MackRobinson
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Two seasons tops. Premier League is too competitive, City have too much money, and Liverpool will lose some of their key players.
There’s two things for me, firstly I think Klopp asks a lot of them mentally as well as physically and at some point there will be some fatigue.
Secondly, when they’ve achieved a level of success, they will expect to be rewarded accordingly, especially when the Real Madrid’s and PSG’s of this world are making counter offers. How they deal with that will be interesting, I’m not sure they can afford £200k per week across the board and they’ve got a good number of players who will be offered that if they move elsewhere.
It's impossible to say. 12 months ago we were told city would dominate English football for a decade. Guardiola was a god. English football should be grateful to him for coming. Every six year old that couldn't tie his boots was being moulded every time pep picked his nose.
I wouldn't be surprised if in 2-3 years the entire side has fallen apart and been rebuilt poorly. Conversations about dominance should only begin after 2-3 titles and even then should be tentative
The last time I saw something was City in 2 previous seasons. In fact, they were even better. If even they can't get the result 3 years in a row, I doubt that Liverpool would. There's a limit on every manager's reign, and both of Klopp's previous projects ended up as failures (I'm not saying that his career was a failure though, the very opposite, just clarifying); he's going to exhaust that team sometime soon, despite the relatively young age of the squad. I also don't see a lot of room to grow for that team to be honest, as pretty much every player that they have plays at or even slightly beyond their personal best.The last time I saw something like this was the Chelsea team under Jose from 2004-2006. They looked simply imperious.
Klopp capitulated at Dortmund way before his contract is due to expire at Pool, didn't he? His players couldn't handle the rigorous regime anymore, although Liverpool won't have to deal with clubs poaching their players like Dortmund did, they will however have to revise their wage structure to keep a lot of their current players. They're also benefiting from arguably the weakest PL in years. They're the only team out of the "big six" who haven't gotten drastically worse.
Anyway, no manager can dominate the PL anymore like Wenger and SAF did. Pep is the modern master of winning league's and even City fell off a cliff after two wins on the bounce. It's not unrealistic to think someone else will win it next year, it just won't be us, that's for sure.
I also went with the Merriam-Webster's definition.Edit: By 'dominate' I assume that means challenge strongly for the league + CL, not necessarily win them.
The delusion is strong with this one.All depends how long VAR/Refs/Media will want them at the top.
He's already added Minamino (although he's 25) and we're linked with the likes of Havertz, Werner, Tonali, even Sancho. Not saying we'll get any of those players but the fact we're apparently looking at young players combined with the fact that he recently signed an extension shows to me that he wants to be part of the 'rebuild' and leave us in a good state. I think we'll definitely add a young striker next summer and a big-name winger if Salah or Mane leaves (can't see that happening though).How ruthless is Klopp at breaking a side up he’s built and then creating a new side?
He's already added Minamino (although he's 25) and we're linked with the likes of Havertz, Werner, Tonali, even Sancho.
The delusion is strong with this one.
IMO the dominance will last between next Tuesday and the next decade.
Sancho is on £190k so I don't think he will join us as we'd never offer him more than what our top players are earning right now.Havertz, Werner and Sancho will also be looked at other clubs, will Liverpool pay the wages other clubs will?
For Instance, Salah and VVD are on 200k a week, and sancho will want for example 220k, will that unsettle Mane, bobby and the like?
Reminds me of a similar thread from 2015. How long will Chelsea dominate the league after Jose's return. I'm sure something similar was said for City.
Can see them dropping off next year. They've been able to play almost with the same starting xi game after game, and have rode their luck at times. Everything is clicking this season.
Sancho is on £190k so I don't think he will join us as we'd never offer him more than what our top players are earning right now.
If they'd want to join us, it's because of Klopp and because they wanna be part of a great team with a great chance at winning the highest trophies. If Sancho prioritizes money over that, we can't fault him for that but he won't come to Liverpool in that case, no.
Two seasons tops. Premier League is too competitive, City have too much money, and Liverpool will lose some of their key players.
So... how long will it last? I need the nightmare to end soon.
It's what you'd expect from a big team but how long does this trend need to continue before we can assume that it will not necessarily be the case? Arsenal and United, you'd think they're at their lowest point right now and can only improve and be better next year but arguably you've gone backwards since Mourinho left - I don't think it's a given that you'll be stronger at the beginning of next season than you are now, especially if Solskjaer remains in charge...What we will see for sure, is a renewed challenge from other teams, they'll get stronger, and overhaul Liverpool eventually that way.
Higher wages is the only reason, which Liverpool may not match. But I agree, I don't see them leaving any time soon.Why will they?
Why would Mane or Salah move, when they're playing for Euro and league winners? It'd be madness to leave a system that suits them so much.
No idea, I expected the greatest ever team Man City to have another great season in them, and look at what they've mustered this term. Liverpool haven't been great to watch this season but have been machine like in their grit and determination to get over the line every single game, it's been logic defying in many ways. I'd like to think next season will be different, I don't see how they can keep going like this without some changes here and there?
All I know is in this league every time in the last few years when a period of dominance has been predicted, it's flopped, so we'll see. You'd think the rest of the chasing pack can't be this shite next year.
Yeah, definitely. I didn't realize he was on £190k already, thought it'd be more like £80-100k at DortmundI understand the feeling in respects to a player will want to join to be part of a team, but we have seen it with players joining PSG, City, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca in the past where they pay the big wages as well as a chance to win trophies.
As you say Sanchi is already on 190k so 220k would be minimum with the likes of Chelsea, United circling the wages will be driven up too.
It's what you'd expect from a big team but how long does this trend need to continue before we can assume that it will not necessarily be the case? Arsenal and United, you'd think they're at their lowest point right now and can only improve and be better next year but arguably you've gone backwards since Mourinho left - I don't think it's a given that you'll be stronger at the beginning of next season than you are now, especially if Solskjaer remains in charge...