Guys at work at are like that all the time. The pseudo squaring up to each other is a big part of male banter. It's nothing a couple of mates having a faux fight.
How to fall in love with the club again?
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Its not the love you have lost it sounds like the passion. Hopefully we have a good upcoming season that can bring that back.
Should've never lost your love for the club in the first place and if you did it wasn't real...
I stopped watching for a period of 2-3years but always considered myself still a United fan and when I came back it was still the only team I watched every game for week in and week out
I stopped watching for a period of 2-3years but always considered myself still a United fan and when I came back it was still the only team I watched every game for week in and week out
I don't think some of us will never feel the same about Manchester United, like we used to when we were younger. Whenever United lost a game, I wouldn't even feel like going to the school/Uni years ago. But somwhere along the way, I've lost that. I've always watched all the United games on TV, and even left several night outs early to catch games.
But those times are long gone. The only United shirt I have is the 2006-07 one. I was at an Adidas store with my friend to get a t shirt for him, and the 2017-18 kit was there. As much as my heart wanted it, I didn't buy it. I don't feel like wearing a football shirt in public for some reason. May be I've grown up?
I enjoy watching United, and football in general. I play a bit too. In fact, I'm drinking with my friends here on a Saturday night, after a 7 a side game. But those days being madly in love with United is long gone. And I don't think I'll ever feel the same.
But those times are long gone. The only United shirt I have is the 2006-07 one. I was at an Adidas store with my friend to get a t shirt for him, and the 2017-18 kit was there. As much as my heart wanted it, I didn't buy it. I don't feel like wearing a football shirt in public for some reason. May be I've grown up?
I enjoy watching United, and football in general. I play a bit too. In fact, I'm drinking with my friends here on a Saturday night, after a 7 a side game. But those days being madly in love with United is long gone. And I don't think I'll ever feel the same.
The thing is, United are my team...come what may. I started supporting them at the age of 6 because my best friend did. When I was 11, many many years ago....I thought maybe Spurs were a better team to support, they were doing well at the time, were closer to me and United were shite. So I bagged up my cuttings book (yeah, no internet then, I just cut out the reports of each match from the newspapers and glued them into a book, still got them in fact!) and said...'right...spurs fan I am' (yes, prawn sandwich I suppose...although back then they weren't even invented). However, when the next game came along.......I couldn't do it...spurs won, but united lost...and I felt awful because deep down I was hoping the opposite. That is when I knew I could never change and that United, whatever happens was my team and it has been through thick and thin and it will continue to be so. It's not romantic at all, it just is. It's tribal. So after all these years of supporting them, is it love? Not sure, but it is an addiction and because this addiction doesn't really harm me badly like other addictions do, I happy for it and will continue to feed it no matter what.
My advice is don't take it too seriously. It's just football. When you start getting wound up because of Manchester United's results, step back and remember it's a game.
We don't lift the trophies, we don't know the people and we have no influence at the top end other than being customers.
Appreciate the game for what it is. If you go to a Sunday league game or a non league game, you don't scrutinise every play. You go to enjoy the game win, lose or draw. It's football at it's purist. It should be no different no matter what level really.
We don't lift the trophies, we don't know the people and we have no influence at the top end other than being customers.
Appreciate the game for what it is. If you go to a Sunday league game or a non league game, you don't scrutinise every play. You go to enjoy the game win, lose or draw. It's football at it's purist. It should be no different no matter what level really.
Guys, this thread is outdated.
I feckin loved the game yesterday and I feel like a child again. I can't wait for the league season.
I think I simply needed a break having seen United losing so many chances to go up in the league table. I just didn't care as much as I should have, because I knew there were always going to feck up. Now, I think (even if they do it sometimes), that break has helped me a lot to just get rid of that frustration.
Summer and a few months of the previous season simply helped. Seriously.
I feckin loved the game yesterday and I feel like a child again. I can't wait for the league season.
I think I simply needed a break having seen United losing so many chances to go up in the league table. I just didn't care as much as I should have, because I knew there were always going to feck up. Now, I think (even if they do it sometimes), that break has helped me a lot to just get rid of that frustration.
Summer and a few months of the previous season simply helped. Seriously.
It's a generation thing, when we all started following United and football in general it was magic, even though you would hear the older generation spout on about how it was better in their day, real players who got no money, shit pitches, footballs were like medicine balls, crazy tackles on keepers etc, but the new generation only know what football is today and they love the big wages, transfers, diving controversy, social media and all that, it does'nt help that we uniquely got institutionalised for so long with SAF, that was United for so long, but you follow your team no matter what and this club always finds a way to hold tradition and achieve, through all the shit for example with lvg, when Jesse scored that winner in ET in the FA Cup final as an academy product while down to 10 men, it was a throwback to Whiteside's goal in 1985 in very similar circumstances, that was magic for me.
