How much will we spend in January?

In your opinion, how much do you think we will spend this transfer window?

  • Nothing

    Votes: 21 9.7%

  • Loans only

    Votes: 143 66.2%

  • 0-5m

    Votes: 5 2.3%

  • 5-10m

    Votes: 11 5.1%

  • 10-15m

    Votes: 13 6.0%

  • 15-20m

    Votes: 10 4.6%

  • 20-30m

    Votes: 4 1.9%

  • 30-40m

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • 40-50m

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 50m+

    Votes: 8 3.7%
  • Total voters
    216
Cant see the parasites spending anything as all they are interested in is selling up now. If they spent nothing or £300 mill it wont make any difference to the asking price they want.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Do you think it is that literal for a long term buyer? Only signal from being in the CL this year is that we receive prize money for one year ?
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No matter which way you look at it, stop kidding yourself. The glazers aren’t about to spunk 50m on anyone. They could have bought Gapko if they were interested in spending money.
 
Clearly loan only but there are fees to a loan deal. Considering we spent £10.5 million previously in the Ighalo loan, there is hopefully some appetite to spend a little more than that to bring in a talent like Felix.
 
Giggsy13 said:
Clearly loan only but there are fees to that loan. Considering we spent £10.5 million previously in the Ighalo loan, there is hopefully some appetite to spend a little more than that to bring in a talent like Felix.
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You would hope so but then we weren't as skint when bringing in Ighalo
 
What interests me from this poll is that 7 people don’t understand that you can’t take knickers off a bare arse
 
golden_blunder said:
No matter which way you look at it, stop kidding yourself. The glazers aren’t about to spunk 50m on anyone. They could have bought Gapko if they were interested in spending money.
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I don't think they are interesting in 'spending money'. That would be a stupid thing to be interested in. They would be interested in boosting our CL chances to greatly help the sale. They spent a record amount in summer, are we saying they had no idea they would sell up at that point ? The differences in prices they could achieve are in the billions. 50m for a player is barely relevant if the CL signal meant selling for another billion.

And not signing a winger that we don't need as evidence that they wouldn't spend on the right player, again don't agree with. It is obvious we need to replace Ronaldo if someone is available. We don't need competition for rashford and sancho
 
Crashoutcassius said:
I don't think they are interesting in 'spending money'. That would be a stupid thing to be interested in. They would be interested in boosting our CL chances to greatly help the sale. They spent a record amount in summer, are we saying they had no idea they would sell up at that point ? The differences in prices they could achieve are in the billions. 50m for a player is barely relevant if the CL signal meant selling for another billion.
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Try and spin it any way you want. There is no money in the pot anymore, we couldn’t afford to chase Gapko and the accounts confirm it. You’re asking glazers to dip in their own pocket which they’ve never done.
 
UpWithRivers said:
No one knows. Saying loan or 50 million is the same thing - a guess. How the fk does anyone know what the financial situation is apart from the top executives and Im pretty sure they havnt rang the United Stand and told them that we are broke and can only afford loans
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Given that the Glazers are trying the sell the club, and with what we've heard about the state of the finances, along with the rumoured targets it's fairly clear we won't be breaking the bank in Jan.

It's usually difficult to get anyone decent in January anyway. It'll be a loan if we even get someone in.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
I don't think they are interesting in 'spending money'. That would be a stupid thing to be interested in. They would be interested in boosting our CL chances to greatly help the sale. They spent a record amount in summer, are we saying they had no idea they would sell up at that point ? The differences in prices they could achieve are in the billions. 50m for a player is barely relevant if the CL signal meant selling for another billion.

And not signing a winger that we don't need as evidence that they wouldn't spend on the right player, again don't agree with. It is obvious we need to replace Ronaldo if someone is available. We don't need competition for rashford and sancho
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I get that CL qualification would make the prospect of buying the club more attractive but how is it going to add 1 billion to the price? What lunatic would pay an extra billion because the club are in the CL next year? How does that make any financial sense?
 
Withnail said:
Given that the Glazers are trying the sell the club, and with what we've heard about the state of the finances, along with the rumoured targets it's fairly clear we won't be breaking the bank in Jan.

It's usually difficult to get anyone decent in January anyway. It'll be a loan if we even get someone in.
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Liverpool are up for sale and are spending so sale of club isnt a hard factor in if we will spend or not. State of finances is an indicator but again everyone is spending and there will be money if we want to buy. Look at Barca. In all sorts of sht but they still spend on players. Thats how it works in any business. There are expenditures that you cannot sidestep. Well you can but it fks up your whole company. Rumored targets is just paper talk. They said the same in summer. No money, penny pinching. Just going for Arunatovic etc

Basically its all just rumors and guesswork. The hard factor is getting the right player at the right price. If Mbappe became available for 100 mill tomorrow and was desperate to come to United then Im sure we will find the cash from somewhere. Same as Oshimen for 70 for example or anyone else. If we were that broke, we could even sell. Or at least try to. Maguire 40 mill. Wan B 25m. Elanga 20m. for example. Thats literally what all clubs without cash do.
 
