How good was Ronaldo when he was at Juventus?

[Iker Quesadillas]

Players like Dybala seemed to suffer after Cristiano arrived, he went from 22 goals to failing to score more than 5 goals in two of those seasons.

He hasn't come close to scoring 22 goals since he's stopped playing with Cristiano Ronaldo, either.

 

[Gehrman]

Was it a case of Ronaldo wanting to leave Real and go somewhere else or was it more of Real wanting to sell as they could see his decline? I remember a story that he did not get the contract renewal which he wanted and really left him in frustration

The point about Juve buying him to get one CL title at least was a good one but they got nowhere near that when he was there. They’ll always have the memories of him scoring that brilliant hat trick against Atletico though

He wanted a new contract after the 3 peat, which would include a payrise and state his importance in the future of team. Perez was looking to the future(chasing Neymar) and unwilling to pay him what he wanted and assure his status as a keyplayer. Juventus was willing to do that, so he went there which didnt seem like a bad decision at the time.

 

[AdamColeBebe]

I genuinely forgot he even played there until now

 

[Gehrman]

He’s 14th in their all time top scorer list and only played 3 years. I’d say he was pretty good

Its not bad at all. But Seria A when Ronaldo played their was nothing compared to Seria A in its pomp in the 80´s and 90´s.

In the 2018/2019 season the topscorers were
Fabio Qargliarella(36 years of age) - 26 goals for Sampordia
Duvan Zapeta - 23 goals for Atlanta
Krzstof Piatek 22 goals for Genoa/Milan
Christiano Ronaldo(33/34 years of age) 21 goals for Juventus.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

They finished 4th with him in their last season and things had began to go sour. They also went out of the UCL earlier than expected and to weaker opposition every season he was there.

You’re kinda hopping over the point though as they continued to get shitter even after he left, once not even qualifying for the CL.

So he clearly wasn’t the issue, the entire rebuild that started with Ronaldo, Cancelo, Bonucci, then continued with De Ligt, Kulusevski, Danilo, Romero, Melo, Morata was a huge failure. They spent over 400m after Ronaldo and got worse, and after he left they got worse still.

To pin their decline on Ronaldo is ridiculous really, especially when they signed 9 other first team players in his time there.

 

[Spaghetti Bolognese]

Its not bad at all. But Seria A when Ronaldo played their was nothing compared to Seria A in its pomp in the 80´s and 90´s.

In the 2018/2019 season the topscorers were
Fabio Qargliarella(36 years of age) - 26 goals for Sampordia
Duvan Zapeta - 23 goals for Atlanta
Krzstof Piatek 22 goals for Genoa/Milan
Christiano Ronaldo(33/34 years of age) 21 goals for Juventus.

You choose specific / half stats to downplay Ronaldo, so let's look at the bigger picture from those three seasons:

Quagliarella 51goals
Zapeta 67 goals
Piatek 47 (including 1 year in the bundesliga) goals
Ronaldo 101 goals

It ended pretty sourly at United, but we shouldn't let that re-write the history of how good he was.

 

[Gehrman]

You choose specific / half stats to downplay Ronaldo, so let's look at the bigger picture from those three seasons:

Quagliarella 51goals
Zapeta 67 goals
Piatek 47 (including 1 year in the bundesliga) goals
Ronaldo 101 goals

It ended pretty sourly at United, but we shouldn't let that re-write the history of how good he was.

It was to highlight the discrepancy in quality in Seria A during Ronnie's stint and Seria in its greatest eras where you had Batistuta, Ronaldo Nazario, Del Piero, Inzaghi, Crespo, Van Basten Shevchenko, Totti etc or in 80's with high scoring midfielders like Maradona, Platini, Baggio.

Of course Ronnie is better than all of those who scored more than him in his 1st year but Seria A used to be the true superleague of Europe for 2 decades and that's long gone.

 

[CoopersDream]

You’re kinda hopping over the point though as they continued to get shitter even after he left, once not even qualifying for the CL.

So he clearly wasn’t the issue, the entire rebuild that started with Ronaldo, Cancelo, Bonucci, then continued with De Ligt, Kulusevski, Danilo, Romero, Melo, Morata was a huge failure. They spent over 400m after Ronaldo and got worse, and after he left they got worse still.

To pin their decline on Ronaldo is ridiculous really, especially when they signed 9 other first team players in his time there.

They clearly didn't spend well and the Ronaldo transfer is probably the worst. The spunked 117m on him and another 100m in salaries (seems to even been well over 150m in gross salary). He might not have been the (only) problem, but certainly a problem.

 

[Fobal]

He wasn't Tevez for them, that in this Forum he's not World Class.

PD: jokes aside he did his job (scoring tons of goals, assists, some trully great ones).
CLs are a fickle bunch, when it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen and sometimes you became Kane.
Of course at that stage of his carreer he wasn't a player that brought an overall presence on the entire field, but upfront, even if demanding, he delivered.
He won Titles, he scored tons, he even looked like being more down to earth and more focus in his leadership.

 

[Danny]

The Atletico CL game stick out.

Real Madrid are excellent sellers. They know when a player is within 12 months from not being World Class any more. So the buying club is still signing a World Class player (as we did with Casemiro) but Madrid get a huge fee within about a year of the player falling off a cliff

I think Ronaldo would have been considered a success if he'd have returned to United straight from Madrid and then left us before what would end up being his final 6 months here.

Madrid are only excellent sellers because they know full well they can just directly replace someone sold pretty much straight away, or have already bought beforehand. A bit like City now and it's mainly due to finances, and they also know they are a very attractive club to join for any player.

They are really really good at judging when a player is starting to decline though, and aren't afraid to upset their fans too. Think way back to Fergie letting Hughes and Kanchelskis leave- was almost a crime at the time but the club were right.

 

[giorno]

Part of the reason Juventus spent all that money on him was also to raise their brand and improve their financial position long term. Which was actually working, and then Covid happened

 

[Iker Quesadillas]

Madrid are only excellent sellers because they know full well they can just directly replace someone sold pretty much straight away, or have already bought beforehand. A bit like City now and it's mainly due to finances, and they also know they are a very attractive club to join for any player.

They are really really good at judging when a player is starting to decline though, and aren't afraid to upset their fans too. Think way back to Fergie letting Hughes and Kanchelskis leave- was almost a crime at the time but the club were right.

The Ronaldo sale was questionable IMO, Real Madrid were very bad the season after he was sold, and poor in attack for years afterward.

You could argue that it led to the purchase of Hazard, which was one of the biggest flops in the club's history too.

 

[Scottynaldinho]

Starting from his last season at Madrid, he began to have a bad first half every season which continued in Italy. He had that late-season surge to statpad as much as he can to reach a respectable number.

 

[Demyanenko_square_jaw]

I remember him scoring a huge amount of penalties in one his seasons there.