Just because you've had your big fecking epiphany doesn't mean the rest of us can't use the thread as a place to gripe and groan.
It belongs to everyone now.
This thread's for amateur moaners. Try every matchday thread. And any player performance thread (Fellaini and Martial are obvious favourites). In fact any thread in the United Forum (apart from Matic's, give him at least a week's grace before we rubbish him to the ground).
I never fell out in love with why I support united, but the club and the management team really do frustrate me, scratch that the club has done their part, given the funds, our financial position is stronger than ever, its the management team at times I despise the football. How they have seen the vision for the team not a fan of in terms of evolving, while transfers been tried to be done early its just the attitude of our management team in how we play the game is what is frustrating me. If we see the same dire football with struggling to score goals, then its been 3 managers who don't quiet understand the club's fabric. I love the club, not too fond on our manager styles
No matter the generation, but we all grew up with allot of united teams who played with no fear, there were some managers before fergie who played some dire football. But since fergie retired think the direction has changed, well we have seen it. I don't like the direction football has gone, where money has been a monstrosity to the game where its out of control. I did like the balance 10 15 years ago where clubs were spending money, but not to this extent. Clubs knew their level, now everyone is spending like leeds on steroids
No matter the generation, but we all grew up with allot of united teams who played with no fear, there were some managers before fergie who played some dire football. But since fergie retired think the direction has changed, well we have seen it. I don't like the direction football has gone, where money has been a monstrosity to the game where its out of control. I did like the balance 10 15 years ago where clubs were spending money, but not to this extent. Clubs knew their level, now everyone is spending like leeds on steroids
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You never stop loving someone or something.
Idk if comparing love of your club to love of your sig other is a good comparison... but I'd say this is like a relationship with your sig other.
The love should always be there.
There will be ups and downs. But you gotta love what you got during the good and bad times or don't look back and move on.
If you leave during the downs, you shouldn't come back when there are ups again. Well I mean if I get left by a girl when I'm down, then I get back to being successful, and that person wants to come back ... I'm going to tell them to piss off because they are basically chasing money/glory
I mean that's how I see it at least. If you're a true fan, you will be loyal and love what you got. You can hate losing and all that, but should always "love" your club
The love should always be there.
There will be ups and downs. But you gotta love what you got during the good and bad times or don't look back and move on.
If you leave during the downs, you shouldn't come back when there are ups again. Well I mean if I get left by a girl when I'm down, then I get back to being successful, and that person wants to come back ... I'm going to tell them to piss off because they are basically chasing money/glory
I mean that's how I see it at least. If you're a true fan, you will be loyal and love what you got. You can hate losing and all that, but should always "love" your club
Do you still need a reason after today's performance. 
Thought I'd be good to update this thread.
Has anything changed? Well, I've been a bit busy with my personal life lately, so I don't really have much time to watch every United game. In fact, I haven't seen a game for more than a month. However, I keep myself updated at least in the morning and in the evening using some websites concerning United. And to be fair, it helps me to feel "it" once again.
I set up our own business with my girlfriend and we're busy - especially on Saturdays (and very often on Sundays, too). It doesn't help to watch United games. And when it's Tuesday or Wednesday, I'm simply too tired to watch the game and focus on watching United.
I think that following the team, not trying to do my best to watch every game, have helped, actually. I feel just like when I was 10 and I didn't have access to the Internet and had to follow United on teletext or in newspapers, but it's beautiful as well, isn't it?
Has anything changed? Well, I've been a bit busy with my personal life lately, so I don't really have much time to watch every United game. In fact, I haven't seen a game for more than a month. However, I keep myself updated at least in the morning and in the evening using some websites concerning United. And to be fair, it helps me to feel "it" once again.
I set up our own business with my girlfriend and we're busy - especially on Saturdays (and very often on Sundays, too). It doesn't help to watch United games. And when it's Tuesday or Wednesday, I'm simply too tired to watch the game and focus on watching United.
I think that following the team, not trying to do my best to watch every game, have helped, actually. I feel just like when I was 10 and I didn't have access to the Internet and had to follow United on teletext or in newspapers, but it's beautiful as well, isn't it?
Been supporting United since 1984, so there is absolutely no need to fall in love with a club that I have always been in love with.
Another note though, are we happy with the progress with United after Ferguson? I for one, am. We have definitely improved significantly from last season.
