season.
And maybe he should never have been made captain for club and country. It's my impression that he was better suited as the second biggest top dog.
I also think he became a more like a jaded mercenary whose primary interest was money at some point, after the contract disputes, rather than someone who loved the club.
He let much of his anger and passion go out of him and started caring less about the results of games and his own performances. He became more buddy-buddy with the opponents on the pitch, which ties into the jaded mercenary thing where it's basically professionals vs. the world, rather than Rooney giving it all fighting for his own club and the Utd fans. But I'm rambling a bit here.
I'm about as concerned about this as I am about him smashing my sister, and I don't have a sister.
What about Tevez?
I'd give it 5 years; 2022.
Although to be fair, a player with the traits of a young Rooney would be most welcome even now
He started looking finished 3 years ago, at age 28 really, which is a little ridiculous.
I think it comes down to four factors.
* Genetics
* Too many miles on the clock, and too many injuries. He started playing at age 16 and played a huge amount of games ever since. He also had to adapt his game a little by changing his shooting style after his metatarsal injuries. Then he looked a bit different after he came back from the Bayern injury.
* Not taking good enough care of himself with his diet, extra training, staying away from cigarettes and alcohol etc. He's never been the model professional a la Ronaldo. A lot of players do some drinking and smoking during summer but they aren't paid 250k p. w. to be the best. Giggs took up yoga to deal with fitness issues. Don't see Rooney doing that.
* The mental side of it all. I don't think this should be underestimated. I get the impression he started thinking he had nothing more to prove after his last big contract. Then he came out and said exactly that last season.
And maybe he should never have been made captain for club and country. It's my impression that he was better suited as the second biggest top dog.
I also think he became a more like a jaded mercenary whose primary interest was money at some point, after the contract disputes, rather than someone who loved the club.
He let much of his anger and passion go out of him and started caring less about the results of games and his own performances. He became more buddy-buddy with the opponents on the pitch, which ties into the jaded mercenary thing where it's basically professionals vs. the world, rather than Rooney giving it all fighting for his own club and the Utd fans. But I'm rambling a bit here.
I'd agree with all of that yeah.
Combination of factors led to his dramatic decline.
Giggs took up yoga to make getting his leg over easierHe started looking finished 3 years ago, at age 28 really, which is a little ridiculous.
I think it comes down to four factors.
* Genetics
* Too many miles on the clock, and too many injuries. He started playing at age 16 and played a huge amount of games ever since. He also had to adapt his game a little by changing his shooting style after his metatarsal injuries. Then he looked a bit different after he came back from the Bayern injury.
* Not taking good enough care of himself with his diet, extra training, staying away from cigarettes and alcohol etc. He's never been the model professional a la Ronaldo. A lot of players do some drinking and smoking during summer but they aren't paid 250k p. w. to be the best. Giggs took up yoga to deal with fitness issues. Don't see Rooney doing that.
* The mental side of it all. I don't think this should be underestimated. I get the impression he started thinking he had nothing more to prove after his last big contract. Then he came out and said exactly that last season.
And maybe he should never have been made captain for club and country. It's my impression that he was better suited as the second biggest top dog.
I also think he became a more like a jaded mercenary whose primary interest was money at some point, after the contract disputes, rather than someone who loved the club.
He let much of his anger and passion go out of him and started caring less about the results of games and his own performances. He became more buddy-buddy with the opponents on the pitch, which ties into the jaded mercenary thing where it's basically professionals vs. the world, rather than Rooney giving it all fighting for his own club and the Utd fans. But I'm rambling a bit here.
Koeman already looking for a new striker. If he'd read the caf he'd have known that 2 years ago.
They are deluded as the most deluded Liverpool fan. Flick through other threads on that forum and you'll find out.
"the epicore of his balancium vitreus"
Guess what the top Google search is on this term:
The only records he's going to break at Everton this season would be his weight.
The reason why we let him go is because we feel he can't 'smash it' anymore. It's not like we had a falling out (this time) or he left for other reasons. He was sold purely because of his inability to perform at the required level. The chances of him rediscovering his form at Everton, an inferior team, are less because he's declined significantly. It'd take a huge turnaround for him to do amazing, but if he does then all credit to him. But realistically speaking he will be a bigger asset in providing his experience in the dressing room, rather than on the pitch.
Stumbled across the Everton game on ITV4 last night, presumed it was some cruddy friendly.
Everton are in the Europa, at 3rd qualifying round? Talk about a real awakener for Rooney!
Everton are in the Europa, at 3rd qualifying round? Talk about a real awakener for Rooney!