We seem be torn between having a limited hard worker in there, like Fred, and a ball playing playmaker like Eriksen who is much weaker at the ugly stuff.
There has to be some mid solution.
There has to be some mid solution.
How many times will we need to get thrashed to realise Eriksen is not a CM?
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Eriksen was a freeby additon to cover last season's midfield, which I think worked out OK even taken into consideration the amount of games he missed. Casemiro was unbdoubtedly bought with a longer playing playing expectation in mind (And I certainly haven't given up on him yet).
ETH brought in Mount as the new, younger signing in replacement, but he has been fighting for space in the treatment room instead of bedding into to his new team and structures. We also now have Amrabat into the mix. Let's at least get them all fit, and have Eriksen impacting off the bench, to see how things work out.
The only caveat of course, is that Mount was seriously underwhelming in his cameos to date, which does worry the hell out of me.
ETH brought in Mount as the new, younger signing in replacement, but he has been fighting for space in the treatment room instead of bedding into to his new team and structures. We also now have Amrabat into the mix. Let's at least get them all fit, and have Eriksen impacting off the bench, to see how things work out.
The only caveat of course, is that Mount was seriously underwhelming in his cameos to date, which does worry the hell out of me.
Mount is not a replacement for Eriksen. They are very different players. Maddison was available for £40m and would have been a huge upgrade. Our recruitment is pathetic
Mount/Amrabat would likely be ahead of him but obviously they’re injured.
I didn't mean a straight replacement for Eriksen, moreso fresher legs in midfield. But yes, I agree regarding Maddison. I never previously took to him as a personality, but for £40m he'd have almost transformed us. Sigh.
Revisionism is so nice. Everyone called Maddison overrated and shite when he was at Leicester.
That was the same goal
You didn't watch the game then.
Our 3 goals don't count, presumably? The dodgy penalty was perfectly fine with you, was it?
He's surprisingly good considering he's an aging 10 playing in the wrong position alongside another aging not very mobile mid and a 10 who gives the ball away all the time. Works fine at home against lesser teams. Problem is when we face a decent midfield. I have no idea what Ten Haag expects to happen. Casemiro/Eriksen/Bruno is not going to win against Goretska/Kimmich/Musiala. Injuries are a factor but even with everyone fit where does our midfield rank against the top teams? Miles off.
Not everyone, I thought he was the 2nd or 3rd best no.10 in the league over the last 2 years.
I think even ETH realized he's not a midfielder by now, although I am not sure if Mount is really his "replacement".
Everything we do with midfielders just goes wrong at the minute. All hopes are on the 3 guys not available now.
I also think we shouldn't have sold Fred as he was the perfect squad player for this team (with Casemiro and Bruno playing first fiddle).
Everything we do with midfielders just goes wrong at the minute. All hopes are on the 3 guys not available now.
I also think we shouldn't have sold Fred as he was the perfect squad player for this team (with Casemiro and Bruno playing first fiddle).
He really stood out last season when Leicester were crumbling - I wasn't a fan previously but I was impressed last season and he proved to me that he was actually the real deal and I was wrong. The other issue was around his attitude and behaviour away from the pitch.
I doubt he was anyone's first choice, but when we were told we were looking to sign Mount then it was questioned as to why you would choose him over Maddison.
ETH knows full well Eriksen isn't a "CM" and isn't comfortable in this system, that's why we've bought Amrabat (unavailable) and Mount (injured).
When those two are fit, both will be ahead of Eriksen. I assume Eriksen will become a 30-minute impact player when we need a goal.
When those two are fit, both will be ahead of Eriksen. I assume Eriksen will become a 30-minute impact player when we need a goal.
"How many more times..."
How many more times do we need to play until Mount and Amrabat aren't injured?
How many more times do we need to play until Mount and Amrabat aren't injured?
I think the treatment that some fans are giving Eriksen is really unfair. He is a centre midfielder, but he's not an up-and-down, box-to-box centre midfielder. Look at Odegard at Arsenal, very similar.. Odegard has more energy, naturally, and is surrounded by players with energy, and a clear way of playing. I'm not saying Eriksen is the player he was, of course, but he is still a v good footballer. You can see why he was so effective at Brentford - why? Because that team is built on speed, power, commitment and a clear playing style. Look at how athletic that team is.
Now look at us and make the comparison.
So I just feell we need to show the guy a little more respect. I neither want or expect Ericksen to be some box-to-box midfielder. No way.
Now look at us and make the comparison.