Points after 14 matches:
2013/14 (Moyes) 22
2014/15 (LVG) 25
2015/16 (LVG) 28
2016/17 (Mou) 21 (!!!)
2017/18 (Mou) 32
Another note though, are we happy with the progress with United after Ferguson? I for one, am. We have definitely improved significantly from last season.
Points after 14 matches:
2013/14 (Moyes) 22
2014/15 (LVG) 25
2015/16 (LVG) 28
2016/17 (Mou) 21 (!!!)
2017/18 (Mou) 32
I love when someone describes his or her problem, just like I did with my problem to feel what I felt some season ago, and there are people shouting who is the better Red.
God, you can call me the worst fan ever, but it means you're stupid and didn't get the topic.
God, you can call me the worst fan ever, but it means you're stupid and didn't get the topic.
I've never fallen out of love with the club but I've definitely found it hard to love watching us after Sir Alex.
How dare you not fall in love with us, everyday, over and over again, until the end of time.
Give it Giggseh.
Well, Maciek also said he was rediscovering his love for the club by not watching the games. Maybe you two are on to something here.
I think you fall out with how the team perform, not with the club per se. We all have a moan after a loss or a period of under performing. Its the same with the managers, if you see no improvement in their tenure.
Watching the rise of City after Sir Alex retired doesn't help either. It's like watching hyenas multiplying and thriving once they realised that the lions have left the jungle.
Don’t really understand the stick in this thread. Just people trying to show what amazing fans they are.
I love and haven’t stopped loving United. I support United just as much as I did. I am just as passionate when I watch games. Still frustrates me when we lose.
But I can’t put my finger on why, it isn’t the same as when we had Fergie. And it’s got nothing to do with the winning and losing.
Perhaps as @Pogue Mahone put it way ago, at 27 years old my entire childhood was with Fergie at the helm and so subconsciously perhaps my best memories are so closely and intrinsically linked with having Fergie at the helm that it is disillusioning now that he’s gone.
Perhaps the change in philosophy hasn’t helped. Or is it really a change at all? The realisation that actually, we are just a normal club, which perhaps my niaivety and ignorance as a kid allowed me to ignore and believe we were unique. Where is that United attacking way gone? Where is that belief in youth? We are just as accustomed to making bad decisions like other clubs (like the Moyes hiring). All of these things we never had to worry about or got exposure to when Fergie was about.
Perhaps it’s because as I have gotten older my exposure to the commercial aspects of the club have become far more prominent (and just the unfortunate nature of timing is it coincides with Fergies departure). Endless emails and texts to get me to try buy match day tickets. Making me feel like a potential customer rather than a cherished fan.
Or, maybe it’s just as simple as I’ve gotten older and life’s moving on. Maybe it’s that, nothing has actually changed at all, but my priorities changing mean I don’t have the capacity to only think about United. When I was younger you’d the first part of the week really excited for the midweek CL games. Then the back half really excited for the weekend matchup. Now, there’s far too much going on.
What I do know, though, is I’m content with this now. Whatever the reason is, United is still as important a fixture in my life as it’s always been even if my attention isn’t always as much as it once was, and I will always support them.
I love and haven’t stopped loving United. I support United just as much as I did. I am just as passionate when I watch games. Still frustrates me when we lose.
But I can’t put my finger on why, it isn’t the same as when we had Fergie. And it’s got nothing to do with the winning and losing.
Perhaps as @Pogue Mahone put it way ago, at 27 years old my entire childhood was with Fergie at the helm and so subconsciously perhaps my best memories are so closely and intrinsically linked with having Fergie at the helm that it is disillusioning now that he’s gone.
Perhaps the change in philosophy hasn’t helped. Or is it really a change at all? The realisation that actually, we are just a normal club, which perhaps my niaivety and ignorance as a kid allowed me to ignore and believe we were unique. Where is that United attacking way gone? Where is that belief in youth? We are just as accustomed to making bad decisions like other clubs (like the Moyes hiring). All of these things we never had to worry about or got exposure to when Fergie was about.
Perhaps it’s because as I have gotten older my exposure to the commercial aspects of the club have become far more prominent (and just the unfortunate nature of timing is it coincides with Fergies departure). Endless emails and texts to get me to try buy match day tickets. Making me feel like a potential customer rather than a cherished fan.
Or, maybe it’s just as simple as I’ve gotten older and life’s moving on. Maybe it’s that, nothing has actually changed at all, but my priorities changing mean I don’t have the capacity to only think about United. When I was younger you’d the first part of the week really excited for the midweek CL games. Then the back half really excited for the weekend matchup. Now, there’s far too much going on.