As previously said, it’ll be a loan deal if we do make any acquisitions this month. Really can’t see anything happening though, a temporary transfer freeze will suit the Glazers as they supposedly try and sell the club.
 
Withnail said:
I get that CL qualification would make the prospect of buying the club more attractive but how is it going to add 1 billion to the price? What lunatic would pay an extra billion because the club are in the CL next year? How does that make any financial sense?
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Just an example of how the prices paid for the club dwarf a 50m fee. If glazers were holding out for 6.5b and the Saudis were only willing to pay 6, I could easily see the signal of CL qualification under ETH as worth an extra 500m to them for example, when they money is near meaningless anyway.

Prior poster said that CL = 26m and nothing else. I disagree from perspective of very wealthy buyer. They can attract the neymar players that they want. Their club is on the biggest stage and it is a signal they will continue to be.
 
golden_blunder said:
Try and spin it any way you want. There is no money in the pot anymore, we couldn’t afford to chase Gapko and the accounts confirm it. You’re asking glazers to dip in their own pocket which they’ve never done.
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We could very easily put a small credit facility in place. Cash is flowing into the club all the time, several hundred million a year. Plus, most deals aren't paid in cash up front.
 
Surprised over a hundred people have access to our club finances. Or are they going by that Daily Mail article?
 
I think the potential sales will be key to determine how much we are going to spend this summer, hopefully we will see a big clear out compared to previous seasons when ETH will have a full season to assess the squad.

Edit to say, just realised this thread is for January transfer window….
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Just an example of how the prices paid for the club dwarf a 50m fee. If glazers were holding out for 6.5b and the Saudis were only willing to pay 6, I could easily see the signal of CL qualification under ETH as worth an extra 500m to them for example, when they money is near meaningless anyway.

Prior poster said that CL = 26m and nothing else. I disagree from perspective of very wealthy buyer. They can attract the neymar players that they want. Their club is on the biggest stage and it is a signal they will continue to be.
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Yes I agree it's worth more than the prize money because of the players you can attract and the extra exposure and potentially higher marketing revenue but I dont see how it's worth even your reduced figure of 500m. If you're saying money is no object as your reasoning then ok, but even so I don't think they would want to be taken advantage of.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
We could very easily put a small credit facility in place. Cash is flowing into the club all the time, several hundred million a year. Plus, most deals aren't paid in cash up front.
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It’s January. Any premium player is going to cost extra money on top because nobody wants to lose their best players mid-season.
with Gapko PSV were desperate for money, they wanted it up front.
 
UpWithRivers said:
Liverpool are up for sale and are spending so sale of club isnt a hard factor in if we will spend or not. State of finances is an indicator but again everyone is spending and there will be money if we want to buy. Look at Barca. In all sorts of sht but they still spend on players. Thats how it works in any business. There are expenditures that you cannot sidestep. Well you can but it fks up your whole company. Rumored targets is just paper talk. They said the same in summer. No money, penny pinching. Just going for Arunatovic etc

Basically its all just rumors and guesswork. The hard factor is getting the right player at the right price. If Mbappe became available for 100 mill tomorrow and was desperate to come to United then Im sure we will find the cash from somewhere. Same as Oshimen for 70 for example or anyone else. If we were that broke, we could even sell. Or at least try to. Maguire 40 mill. Wan B 25m. Elanga 20m. for example. Thats literally what all clubs without cash do.
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Barca are a terrible example and there isn't a chance the Glazers will go down that route. As for Liverpool, they've spent feck all over the past few years whereas we've arguably already spent the Jan transfer money and some of next Summer's budget as well, which was absolutely necessary. Our net spend in the Summer is probably the same as Liverpool's total over three or four seasons.

While, there were some penny pinching rumours at the start of the window but all Summer we were holding out for De Jong who we'd agreed a big fee for and were also in discussions to sign Antony, Gakpo etc.

Also we can't afford to sell any of those players without replacements. Our squad is quite thin. EtH won't even let Elanga go on loan as things stand.
 
golden_blunder said:
Supposedly we wanted to put down a small down payment but PSV wanted money mostly up front so United didn’t take it any further
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What I'm saying I suppose is that if he was a player that could make a material difference in moving us towards the CL the signing would have been made, cash up front etc. This isn't how our upstairs works but I could imagine a sketch show where the glazers ask murtagh where gakpo players and isn't that where those Sancho and rashford fellas play.
 
Crashoutcassius said:
What I'm saying I suppose is that if he was a player that could make a material difference in moving us towards the CL the signing would have been made, cash up front etc. This isn't how our upstairs works but I could imagine a sketch show where the glazers ask murtagh where gakpo players and isn't that where those Sancho and rashford fellas play.
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This is where I disagree. I don’t think we can afford to put anything up front
 
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