So I just feell we need to show the guy a little more respect. I neither want or expect Ericksen to be some box-to-box midfielder. No way.
Hopefully that is Amrabat.
He was at his best at Inter, Ajax and Spurs when he was playing as a 10. He had legs around him then and wasnt being asked to do so much defensive work.
I feel like you are struggling to follow the conversation, as said before you cannot determine how the game was played from the score.
Also if the ball had hit our opponents hand like it did Eriksen's then fans here would be screaming for a pen, and if we didn't get it it would be a conspiracy.
He is not a central midfielder, hes a 10 put in central midfield.
I wonder why you bother getting up in the morning, you obviously hate your life.
I think the general sentiment at the time was that Mount’s off the ball game was considerably better than Maddison, with our boy having a far superior work rate.
Please, please don't start that nonsense with me ok. Who plays 10 for France? Mbappe, an attacking forward; Who plays 10 for Arsenal? Nobody (well Smith-Rowe); Who plays 10 for Citeh? Jack bloomin' Grealish. Salah plays 10 for Egypt but 11 for Liverpool.
Ericksen does not and never has played as an attacker. He's a central midfielder, who pushes forward.
And btw, who plays No 10 for Real Madrid. Luka Modric. I suppose he's also not a central midfielder.
Kobbie Mainoo will be his successor got high hopes for lad when he gets back from injury
What?
I've been praising him for years. Even back when he was at Norwich. The problem was, like with Grealish, he hadn't played at the top level so people wrote him off compared to Donny/Sancho/Mount who all had.
Maddison would have been competing with Bruno. He is an attacking midfielder, making it a waste on a restricted budget.
Do you mean wearing the number 10 jersey or playing attacking mid?
Yet he would rather play Eriksen than give a young player like Hannibal a go.
Casemiro and Eriksen were never going to be able to cope with Musiala running at them.
Same for the Brighton game. Would rather play a 442 diamond, which we have never played before, than simply trust Pallestri or Garnacho to play on the right.
He doesnt seem to trust young players.
Sometimes when you see our recruitments you can't help but feel are these guys some sort oppo fans hell bent of destroying the club from within slowly? Because you can't be this pathetic time and time again even if you tried. There has to be some kinda mechanisms or professional panels who sits down daily and thinking how to destroy the club and gets things done accordingly. Nothing else explains all this.
He is a replacement. We saw it first two games of the league.
Every under-crisis manager after fergie refuse to play the youngster even though the fans, staff and himself know which veterans are the problem. Only LvG had the gut to play the youngsters in his first season when he is under crisis during the mid season and eventually getting top 4 by the end.
Eriksen is goat in his prime but he is a AM NOT CM! Starting from Tottenham he keep losing his man in the middle of the park and eventually being conceded. we can not ask a player with pacemaker to play weeks in week out and track every single ball back.
We were never going to sign Maddison. He is a top player, but we dont need another Bruno.
Mount is far more dynamic. If he gets back to his Chelsea 19/20/21 form, he will be one of our best players and he will be able to slot into a number of possitions.
I completely disagree. I've never rated Mount. He can play in all the positions he wants but it doesn't matter if he's rubbish in them all.
Maddison isn't another Bruno. Not only is he better, he can play deeper because he's press resistant. Something Bruno isn't. Same with Mount.
He is clearly not "rubbish".
Ten Hag was never going to sign Madison and play him in the same team as Bruno. It is such a mute point.
Well, if he continues with it, he will be fired. You cant keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.
Agree. Eriksen is getting ran all over. He doesn't have the legs to play the position he is being asked to play.
He wasn't relied on to perform defensive work at Spurs, Ajax and Inter, so why does ETH expect him to have the ability to do it now, at 31?
Casemiro needs support, but not from someone even slower than him.
To each their own. I've been saying Mount is rubbish for many, many years. It was bad enough seeing Southgate pick him over Grealish and Maddison.
I didn't think ten Hag would do that but, then again, I didn't think he'd do that with Mount either. Maddison has the attributes that, one, we're in dire need of, and, two, that would allow him to perform said role at least. Mount does not.
Why would we persist with Eriksen when Mejbri is available. Even if Mejbri is not good enough to create anything or score etc, just the fact that the opposition players won't run around him as if he isn't there should make a huuuuge difference no?
"Play the youngsters" is not a smart take if the youngsters aren't good enough. Hannibal didn't stand out at all in the championship last season. Playing him in a big game would be a horrible idea. He's nowhere near ready for PL football.