What I do know, though, is I’m content with this now. Whatever the reason is, United is still as important a fixture in my life as it’s always been even if my attention isn’t always as much as it once was, and I will always support them.
Who falls out of love for United? Strange.
There's a mix of things:
1. Post SAF Depression - the permanency of a great manager has been replaced with a merry-go-round. Even with Mou being a good choice (the best available for sure) it doesn't stop speculation about him being unhappy or leaving. Each manager has brought a new philosophy and 3 of the last 5 seasons have been 'transitional'. Sure we had rough patches under SAF but we were always in the title picture in the Premier League era.
2. Life - Since SAF left I bought a house, got engaged, got married, had a kid (with another due any day now). I suspect a considerable percentage of posters are 25+ and can probably relate to at least 1 major life event happening since SAF left that might change their outlook. As @rpitroda says, for many its no longer the main focus that we had when we were kids.
3. Champions League - It was a given under SAF that we would progress and do well especially from the Treble season onwards. We've had to get used to being in and out of the competition. Again its down to being spoiled under SAF
1. Post SAF Depression - the permanency of a great manager has been replaced with a merry-go-round. Even with Mou being a good choice (the best available for sure) it doesn't stop speculation about him being unhappy or leaving. Each manager has brought a new philosophy and 3 of the last 5 seasons have been 'transitional'. Sure we had rough patches under SAF but we were always in the title picture in the Premier League era.
2. Life - Since SAF left I bought a house, got engaged, got married, had a kid (with another due any day now). I suspect a considerable percentage of posters are 25+ and can probably relate to at least 1 major life event happening since SAF left that might change their outlook. As @rpitroda says, for many its no longer the main focus that we had when we were kids.
3. Champions League - It was a given under SAF that we would progress and do well especially from the Treble season onwards. We've had to get used to being in and out of the competition. Again its down to being spoiled under SAF
I think a huge part of it is money in football and sanitisation of the 'product' generally. When you're hearing from City fans who are pissed off with their ticketing and being treated like shite by match day security you know there must be a problem given they've never had it better on the pitch. When the cost of going to games is so high, with Sky and BT hammering those who watch legally at home, at the same time as wages, transfer and fecking agent fees hit the roof it's natural to question your loyalty to your club and to the game. FC United divide opinion, and of course they've had their own problems, but I think their founding happened for a good reason.
Specifically for United fans, we have to face the fact we were spoilt rotten under Fergie when barring the odd blip from Blackburn, Arsenal and Chelsea we were undisputed top dog. City's meteoric rise, other ships lifting with the tide and the mismanagement of Fergie's departure has put us back amongst the pack and we don't like it. But that's the reality and for me you either accept it and get on with it or you stop following United, staying around torturing yourself that we're not the best anymore is pointless.
For those feeling like they have lost their love for United and/or the game I would suggest a back to basics approach. Most importantly stop spending money you can't afford/you hugely resent parting with on the game, it's bloody expensive and will only heighten your resentment if and when things don't go well. There are *allegedly* lots of cheap ways to follow us these days so use the if you need to. Also I find making a special effort to watch games with fellow fans is always preferable to watching alone, and if you can't get to Old Trafford for whatever reason think about making a habit of getting down to a live match, any match, once in a while. Tickets for lower/non-league teams can be very cheap, it can be very fun and if they're particularly terrible it may at least make you appreciate how good United really are!
Specifically for United fans, we have to face the fact we were spoilt rotten under Fergie when barring the odd blip from Blackburn, Arsenal and Chelsea we were undisputed top dog. City's meteoric rise, other ships lifting with the tide and the mismanagement of Fergie's departure has put us back amongst the pack and we don't like it. But that's the reality and for me you either accept it and get on with it or you stop following United, staying around torturing yourself that we're not the best anymore is pointless.
For those feeling like they have lost their love for United and/or the game I would suggest a back to basics approach. Most importantly stop spending money you can't afford/you hugely resent parting with on the game, it's bloody expensive and will only heighten your resentment if and when things don't go well. There are *allegedly* lots of cheap ways to follow us these days so use the if you need to. Also I find making a special effort to watch games with fellow fans is always preferable to watching alone, and if you can't get to Old Trafford for whatever reason think about making a habit of getting down to a live match, any match, once in a while. Tickets for lower/non-league teams can be very cheap, it can be very fun and if they're particularly terrible it may at least make you appreciate how good United really are!
have never fallen out of love. in the 780s, the worse things got the more I loved them
The question for me is.. how to fall out of love with Manchester United?
