So sink even lower, yes the kids might supposedly love United but some are not as good as rated on here. The biggest signing to make is a new manager.
How much will we spend? (summer 2016 Ed.)
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It was a joke, I just want him sacked.
Sorry. My sarcasm meter has crashed.
Which is why we should do our shopping in Europe, especially if the euro remains weak. So avoid the likes of Barkley, Stones, Master, Mane etc
Our net spend was 33.61 million pounds last summer, so hopefully it's a hell of a lot more than that.
It's about the quality of spending, really. We bought Schneiderlin and Memphis for over 50 million last summer, and they've both been poor.
It's about the quality of spending, really. We bought Schneiderlin and Memphis for over 50 million last summer, and they've both been poor.
Leceister have shown that it's not about spending big, it's all about management.
No, it is both.
Leceister haven't spent big!
They are an anomaly. For a big club to compete they have to spend top money on fees and wages.
The correlation between wage bill and league position in the last ten seasons is near-perfect. The team with the biggest wage bill gets position 1 or 2 almost every season.
Woody is magnet for deals involved companies paying him big money and Jose will definitely know how to spend it on world class characters that we probably need the most but I won't be surprised if he will try show his mentor how to win something with current group of players.
Below 200 million easily but new manager's ambition may push us in finally hijacking some big targets so you'll never know.
Below 200 million easily but new manager's ambition may push us in finally hijacking some big targets so you'll never know.
Spurs haven't spent big either - are they another 'anomaly' in the league this year?
Or take Liverpool, for another example. They spend a lot more on wages than Spurs, yet Spurs have finished above them in 5 of the last 6 seasons .... soon to be 6 of the last 7 seasons.
Or take United, soon Spurs will have finished above them in 2 of the last 3 seasons.
How many 'anomalies' are allowed before your "near perfect" description falls flat?
Of course Spurs being where they are is an anomaly. This season in general is anomalous due to the woeful points totals of pretty much every team (especially United/Chelsea).
Usually the table reflects the spend on wages with United Chelsea City and Arsenal at the top, Spurs/Liverpool below them and Everton below them.
Anyone who disagrees that there is an incredibly strong correlation between a clubs wage bill and their average position in the table is either an idiot or a troll.
It's both. Building a good team that functions as a team as well as good management and of course if you can spend big and build a more expensive team that works well together you will probably outplay the cheaper teams, even if they work well together.
The problem is just that there is no blueprint on how to build such a team.
This season so far is not just due to the "woeful points totals of pretty much every team (especially United/Chelsea)." It's also partly due to the fact that Leicester and Spurs have been playing very well.
I'm challenging "near perfect" as an accurate description of the correlation between club-spend (wages and net transfer spend) and league position. I've cited 3 anomalies already, but there are dozens more. Newcastle is just one of them, QPR have been another, as have Villa, Sunderland etc etc.
Near perfect is obviously slightly strong, but no one could argue that the correlation is very compelling.
Spurs and Leicester have played well, but if Chelsea, City and United had played to their potential they'd all be averaging 2 points or more a game and it'd look far more "normal".
We clearly require 4 players to enhance the 1st XI itself: a centre back, a defensive midfield playmaker, a right winger and a striker.
All these players need to be better than we currently have: so upgrades on Blind/Rojo, an ageing Carrick, Lingard and an aging Rooney. So essentially they have to be developed top quality players.
If we take City's summer 2015 acquisitions of Otamendhi, De Bryne and Sterling as benchmark costings, then we will require at least £140m to fund our necessary upgrades.
Let's assume that Jones, Fellaini and maybe Mata. Few other minor players leave, so expect incoming fee's of approx £25m.
I cant see how we can have a team capable of challenging City and others next season without a net spend of around £120m. Interestingly our cash reserves is around £130m so maybe that's the plan.
All these players need to be better than we currently have: so upgrades on Blind/Rojo, an ageing Carrick, Lingard and an aging Rooney. So essentially they have to be developed top quality players.
If we take City's summer 2015 acquisitions of Otamendhi, De Bryne and Sterling as benchmark costings, then we will require at least £140m to fund our necessary upgrades.
Let's assume that Jones, Fellaini and maybe Mata. Few other minor players leave, so expect incoming fee's of approx £25m.
I cant see how we can have a team capable of challenging City and others next season without a net spend of around £120m. Interestingly our cash reserves is around £130m so maybe that's the plan.
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Transfer fees aren't paid up front, they're generally done over the length of the contract I believe.
I've thought about this for several seconds and have concluded:
Incoming: £173.5m
Outgoing: £53.5m
Always with the .5
Incoming: £173.5m
Outgoing: £53.5m
Always with the .5
As with last season, I predict that our net spend will be rather low. I think the recent splurges on sub-par players have not gone unnoticed and I reckon we'll be toning down the spending. Also, I doubt they'll trust Woody/Van Gaal with big money again. I reckon we'll try to improve our striking options and possibly bring in a young player or two. I also think that we'll be looking to ship out a couple of players, so I'd say £70-100m.
£120m
CB (Laporte or Stones)
CM (Gundogan)
RW (Griezmann)
ST (Zlatan)
CB (Laporte or Stones)
CM (Gundogan)
RW (Griezmann)
ST (Zlatan)
There was a great article somewhere that compared wage bill and league position in the last ten season of the PL and the correlation was absolutely huge.
Here's one for 2012/13 season -http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/may/01/premier-league-club-accounts-debt-wages
If Spurs and Leicester are to maintain their CL positions, they will have to massively grow their wage bill in the coming years.