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The Caf's Ezza.
I'll remember the name for that goal he scored against us in Champions league final.
But was he actually any good?
But was he actually any good?
I agree, I especially enjoyed the ending of a specific game in which he scored an early free kick.I think he was great, loved his free-kicks and direct corner kicks![]()
I've always thought the same thing. One of my first memories as a United fan. Always wondered how good him and Mehmet Scholl wereI'll remember the name for that goal he scored against us in Champions league final.
But was he actually any good?
Scholl was very good.I've always thought the same thing. One of my first memories as a United fan. Always wondered how good him and Mehmet Scholl were
Basler, Andreas Moller, Mehmet Scholl, Ballack, Toni Kroos, Gotze, Ozil, and these days Wirtz and Musiala.
German football had produced some wonderful attacking midfielders / no.10’s.
I don’t remember if Lars Ricken was more of a wide player but he probably fits the bill as well.
I agree, I especially enjoyed the ending of a specific game in which he scored an early free kick.
I’d add Thomas Hassler and Effenberg to that list although the later did move backwards into central midfield more.Basler, Andreas Moller, Mehmet Scholl, Ballack, Toni Kroos, Gotze, Ozil, and these days Wirtz and Musiala.
German football had produced some wonderful attacking midfielders / no.10’s.
I don’t remember if Lars Ricken was more of a wide player but he probably fits the bill as well.
I agree, I especially enjoyed the ending of a specific game in which he scored an early free kick.
Jancker had his uses, though they were few.Scholl was very good.
The odd one out of that Bayern side, for me at least, was Jancker.
Who wasn't?! Legendary playerworse than Thomas Hassler, but better than Karimi.
I remember Effenberg as a central midfielder, I actually didn’t know he played further up at some point.Id
I’d add Thomas Hassler and Effenberg to that list although the later did move backwards into central midfield more.
That chap was a clown. No idea how he played at such a high level, for Germany too.Scholl was very good.
The odd one out of that Bayern side, for me at least, was Jancker.
He had/still has the brains of a squirrel, drinking and smoking habits to rival Gascoigne, and hated to run or work on his fitness. Accordignly, his pro career ended after a drunken bar brawl.I'll remember the name for that goal he scored against us in Champions league final.
But was he actually any good?
If I remember correctly he played 10 for Fiorentina in Serie A. It could be more the tactics at the time but he definitely supported the number 9.I remember Effenberg as a central midfielder, I actually didn’t know he played further up at some point.
Interesting but makes sense, Kroos and Ballack both moved further back from more attacking roles.
He had/still has the brains of a squirrel, drinking and smoking habits to rival Gascoigne, and hated to run or work on his fitness. Accordignly, his pro career ended after a drunken bar brawl.
He also was possibly one of the best natural talents the german football has ever seen. I don't know how many direct freekicks and corners (3 in his first Werder Bremen season) he scored in his career...
Effenberg was also the best of the lot.Id
I’d add Thomas Hassler and Effenberg to that list although the later did move backwards into central midfield more.
Yeah, that's how i remember him being considered on the early football message boards back then by Bayern fans : a great talent, but also a bit of an idiot without much dedication. Didn't Beckenbauer say he could have been one of the greatest German players if he'd possessed a work ethic to match his skill?.
I noticed for the Werder Bremen 94/95 season he scored 20 goals (only one penalty) and had 12 assists in 33 league games. That must be really high up as far as single-season scoring/ goal +assist ratio accomplishments for non-forwards goes.
Add Thomas Berthold to that elusive list.Can't really say too much about Basler the player but I can confirm that he's an idiot. In terms of stupidity, he's second only to Thorsten Legat amongst German ex-footballers, probably. He has this "uncle gets drunk on family party and rages about Greta Thunberg" energy.
From an era of angry midfielders with a rocket shot. Top class.Effenberg was also the best of
Jancker? Underrated player. 48 in 143 for Bayern ain't that shabby because it was that era when scoring ~ 20 a year pretty much guaranteed the Bundesliga "golden cannon" trophy. Not that Germany was blessed with world class strikers in these days - Max, Preetz, even Basler won that. But then, Yeboah won it with 18, Amoroso too.That chap was a clown. No idea how he played at such a high level, for Germany too.
And indeed scored the openerShort update:
he is part of the ZDF "FC Hollywood" miniseries.
He spent the night before the 1999 final at the hotel bar, drinking and smoking. In ihis own words, Hoeneß found him there. "Mario, you're way past curfew" - i know boss, i'll just finish my beer". But the beer was tasty, so i had another one, and another. Then, very late, Hitzfeld found me. "Mario, you're up drinking and smoking, you know that means you wont play tomorrow". So i figured what the hell, if i don't play, i can keep drinking. which i did, until 3:30am."
He still played that match...
oh man that gives me flashbacks to my childhood and being mario and having to rescue the princess peaches from basler’s castle. apparently in the newer mario games there is a baby basler too, but i stopped playing long before then.