Still find myself looking forward to every match post-SAF. Love the game, love the club, back the players and manager. Call me crazy, I know.
Still find myself looking forward to every match post-SAF. Love the game, love the club, back the players and manager. Call me crazy, I know.
I think that you're all right.
And these two... it shows that you can't discuss here, because some people only see this thread as their chance to "prove" they're true Reds...
Fallen out of love thread - no wonder Man United fans have the worst reputation across the country and labelled as entitled and glory hunters.
If United 'fans' are genuinely questioning their support because it isn't the 90s anymore they can piss right off. We have to accept where we are and support the team in 2017, not pine for the halcyon days of yore.
That being said I have sympathy for fans, particularly match-goers, who are frustrated with being bent over and done dry by a club and a game that is drifting further from its fan base seemingly by the day. Ok you could argue it's convenient for a United fan to have a sudden moral awakening to the machinations of commercial corpulence now when we're not top dog anymore but I certainly think growing commercialisation is off-putting to many fans.
And these two... it shows that you can't discuss here, because some people only see this thread as their chance to "prove" they're true Reds...
I very much doubt they feel the need to prove to the internet, they're just addressing the topic of the thread beyond your own story.
Personally i think many United fans have an unhealthy perspective and most would benefit from supporting a normal team either in football or another sport. It's not all about the good times, this place has forgot how to enioy a victory during difficult times because everything is about being the best.
So if someone falls out of love they were never Real Fans in the first place? feck off with this Top Red bullshit. Just because it hasn't happened for you doesn't mean that people who became disillusioned were glory hunters.Not fallen out of love , just needs a freshen up, maybe buy some new lingerie (effective wingers and fullbacks) and we'll be all over them like a rash once more.
I had almost the exact same experience growing up.
I grew up in North London but always supported United, as did a lot of the kids in my primary school.
Me and a friend also tried the whole 'let's support our local club' thing (which was Spurs) and to this day he is a hardcore Spurs fan. I lasted about 20 minutes.
Spurs were not the team for me - which is a shame, because it would be a million times more convenient for me.
I don't feel emotionally connected with most of United players there (other than Smalling and a semi-retired Carrick, and maybe DDG). I just feel most are in at United just for the money. We offer them the big fat paycheck, thus they are in. No more about proving yourself, then you get the reward.
^^ Top red! ^^
I grew up in Stockport used to go to watch Stockport County on a Friday night then United on a Saturday , County with my pals from school remember empty stands and messing around during the game . Then Saturday at old Trafford with my best pal pay on the turnstiles scarf tied around my wrist , stand on the Stratford end packed solid couldn't see a bloody thing singing my head off , tumbling forward with the sway of the Crowd , fantastic atmosphere straining on tip toe to catch a glimpse of Georgie Best or Denis law , eating a ropey pie at half time missing virtually every goal as I wasn't tall enough to see but loving every single minute of it , that was when my love affair with United began along with the darkest of moments ( I was there when Law back heeled that goal for City and was there when our 1st home game in the 2nd division was against Blackpool and I got bitten on the shoulder by a police horse !! ) there were great unforgettable moments , provided by fantastic players
The resurrection at the hands of the doc , stevie coppel on one wing Merlin the magician on the other Lou Macari , Stuart Pearson Big Jim Holton , Big Joe Jordan , Robbo , Eric the King great names great times a club like no other we should never forget the history of our great club I fell in love with it almost 50 years ago the club has changed but the game in general has changed younger fans can only imagine what the atmosphere used to be like it was ELECTRIC win lose or draw ( please bring back singing sections to get the atmosphere back )
We are fortunate to be united fans my grown up sons are as passionate as me I got them season tickets when they were 7 and 9 we moan ,we groan we complain but we are Manchester United thank god I wasn't born in London or Liverpool or Sheffield or god forbid Glasgow .
Manchester United one love always .
The resurrection at the hands of the doc , stevie coppel on one wing Merlin the magician on the other Lou Macari , Stuart Pearson Big Jim Holton , Big Joe Jordan , Robbo , Eric the King great names great times a club like no other we should never forget the history of our great club I fell in love with it almost 50 years ago the club has changed but the game in general has changed younger fans can only imagine what the atmosphere used to be like it was ELECTRIC win lose or draw ( please bring back singing sections to get the atmosphere back )
We are fortunate to be united fans my grown up sons are as passionate as me I got them season tickets when they were 7 and 9 we moan ,we groan we complain but we are Manchester United thank god I wasn't born in London or Liverpool or Sheffield or god forbid Glasgow .
Manchester United one love always .